VANDALISM AT READING

I was up at Reading. It was a great game and a fantastic atmosphere from us. What a shame that a few have to spoil it by damaging seats and vandalising the bogs, leaving our club with a bill again, I suppose.

I've written an apology to Reading on behalf of the Trust and its members. A small gesture, I know. Some people seem to be starting a collection to send money to Reading to pay towards the damage but if it's Cardiff City who will be footing the bill, what's the point?

Maybe our club should add a £1 surcharge to every away ticket sold so that in the event of a problem like this, there are funds available. It might incentivise the decent ones among us to shop the vandals and maybe they even might think twice.

Opinions please?

Good idea.

I was up at Reading. It was a great game and a fantastic atmosphere from us. What a shame that a few have to spoil it by damaging seats and vandalising the bogs, leaving our club with a bill again, I suppose.

I've written an apology to Reading on behalf of the Trust and its members. A small gesture, I know. Some people seem to be starting a collection to send money to Reading to pay towards the damage but if it's Cardiff City who will be footing the bill, what's the point?

Maybe our club should add a £1 surcharge to every away ticket sold so that in the event of a problem like this, there are funds available. It might incentivise the decent ones among us to shop the vandals and maybe they even might think twice.

Opinions please?

Mike, They have been called Morons everything by certain people, but the Truth will be told in Carls next update, I think you will find it was say no more than 2 people out of 3,400 Cardiff fans and TOTALLY EXAGGERATED BY CERTAIN PEOPLE. There will be a proper update and the whole truth said, not just half a story, TOTALLY EXAGGERATED.
THe Police have praised Cardiff City fans for their Excellent Behaviour.

Rem the Woman and the Train. The same people Condemned them.

I was up at Reading. It was a great game and a fantastic atmosphere from us. What a shame that a few have to spoil it by damaging seats and vandalising the bogs, leaving our club with a bill again, I suppose.

I've written an apology to Reading on behalf of the Trust and its members. A small gesture, I know. Some people seem to be starting a collection to send money to Reading to pay towards the damage but if it's Cardiff City who will be footing the bill, what's the point?

Maybe our club should add a £1 surcharge to every away ticket sold so that in the event of a problem like this, there are funds available. It might incentivise the decent ones among us to shop the vandals and maybe they even might think twice.

Opinions please?

Did the TRUST STAND UP TO THE MEDIA FOR THE Train Supporters ?

I was up at Reading. It was a great game and a fantastic atmosphere from us. What a shame that a few have to spoil it by damaging seats and vandalising the bogs, leaving our club with a bill again, I suppose.

I've written an apology to Reading on behalf of the Trust and its members. A small gesture, I know. Some people seem to be starting a collection to send money to Reading to pay towards the damage but if it's Cardiff City who will be footing the bill, what's the point?

Maybe our club should add a £1 surcharge to every away ticket sold so that in the event of a problem like this, there are funds available. It might incentivise the decent ones among us to shop the vandals and maybe they even might think twice.

Opinions please?

So lets get this right you want 3,500 fans ( Reading game ) to pay a £1 extra for a ticket so in case a couple of people play up we are covering it with the money of the vastly well behaved City fan.

Mike are you losing your marbles

I was up at Reading. It was a great game and a fantastic atmosphere from us. What a shame that a few have to spoil it by damaging seats and vandalising the bogs, leaving our club with a bill again, I suppose.

I've written an apology to Reading on behalf of the Trust and its members. A small gesture, I know. Some people seem to be starting a collection to send money to Reading to pay towards the damage but if it's Cardiff City who will be footing the bill, what's the point?

Maybe our club should add a £1 surcharge to every away ticket sold so that in the event of a problem like this, there are funds available. It might incentivise the decent ones among us to shop the vandals and maybe they even might think twice.

Opinions please?

So lets get this right you want 3,500 fans ( Reading game ) to pay a £1 extra for a ticket so in case a couple of people play up we are covering it with the money of the vastly well behaved City fan.




Mike are you losing your marbles

How about the trust putting up a bond, theyve had enough money out of us.

The problem is it only takes one fan causing damage etc to give the rest of us a bad name

The problem is it only takes one fan causing damage etc to give the rest of us a bad name

your right you cannot charge every fan money for a just in case scenario and I think you will find out that it was very few seats damaged and that it was not intentional and wanton destruction.

Mike how about talking about CARDIFF CITY FANS EXCELLENT BEHAVIOUR AT READING

I was up at Reading. It was a great game and a fantastic atmosphere from us. What a shame that a few have to spoil it by damaging seats and vandalising the bogs, leaving our club with a bill again, I suppose.

I've written an apology to Reading on behalf of the Trust and its members. A small gesture, I know. Some people seem to be starting a collection to send money to Reading to pay towards the damage but if it's Cardiff City who will be footing the bill, what's the point?

Maybe our club should add a £1 surcharge to every away ticket sold so that in the event of a problem like this, there are funds available. It might incentivise the decent ones among us to shop the vandals and maybe they even might think twice.

Opinions please?

Trouble with a surcharge is that the numbskulls who perpetrated these acts of sheer stupidity will only see it as an excuse to 'get their monies worth'

Unless these people are named and shamed (and even that would probably be seen as a medal) they will continue to do the same....or worse!!

I was at the Reading game and have to say I saw no trouble anywhere....so hopefully this was an isolated incident

I was up at Reading. It was a great game and a fantastic atmosphere from us. What a shame that a few have to spoil it by damaging seats and vandalising the bogs, leaving our club with a bill again, I suppose.

I've written an apology to Reading on behalf of the Trust and its members. A small gesture, I know. Some people seem to be starting a collection to send money to Reading to pay towards the damage but if it's Cardiff City who will be footing the bill, what's the point?

Maybe our club should add a £1 surcharge to every away ticket sold so that in the event of a problem like this, there are funds available. It might incentivise the decent ones among us to shop the vandals and maybe they even might think twice.

Opinions please?

Trouble with a surcharge is that the numbskulls who perpetrated these acts of sheer stupidity will only see it as an excuse to 'get their monies worth'

Unless these people are named and shamed (and even that would probably be seen as a medal) they will continue to do the same....or worse!!

I was at the Reading game and have to say I saw no trouble anywhere....so hopefully this was an isolated incident

definitely isolated, the club are surprised by the over reaction of a section of city fans, the police felt there was nothing to report.

I was up at Reading. It was a great game and a fantastic atmosphere from us. What a shame that a few have to spoil it by damaging seats and vandalising the bogs, leaving our club with a bill again, I suppose.

I've written an apology to Reading on behalf of the Trust and its members. A small gesture, I know. Some people seem to be starting a collection to send money to Reading to pay towards the damage but if it's Cardiff City who will be footing the bill, what's the point?

Maybe our club should add a £1 surcharge to every away ticket sold so that in the event of a problem like this, there are funds available. It might incentivise the decent ones among us to shop the vandals and maybe they even might think twice.

Opinions please?

You will find, that No City fan Delib Broke seats at Reading

Trouble with a surcharge is that the numbskulls who perpetrated these acts of sheer stupidity will only see it as an excuse to 'get their monies worth'

Unless these people are named and shamed (and even that would probably be seen as a medal) they will continue to do the same....or worse!!

I was at the Reading game and have to say I saw no trouble anywhere....so hopefully this was an isolated incident

You will find, that No City fan Delib Broke seats at Reading

putting things into perspective, its hardly worth bringing up is it. Reading FC have buildings insurance for this kind of thing as do all other clubs and this would be incorporated in the entrance fee.

its like Wetherspoons asking customers for a additional surcharge for smashed glasses etc.

I didnt see anything smashed.
DId spill some beer by the bottom of the stairs though. sorry.

putting things into perspective, its hardly worth bringing up is it. Reading FC have buildings insurance for this kind of thing as do all other clubs and this would be incorporated in the entrance fee.

its like Wetherspoons asking customers for a additional surcharge for smashed glasses etc.

Well Said Joff, and we dont agree on many things on here

I was up at Reading. It was a great game and a fantastic atmosphere from us. What a shame that a few have to spoil it by damaging seats and vandalising the bogs, leaving our club with a bill again, I suppose.

I've written an apology to Reading on behalf of the Trust and its members. A small gesture, I know. Some people seem to be starting a collection to send money to Reading to pay towards the damage but if it's Cardiff City who will be footing the bill, what's the point?

Maybe our club should add a £1 surcharge to every away ticket sold so that in the event of a problem like this, there are funds available. It might incentivise the decent ones among us to shop the vandals and maybe they even might think twice.

Opinions please?

I hope I did'nt damage the floor when I fell into the row in front of me head first, it certainly felt like it. I would like to thank the St Johns ambulance for patching me up. I do hope a few of you had a giggle at my expence. Will I ever learn 12 pints of cheap cider at 62 years of age screws you up a bit but also deadens the pain.

The problem is it only takes one fan causing damage etc to give the rest of us a bad name

your right you cannot charge every fan money for a just in case scenario and I think you will find out that it was very few seats damaged and that it was not intentional and wanton destruction.

What about the toilets Carl ?

I can see that seats could be accidentally damaged - maybe not as many as 20, but a few, but what about the toilets ? If you read the thread started by TLG on Mike's board you'll see that I questioned it (the first and only one ) and was given a list of damage to the toilets which is pretty awful.

At the end of the day with our history we cant even afford a handful causing trouble - and vandalism is the most cowardly of all.

Mike how about talking about CARDIFF CITY FANS EXCELLENT BEHAVIOUR AT READING

agree totally

cardiff and reading fans laughing and joking together after the match on the walk back to the coaches, afew even joined in with a bit of dancing as they walked past dibs mini bus which was more like a disco, even the police were in a good mood....

Mike how about talking about CARDIFF CITY FANS EXCELLENT BEHAVIOUR AT READING

agree totally

cardiff and reading fans laughing and joking together after the match on the walk back to the coaches, afew even joined in with a bit of dancing as they walked past dibs mini bus which was more like a disco, even the police were in a good mood....

Yes Totally agree, Great Banter

Apparently a small pipe was bent in the toilets, So say 1 or 2 fans did it and the trust are now making a Big Issue of it
How about the trust supporting its fans.

3,400 AMAZING SUPPORTERS AT READING, I SAW A VIDEO OF US LAST NIGHT, Vince, Carl and I were shown by Big Gwyn of Us ALL BEHIND THE GOAL WHAT AN AMAZING SIGHT, I HOPE Gwyn puts it on here

Mike how about talking about CARDIFF CITY FANS EXCELLENT BEHAVIOUR AT READING

agree totally

cardiff and reading fans laughing and joking together after the match on the walk back to the coaches, afew even joined in with a bit of dancing as they walked past dibs mini bus which was more like a disco, even the police were in a good mood....

Yes Totally agree, Great Banter

Apparently a small pipe was bent in the toilets, So say 1 or 2 fans did it and the trust are now making a Big Issue of it
How about the trust supporting its fans.

3,400 AMAZING SUPPORTERS AT READING, I SAW A VIDEO OF US LAST NIGHT, Vince, Carl and I were shown by Big Gwyn of Us ALL BEHIND THE GOAL WHAT AN AMAZING SIGHT, I HOPE Gwyn puts it on here

Annis. This is the list of damage that was reported.

Reading's Stadium Manager attached ten photographs of the damage with his e-mail to our club officials. They showed:

Photo 1 - a kicked in waste trap
Photo 2 - a urinal cistern ripped from the wall
Photo 3 - a urinal cistern pulled out from the wall and the water pipe damaged
Photo 4 - another kicked in waste trap
Photo 5 - a third kicked in waste trap
Photo 6 - a kicked in soil pipe damaged at floor level
Photo 7 - a toilet roll dispenser pulled from wall
Photo 8 - another toilet roll dispenser pulled from wall
Photo 9 - a soap dispenser pulled from wall
Photo 10 - an anti-bacterial dispenser pulled from wall



I'm usually one of the ones who plays this down. But if this si what happened then its very stupid at best. As you say 3400 of us were there and we gave great support. By far the biggest trun out at Reading this year - Swansea took 2100 on a Saturday by way of comparison, but thanks to the acts of a few twats we are now looking like a load of cheap vandals.

Thats all after the Reading Trust praised our support and backed our calls for fairer treatment in the programme and the police up there were very good as well.

Personally I'm gutted as I had only posted that day that after Coventry away with NO police, probably the least arrests (per fan attending ) in the derby ever - and no repeat of the stand-offs on sloper or by the Ninian with the police, then 3500 travelling to Reading with no trouble we had turned the corner and could start justifying bigger allocations, less bubbles and fairer treatment. Then this. It may be fairly minor in the grand scheme of things, but we could well do without it.

putting things into perspective, its hardly worth bringing up is it. Reading FC have buildings insurance for this kind of thing as do all other clubs and this would be incorporated in the entrance fee.

its like Wetherspoons asking customers for a additional surcharge for smashed glasses etc.

Agree totally.

3,500 fans there and a toilets get smashed and a few seats??

Reading will have made close to £100,000 from Cardiff City on Wednesday!!

putting things into perspective, its hardly worth bringing up is it. Reading FC have buildings insurance for this kind of thing as do all other clubs and this would be incorporated in the entrance fee.

its like Wetherspoons asking customers for a additional surcharge for smashed glasses etc.

Agree totally.

3,500 fans there and a toilets get smashed and a few seats??

Reading will have made close to £100,000 from Cardiff City on Wednesday!!

Yes, but dont kid yurselves about insurance. OUR CLUB will end up with the bill for the damage.

Tim,

I also Know that Cardiff City followed this up and it turned out to be virtually Nil Damage, Which is great News.

Without wishing to sound sinister, Is there strong evidence to pinpoint that ALL of the damage was done by our supporters and not damage already done by previous clubs, as suggested via an attatchment from RFC

I note they have played Doncaster ( who lost 4-3 after being 3-1 up), Swansea, Crystal Palace ( where there ws serious disorder all day and are skint ) and Barnsley ( I saw them wreck Notts forests toilets a few years back) already this season.

Sometimes our fans are easy pickings.

Without whishing to sound sinister, Is there strong evidence to pinpoint that the all the damage was done by our supporters and not damage already done by previous clubs, as suggested via an attatchment from RFC

I note they have played Doncaster ( who lost 4-3 after being 3-1 up), Swansea, Crystal Palace ( where there was serious disorder all day and are skint ) and Barnsley ( I saw them wreck Notts forests toilets a few years back) already this season.

Sometimes our fans are easy pickings.

Correct Joff and made Worse by Our Own trust hyping it up and making out it is bigger than it is, Carl has contacted Gethin Jenkins about this.

Tim,

I also Know that Cardiff City followed this up and it turned out to be virtually Nil Damage, Which is great News.

If that turns out to be the case then great. It seems a long list to me. Any idea how much Reading are costing this up at- and what effect it may have on future travel ?

Was it hyped up by the Trust or by TLG though?

And where did TLG get his "information" from?

Tim,

I also Know that Cardiff City followed this up and it turned out to be virtually Nil Damage, Which is great News.

If that turns out to be the case then great. It seems a long list to me. Any idea how much Reading are costing this up at- and what effect it may have on future travel ?

Tim, Nothing has become of it, reading exaggerated and Nash sent the email out(Ive got one as well) without the photos, which the club realise they should of not off without research first which they now have done, wrong people got the email.

Was it hyped up by the Trust or by TLG though?

And where did TLG get his "information" from?

Tlg who still is active with the trust started all this.

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Tim,

I also Know that Cardiff City followed this up and it turned out to be virtually Nil Damage, Which is great News


If that turns out to be the case then great. It seems a long list to me. Any idea how much Reading are costing this up at- and what effect it may have on future travel ?

Tim, Nothing has become of it, reading exaggerated and Nash sent the email out(Ive got one as well) without the photos, which the club realise they should of not off without research first which they now have done, wrong people got the email.[/quote]



If there are photographs sent by reading fc then lets see them the camera never lies so quite simply put up or shut up.