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Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:53 pm
I agree with Naylor, he is shocking.
Hudson has been mostly solid all season, and was today tbf.
Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:56 pm
jbirdrules wrote:I agree with Naylor, he is shocking.
Hudson has been mostly solid all season, and was today tbf.
I'd agree that we may as well play with 10 men than play with 11 and Naylor be one of them.
As for Hudson, I'm not a fan of his so would not say solid for most of the season, but looked ok since the Jacks game, and i thought he was close to being our best player today - not much competition there though was there??
Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:19 pm
Hudson is way too dodgy.
Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:19 pm
Hudson does put in some good blocks but also has been responsible for a number of soft goals, today let Parkin dominate the wall and at QPR last week.
Naylor bottles too many tackles, but is ok with crosses into the box.
All centre backs today were far too slow against porky Parkin.
Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:24 pm
HUDSON is shit we spent over a million on him! we makes shocking decisions and got shit comms 4 a guy we have had as captin! GET GERRARD BACK WITH RIGGOT CB. not saying that sorts it but better than hudson and gypes! im on about season not 2day before someone says blake
Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:28 pm
Hadson does make some good tackles but the mistakes he makes are going to cost us, His passing is absolutly shocking. Naylor also needs to be dropped. I'd play Darcy out wide insted of Lee.
This defence is one of the shittest we have had for many years.
Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:07 pm
both shit end of
Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:07 pm
How can you blame Hudson for today? Why don't you blame our midfield and strikeforce for not being able too put away any chances today? Over 20 shots on goal, only one went in
Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:12 pm
LAUREL AND HARDY
Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:28 pm
hudson has been our best defender this season (nothing to shout about i know)
he throws he body at everything, makes crucial interceptions, and crucial blocks.
yes he does the odd mistake but show me a championship defender who dosn't?
Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:03 pm
We all know Naylor is shocking.
Regarding Hudson, can anyone explain why Darcy was marking Parkin before he went off injured? Parkin was physcially dominating Darcy obviously. Also, when Gabor came on, he was marking Parkin and had to deal with all the high arial balls, a lot of these arial balls Hudson should have been dealing with. Going back to Leicester in the playoffs, Darcy was marking Steve Howard when Hudson should have been. It's clear that Hudson doesn't like marking a physical target man who will physically dominate him, so he passes his centre back partner on to mark him instead. If Kris Boyd starts for Boro next week, you watch Hudson, he will go nowhere near him unless he has to.
Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:05 pm
Someone around me was saying that Hudson is going to Celtic in January, and Loovens is coming here.
Sorry if it's been mentioned on here already.
Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:06 pm
Spaceman wrote:How can you blame Hudson for today? Why don't you blame our midfield and strikeforce for not being able too put away any chances today? Over 20 shots on goal, only one went in
I've mentioned the 25 efforts a few times yet people want to pick at other things.
Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:11 pm
PtB wrote:Spaceman wrote:How can you blame Hudson for today? Why don't you blame our midfield and strikeforce for not being able too put away any chances today? Over 20 shots on goal, only one went in
I've mentioned the 25 efforts a few times yet people want to pick at other things.
It's not picking at other things, at the end of the day we cannot expect our attack to score 3 or 4 games every game to make sure we win. Today our attack had an off day, and when that happens, the defense have to do their job. But the defense continually lets us down.
Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:02 pm
I thought Naylor was very poor but I thought Hudson had a decent game it's just many people don't rate him and never mind how he plays they are not going to change their opinion. Personally i thinh he's a decent Championship Centre Half but he needs someone with a bit of pace alongside him.
Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:05 pm
They are totally embarassing and make no contribution to the game whatsoever, it needs to be sorted or we will be outside of the play offs come February!
Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:27 pm
jbirdrules wrote:I agree with Naylor, he is shocking.
Hudson has been mostly solid all season, and was today tbf.
hudson has been shit all season, the problem we got is, people pass him 20 times , but people talk about the 5 headers he defended so good?
Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:54 pm
Here we go again.
I dread to think what the response would be on here if Hudson actually had a BAD game.
First I'll address the points.
its a fair shout to say that Parkin was jumping against Blake a few times to start, but as it was it came to nothing. After Gyepes came on Parkin didnt get very much joy. Hudson took the ball off him plenty of times.
Someone blamed him for the free kick going in. Watch it again on sky, stop it and see what happens. Parkin's intervention had no effect, the shot was actually wide of the area he was in, the ball actually deflected off Burke's foot, as he jumped - why I dont know, it was just like Gomes' goal for the Jacks against us.
As for his distribution, he's a centre half for fucks sake. When all the players charge forward then what choice has he got but to hit it long, where is the midfielder coming short , or the wide men getting to the touchline for the short balls - no-one feckin wants the ball !!
Week after week he plays at least average, mostly well and still there are some who refuse to give him any credit.
Now, what did go wrong... well for a start from the back, yes naylor was poor again, although fair play to him, he didnt hide and still tried going forward. McNaughton did well in my eyes and really tried to get attacks going. Marshall had virtually nothing to do, but why oh why doestn he talk tot he full backs and THROW the ball out instead of long kicks to our mini strikers. Naylor and Kev also have to take responsibility here.
Whittingham had a go, and that was a great cross for the goal, but doesnt do enough.
Burke similar, and his final ball just wasnt good enough.
Bothroyd - well i told you before the game someone's hamstring will go. Their warm ps need sorting - its pathetic that every cold game a hamstring goes.
Mcphail - a shadow of his former self. An in-form mcPhail would have run the show, but for most of it he had no effect.
Oli, better than last couple of games, but still not the imposing plaer we took in.
Bellamy - sorry but his finishing has always been poor. He'll score a great goal, but will need 6 or 7 chances to score. Stick him back on the wing and START Chopra.
Chopra, gave some impetus when he came on and should start.
Keogh - worked really hard, but was bossed in the air. Scored and did a decent job.
Overall no width and everyone looking for the long ball. Get Bellamy on the left and tell him to stay wide, spread the game. Tell the keeper and full backs to collect it short and build. make one of the midfielders responsible for coming and taking the ball short off the centre halfs. do this and we'll start making spaces. We played well in patches beleive it or not, but it was all too tight.
Try looking at these things rather than scapegoating one or 2 players, especially ones who are actuall playing well !
Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:05 pm
hes not at the level o f player we want, loovens, johnson
Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:27 pm
Our midfield is at fault, never win the ball high up the field and thats why they always get at our back four.
Hudson will at least stand up and be counted. Give me him anyday over some of the cowards in a blue shirt today.
Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:19 am
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:PtB wrote:Spaceman wrote:How can you blame Hudson for today? Why don't you blame our midfield and strikeforce for not being able too put away any chances today? Over 20 shots on goal, only one went in
I've mentioned the 25 efforts a few times yet people want to pick at other things.
It's not picking at other things, at the end of the day we cannot expect our attack to score 3 or 4 games every game to make sure we win. Today our attack had an off day, and when that happens, the defense have to do their job. But the defense continually lets us down.
An off day? We've scored 1 goal in our last 3 home games
Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:29 am
Lawnmower wrote:Here we go again.
I dread to think what the response would be on here if Hudson actually had a BAD game.
First I'll address the points.
its a fair shout to say that Parkin was jumping against Blake a few times to start, but as it was it came to nothing. After Gyepes came on Parkin didnt get very much joy. Hudson took the ball off him plenty of times.
Someone blamed him for the free kick going in. Watch it again on sky, stop it and see what happens. Parkin's intervention had no effect, the shot was actually wide of the area he was in, the ball actually deflected off Burke's foot, as he jumped - why I dont know, it was just like Gomes' goal for the Jacks against us.
As for his distribution, he's a centre half for fucks sake. When all the players charge forward then what choice has he got but to hit it long, where is the midfielder coming short , or the wide men getting to the touchline for the short balls - no-one feckin wants the ball !!
Week after week he plays at least average, mostly well and still there are some who refuse to give him any credit.
Now, what did go wrong... well for a start from the back, yes naylor was poor again, although fair play to him, he didnt hide and still tried going forward. McNaughton did well in my eyes and really tried to get attacks going. Marshall had virtually nothing to do, but why oh why doestn he talk tot he full backs and THROW the ball out instead of long kicks to our mini strikers. Naylor and Kev also have to take responsibility here.
Whittingham had a go, and that was a great cross for the goal, but doesnt do enough.
Burke similar, and his final ball just wasnt good enough.
Bothroyd - well i told you before the game someone's hamstring will go. Their warm ps need sorting - its pathetic that every cold game a hamstring goes.
Im not talking bout todays peformance.
As a whole he has been poor.
and the goal form the freekick well that was just a bit of luck on Northends behalf!
Mcphail - a shadow of his former self. An in-form mcPhail would have run the show, but for most of it he had no effect.
Oli, better than last couple of games, but still not the imposing plaer we took in.
Bellamy - sorry but his finishing has always been poor. He'll score a great goal, but will need 6 or 7 chances to score. Stick him back on the wing and START Chopra.
Chopra, gave some impetus when he came on and should start.
Keogh - worked really hard, but was bossed in the air. Scored and did a decent job.
Overall no width and everyone looking for the long ball. Get Bellamy on the left and tell him to stay wide, spread the game. Tell the keeper and full backs to collect it short and build. make one of the midfielders responsible for coming and taking the ball short off the centre halfs. do this and we'll start making spaces. We played well in patches beleive it or not, but it was all too tight.
Try looking at these things rather than scapegoating one or 2 players, especially ones who are actuall playing well !
Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:46 am
your opininon
Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:20 am
It's not picking at other things, at the end of the day we cannot expect our attack to score 3 or 4 games every game to make sure we win. Today our attack had an off day, and when that happens, the defense have to do their job. But the defense continually lets us down.
An off day? We've scored 1 goal in our last 3 home games
You are of course correct, and that's because the opposition know that if they defend and stop us scoring, it's guaranteed our defense are going to slip up. There is no problem with our fire power, we scored 4 at Scunthorpe recently and we will always score goals. When was the last time we kept a clean sheet? Hull at home? That's months ago if that's the case!
Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:32 am
Spaceman wrote:How can you blame Hudson for today? Why don't you blame our midfield and strikeforce for not being able too put away any chances today? Over 20 shots on goal, only one went in
This.
Hudson, to be fair to the boy, hasn't done much wrong at all this season if you look at our games with a clear head.
He's not the quickest and does have a poor pass, but that's exactly the same as Roger Johnson and he was worshipped (though funnily enough not all the time he was here).
I've found myself saying "Well done, good tackle/header/block Hudson" more than once a game in most games this season.
Frankly, he's our second best defender. It's not hard mind.
Riggott doesn't exist. That much is fact.
Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:35 am
If you buy a horse from a trainer who well frankly hasnt won f**k all dont expect it to do anything bottom line is hudson cost over 1million pounds half of which went to some to-bit agency which got involved when the king of spin riddler was here to broker the deal which he had his fingers in funny enough end of the day he played 95% of charlton's games the year they went down they had the worst defence in the FOUR english professional leagues if that does not tell anyone anything about a captain of that team back then i give up,him or gerrard was never going to cover the 9million pound sell on gap from loovens/johnson considering where donkey come from and gerrard (walsaw) team just above relegation zone every year both cost around 1.4million in total so they say so i guess the other 7.6million went on something else bar that other clown from motherwell quinn who we didnt pay for in full i may add.Jesus thats another 400-500k worth of garbage it makes me wonder who watches these players before we get them.As for naylor well i wonder why guy was holding out in the summer pretending that other clubs was intrested yet sugned for us on the same terms 6weeks later hes past it anyone can see that bar his hoofball in to the stands he can not do anything else.Hes abit like kennedy but worse
Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:28 am
Yes Hudson, Naylor and Gyepes all carthorses but ask yourself, who signed them? who coaches them? who is in charge of tactics? who motivates them from the dug out?
Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:41 am
Naylor I think can be good!
Hudson is piss poor
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