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Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:56 pm
Who have Passion for the Club they Manage, I Also Feel if the Players See This, Then it gets passed on.
Our Players Dont even Thank The Fans that Travel Away and Spend Fortunes,Today Once again Not one player walked over at the end, Bells,Heaton and Huds the Only 3 players to Applaud US

.When a Manager Tells His OWN PLAYERS f**k THE FANS YOU PLAY FOR ME, That was the last insult on Me as a Supporter from Dave Jones, I Already Never Rated Him as a Manager, But thats Why I Have Never Liked him Since and Cant Forgive him. But thats Prob Just Me.
I FELL IN LOVE WITH FOOTBALL BECAUSE OF THE PASSION IT USE TO HAVE, People like DJ are Killing it.
Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:03 pm
Its not just you, don't worry
Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:06 pm
Annis, Can you see us going on a run of say ten or twelve games unbeaten under Jones? We should of been way ahead in the table by now but our consistant inconsisitancy under Jones will not get us promotion, Watching him on the touchline is like watching a Tailors dummy, No Passion, No Tactics.
Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:21 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Who have Passion for the Club they Manage, I Also Feel if the Players See This, Then it gets passed on.
Our Players Dont even Thank The Fans that Travel Away and Spend Fortunes,Today Once again Not one player walked over at the end, Bells,Heaton and Huds the Only 3 players to Applaud US

.When a Manager Tells His OWN PLAYERS f**k THE FANS YOU PLAY FOR ME, That was the last insult on Me as a Supporter from Dave Jones, I Already Never Rated Him as a Manager, But thats Why I Have Never Liked him Since and Cant Forgive him. But thats Prob Just Me.
stayed behind last week and noticed all the forrest team came over at the end to applaude the fans,it feels that we are an inconvenience at best but most of the time we are a pain in the arse,
Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:23 pm
tylerdurdenisabluebird wrote:Its not just you, don't worry

I am Glad to hear.
Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:24 pm
Labby Doos wrote:Annis, Can you see us going on a run of say ten or twelve games unbeaten under Jones? We should of been way ahead in the table by now but our consistant inconsisitancy under Jones will not get us promotion, Watching him on the touchline is like watching a Tailors dummy, No Passion, No Tactics.
Thats what Really Really Worries Me about him.
Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:24 pm
krab wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Who have Passion for the Club they Manage, I Also Feel if the Players See This, Then it gets passed on.
Our Players Dont even Thank The Fans that Travel Away and Spend Fortunes,Today Once again Not one player walked over at the end, Bells,Heaton and Huds the Only 3 players to Applaud US

.When a Manager Tells His OWN PLAYERS f**k THE FANS YOU PLAY FOR ME, That was the last insult on Me as a Supporter from Dave Jones, I Already Never Rated Him as a Manager, But thats Why I Have Never Liked him Since and Cant Forgive him. But thats Prob Just Me.
stayed behind last week and noticed all the forrest team came over at the end to applaude the fans,it feels that we are an inconvenience at best but most of the time we are a pain in the arse,

Thats how they make us feel and its Sad.
Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:30 pm
At the end of the day guys, if we had a different manager like Sean O'Driscoll who knows how to play football we would be walking this league. We are 2nd ye ok, but the players we got we should be storming this league.
Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:31 pm
seanmogs wrote:At the end of the day guys, if we had a different manager like Sean O'Driscoll who knows how to play football we would be walking this league. We are 2nd ye ok, but the players we got we should be storming this league.
Correct They Should Be Storming The League, WE HAVE BY FAR THE BEST TEAM ON PAPER.
Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:36 pm
I used to rate Jones, and you could still make a strong argumentnthat he's the best manager we've ever had, but he is making an annoying habit of choking it up when we play against the bigger teams and good , tactically savvy managers.
Some would argue that it's not his fault,that it's our sub-standard centre backs. But who bought them? Spending all that dough on that idiot Hudson says it all.
Maybe Jones has taken us as far as he can?
Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:37 pm
We've a squad capable of 'doing a newcastle', yet we find ourselves on a very long journey home, with what seems no thanks from anyone.
Sorry if I'm going off topic, but I'm sure last Nov people were saying 'give jones till the end of the season'. We have a better squad this season. Enough is getting enough
Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:37 pm
Damned Yank wrote:I used to rate Jones, and you could still make a strong argumentnthat he's the best manager we've ever had, but he is making an annoying habit of choking it up when we play against the bigger teams and good , tactically savvy managers.
Some would argue that it's not his fault,that it's our sub-standard centre backs. But who bought them? Spending all that dough on that idiot Hudson says it all.
Maybe Jones has taken us as far as he can?
I Blame him as he Brought them All in and Picks the Team, Tactics etc Are All his.
Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:40 pm
He knows his job is safe he is one of few managers who can lose a few games and still have the backing if the owners and board, if he did go he also knows he can walk into the premier league whenever there is a vacancy, would he be so calm if he was underpressure from above
Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:47 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Damned Yank wrote:I used to rate Jones, and you could still make a strong argumentnthat he's the best manager we've ever had, but he is making an annoying habit of choking it up when we play against the bigger teams and good , tactically savvy managers.
Some would argue that it's not his fault,that it's our sub-standard centre backs. But who bought them? Spending all that dough on that idiot Hudson says it all.
Maybe Jones has taken us as far as he can?
I Blame him as he Brought them All in and Picks the Team, Tactics etc Are All his.
That's right bro, the team is entirely of his making. There is nowhere to hide and nowhere to point the finger.
Look at our fixtures over the next 8 weeks. Conceivably, Jones could be on thin ice come Jan.
Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:01 pm
Dave Jones said after Barnsley that we had such a great away support and it would be much bigger if we didn't have trouble in the past which has come to haunt us with tickets allocated. He does care about us it's just the players not caring.
Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:04 pm
CardiffCityFan1996 wrote:Dave Jones said after Barnsley that we had such a great away support and it would be much bigger if we didn't have trouble in the past which has come to haunt us with tickets allocated. He does care about us it's just the players not caring.
Then Why Tell the Players f**k the Fans You play for me ?
4 Different players have told me this and 3 of them played today.
Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:08 pm
Forever Blue wrote:CardiffCityFan1996 wrote:Dave Jones said after Barnsley that we had such a great away support and it would be much bigger if we didn't have trouble in the past which has come to haunt us with tickets allocated. He does care about us it's just the players not caring.
Then Why Tell the Players f**k the Fans You play for me ?
4 Different players have told me this and 3 of them played today.
There's a lack of harmony in the squad probably, if he has said that then it's a disgrace because we look up to Dave Jones like a saint. I've had facebook statuses saying Jones Out but people have called me an idiot and everything, if this is true then it's a big let down for the fans of the club. If we don't get maximum points in our next 5 games then I want a new manager pronto.
Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:33 pm
Annis get a grip mate we are 2nd in the league. if the ref wasnt a homer the blatent penalty on jay we woulda drawn 2.2.
Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:46 pm
dean wrote:Annis get a grip mate we are 2nd in the league. if the ref wasnt a homer the blatent penalty on jay we woulda drawn 2.2.

You make your Own Luck in Football, it evens out over a Season.
Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:50 pm
true m8 but just rem were we have come from
Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:52 pm
Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:57 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Damned Yank wrote:I used to rate Jones, and you could still make a strong argumentnthat he's the best manager we've ever had, but he is making an annoying habit of choking it up when we play against the bigger teams and good , tactically savvy managers.
Some would argue that it's not his fault,that it's our sub-standard centre backs. But who bought them? Spending all that dough on that idiot Hudson says it all.
Maybe Jones has taken us as far as he can?
I Blame him as he Brought them All in and Picks the Team, Tactics etc Are All his.
i agree, tactically clueless. why even consider putting drinkwater on the bench?
but a question for you annis, is terry burton just a yes man? surely he can see what we all can see why dosn't he say anything?
Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:01 pm
Woody CCFC wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Damned Yank wrote:I used to rate Jones, and you could still make a strong argumentnthat he's the best manager we've ever had, but he is making an annoying habit of choking it up when we play against the bigger teams and good , tactically savvy managers.
Some would argue that it's not his fault,that it's our sub-standard centre backs. But who bought them? Spending all that dough on that idiot Hudson says it all.
Maybe Jones has taken us as far as he can?
I Blame him as he Brought them All in and Picks the Team, Tactics etc Are All his.
i agree, tactically clueless. why even consider putting drinkwater on the bench?
but a question for you annis, is terry burton just a yes man? surely he can see what we all can see why dosn't he say anything?
I Know Terry Personally, Lovely man, Good Tactically, But DJ to strong for Terry, Terry is Soft at heart and Not Strong willed to stand up enough, he tried after the Swansea game, but got Buried by DJ.
Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:07 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Who have Passion for the Club they Manage, I Also Feel if the Players See This, Then it gets passed on.
Our Players Dont even Thank The Fans that Travel Away and Spend Fortunes,Today Once again Not one player walked over at the end, Bells,Heaton and Huds the Only 3 players to Applaud US

.When a Manager Tells His OWN PLAYERS f**k THE FANS YOU PLAY FOR ME, That was the last insult on Me as a Supporter from Dave Jones, I Already Never Rated Him as a Manager, But thats Why I Have Never Liked him Since and Cant Forgive him. But thats Prob Just Me.
I FELL IN LOVE WITH FOOTBALL BECAUSE OF THE PASSION IT USE TO HAVE, People like DJ are Killing it.
DJ needs to go NOW! He only understands the long ball tactic in a 4-4-2 (or occasionally 4-5-1) against teams that we should be dismantling. With the exception (IMO) of Hudson & Naylor , we should have a team capable of walking this league this season. NOw teams like Leicester and Forest have made good additions and will start to climb and challenge.
And to answer everybodys queston of who else, the i answer with ANYONE who isnt stubborn!!!
Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:10 pm
and replace him with who??????????
the only better wealer dealer is harry redknapp and do u relly think he,,lll leave spurs for us??????
Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:10 pm
Labby Doos wrote:Annis, Can you see us going on a run of say ten or twelve games unbeaten under Jones? We should of been way ahead in the table by now but our consistant inconsisitancy under Jones will not get us promotion, Watching him on the touchline is like watching a Tailors dummy, No Passion, No Tactics.
We had a run of 7 games this season with 6 wins and a draw.
That is the problem I think. When we are good we are very good but when bad shite.
Hardly ever inbetween.
Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:54 pm
dean wrote:Annis get a grip mate we are 2nd in the league. if the ref wasnt a homer the blatent penalty on jay we woulda drawn 2.2.

we are 2nd but what games have we played particuly well. i can think of about 4-5 maybe less were the players have played and gelled together and it has worked. the other times we have won we havent been very good but luckily the other team has been worse. ive been on the fence about dave jones yer he has done well for us but i think he has taken us as far as he can so now its time for a change before the transfer window so our new manager can get some players he would like. dave jones has no excuse for the players not performing if they are played out of position as its his tactics and he brought the players he wanted here. i would love a manager with passion here. And dave jones just isnt that manager. he cant motivate the team for the big and important games. the fa cup final the play off final the last 4-5 games of the season before last, the derby games, there is a long list of times we have lost because he plays the games down too much.
Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:38 am
Forever Blue wrote:Who have Passion for the Club they Manage, I Also Feel if the Players See This, Then it gets passed on.
Our Players Dont even Thank The Fans that Travel Away and Spend Fortunes,Today Once again Not one player walked over at the end, Bells,Heaton and Huds the Only 3 players to Applaud US

.When a Manager Tells His OWN PLAYERS f**k THE FANS YOU PLAY FOR ME, That was the last insult on Me as a Supporter from Dave Jones, I Already Never Rated Him as a Manager, But thats Why I Have Never Liked him Since and Cant Forgive him. But thats Prob Just Me.
I FELL IN LOVE WITH FOOTBALL BECAUSE OF THE PASSION IT USE TO HAVE, People like DJ are Killing it.
Annis do you feel as i do that DJ has to much power in the club does this make him feel hes untouchable,VT and TG have already stated they know nothing about football,is there anyone else in the club with enough power to haul him to one side i think not, does this rub off on his selection i think so,anyone who disagrees with him just does not get a look in.
picture this scenario we dont get promoted.DJ walks, straight into another job bellamy.oli.drinkie koumas (thank f**k ) goes back to their clubs,jay.chops,burke,whitts sold,we are left up the creek without a paddle, under pressure DJ hasnet got a clue
FFS please tell me im wrong and everything will be fine,please excuse any errors as ive just got back from qpr am pissed and pissed off , robbie
Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:42 am
YOUR NOT FAR OFF MATE.
had this exact convo with carl on the way back. whos does DJ answer to? he needs to stick to matters on the pitch, instead of f*cking about with contracts etc.
is his job safe, NO.
Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:04 am
We had a run of 7 games this season with 6 wins and a draw.
That is the problem I think. When we are good we are very good but when bad shite.
Hardly ever inbetween.
totally agree with this fella!!!! when we are good we're good, and as u say our players don;t applaud the fans THIS IS DOWN TO THEM NOT DJ, if they wanted to applaud they would i think some of our clubs problem is the players EGOS they think they are now too big for this club!!
i don't see many giving 100% at the moment at the end of the day they get there wages whatever happens, i do agree that we should walk this league however on paper us and QPR aint far apart,
we can slate DJ all day long ultimately its the players who put the shift in on the field, whats wrong with a manager criticising players?? nothing if they think there too good to be critisced then they are wrong way wrong and why do people question DJ's passion?? he as much as we do wants to get this club promoted a quote after todays game highlights this
Jones added "It's a kick in the teeth but we were behind QPR and caught up with them before, and we'll have to do it again."
he belives in the squad and the squad need faith in him so do the fans you all say u are loyal supporters and loyal to the club GET BEHIND DJ and the players hes done brilliantly with this club over last 6 seasons whoever questions this was obviously happy with expensive yet very slow progress under other managers/chairmen. we haven't played well all season yet we are 2ND just wait til we hit form!!!
jones has faults so do all managers what would achieve now by changing managers??? and who better to replace him that wouldnlt command higher salary and has proven championship experience/ promotion chasing experience just look at darren ferguson got ousted wrongly in my opinion by peterborough after getting bavck to back promotions now where are peterborough changing managers isn;t the answer, i hope preston keep faith with fergie jnr now i'm sure he'll come good
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