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The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:57 pm

South Wales Derby - One of Britain's finest?


Just a article I wrote about the past and present, and analysing the actual derby.

Anyone else starting to get butterflies thinking of next Sunday?

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:37 pm

Very good article, enjoyed reading that.

With out a doubt it is one of the most fierce rivalry's in Britain.

I have had butterflies since the fixture were announced, along with Leeds, Millwall, Portsmouth & Bristol City. :ayatollah:

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Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:37 am

It is one of the fiercest in the UK.

Much bigger than anything up here for certain - even Old Firm fans acknowledge that.

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:22 am

baker wrote:South Wales Derby - One of Britain's finest?


Just a article I wrote about the past and present, and analysing the actual derby.

Anyone else starting to get butterflies thinking of next Sunday?


Sorry, lots of inaccuracies in this article.....

Good effort but needs a lot more research :ayatollah:

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:37 am

I'm not too sure if Cardiff and swansea have always been the best 2 sides in Wales. I'm sure Wrexham and Newport would dispute that

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:28 am

Keli wrote:
baker wrote:South Wales Derby - One of Britain's finest?


Just a article I wrote about the past and present, and analysing the actual derby.

Anyone else starting to get butterflies thinking of next Sunday?


Sorry, lots of inaccuracies in this article.....

Good effort but needs a lot more research :ayatollah:

What were the inaccuracies ? It seemed well researched to me :?: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:25 pm

One piece on the "battle of NP" Was a little out. Cardiff invaded the pitch before KO when the Jacks started beating up the seats and hurling them into what was then the family area of the Grandstand forcing the families to leg it. And as for the Jacks hooligans being a "force in this fixture" Well that's miles out. Apart from a few minor results, and I do mean minor, they have done sweet FA against us.

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:55 pm

Yep as big ones go this is without dout one of the big ones, 1first cos there are only 2 big teams in Wales, CARDIFF CITY and uuuuurrrrrr O' yes Swansea. So That in its self makes it big, But this time around they are just below us and we are TOP!
All the teams now are going to come after us as we have put our self up as the team to beat.
I would say the rael big ones are (In No order) MAN U V MANCITY WOLVES V W B A (They really hate each other),
Liverpool V Everton and GUNNERS V SPURS , V WESTHAM. BUT CARDIFF CITY V SWANSEA ARE THE ONLY WELSH Teams That has to be BIG!

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:51 pm

welshcitydragon wrote:Yep as big ones go this is without dout one of the big ones, 1first cos there are only 2 big teams in Wales, CARDIFF CITY and uuuuurrrrrr O' yes Swansea. So That in its self makes it big, But this time around they are just below us and we are TOP!
All the teams now are going to come after us as we have put our self up as the team to beat.
I would say the rael big ones are (In No order) MAN U V MANCITY WOLVES V W B A (They really hate each other),
Liverpool V Everton and GUNNERS V SPURS , V WESTHAM. BUT CARDIFF CITY V SWANSEA ARE THE ONLY WELSH Teams That has to be BIG!

Not sure about that. How do you quantify big? Remember, a few years ago, this game would have been watched by less than 10,000 people. I love the games v the jacks, but most of the ones above have always been played in thye top flight, Wolves v WBA apart. I'm not sure if it's a BIG derby game but certainly a very passionate game

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:03 pm

there was a mickey mouse cup game in the 80's with around 1000 there and a couple of jacks came on the bob bank
i dont think its amongst the biggest derbies but a lot of neutrals will be intrested because of the chance it will kick off
having said that it means the world to us and i wont be able to sleep the night before

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:12 pm

NOTTSBLUE
Thats what Im talking about, there are 2 ways you can class a match as big, not just by the amount, but by the passion that runs the game and as Wales has only 2 teams in the top the passion runs deep. That is why I said about Wolves and WBA both within the 24,000 But in terms of the passion between them Massive.

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:16 pm

LONGDOG wrote:One piece on the "battle of NP" Was a little out. Cardiff invaded the pitch before KO when the Jacks started beating up the seats and hurling them into what was then the family area of the Grandstand forcing the families to leg it. And as for the Jacks hooligans being a "force in this fixture" Well that's miles out. Apart from a few minor results, and I do mean minor, they have done sweet FA against us.


This ^^^^^

I think the author of this article has by some twist of fate, believed a lot of Swansea's self composed hype. At no time were they a 'force' coming to Ninian...you're portraying their seat throwing at our kids section in the same manner as their shameful act of chasing a tiny group of Cardiff stragglers into the sea with their heroic group of over a hundred....and the way they've exagerated about it ever since....they were battered all evening that night, including the Swansea Jack pub being wrecked after their afore-mentioned hero's were chased in their hundreds from that pub by around fifty City fans. :old:
The only 'force' in this fixture (off the field) has absolutely NOT been the bullied cry babies from down West! :)
I wish the same could be said for our on-field antics.

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:27 pm

BracklaBlue72 wrote:
LONGDOG wrote:One piece on the "battle of NP" Was a little out. Cardiff invaded the pitch before KO when the Jacks started beating up the seats and hurling them into what was then the family area of the Grandstand forcing the families to leg it. And as for the Jacks hooligans being a "force in this fixture" Well that's miles out. Apart from a few minor results, and I do mean minor, they have done sweet FA against us.


This ^^^^^

I think the author of this article has by some twist of fate, believed a lot of Swansea's self composed hype. At no time were they a 'force' coming to Ninian...you're portraying their seat throwing at our kids section in the same manner as their shameful act of chasing a tiny group of Cardiff stragglers into the sea with their heroic group of over a hundred....and the way they've exagerated about it ever since....they were battered all evening that night, including the Swansea Jack pub being wrecked after their afore-mentioned hero's were chased in their hundreds from that pub by around fifty City fans. :old:
The only 'force' in this fixture (off the field) has absolutely NOT been the bullied cry babies from down West! :)
I wish the same could be said for our on-field antics.


after the "swim away" game there was quite a few city on the mumbles road hangin around for the jacks (it was a jack trick hanging around picking off small groups returning to their cars) no sign of them the majority went home and the jacks felt brave enough to attck the small number of pvm the were left. i thought the jack pub got done earlier but my memory is not what it was :old: :lol:

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:41 pm

MAESTEG BLUE wrote:
BracklaBlue72 wrote:
LONGDOG wrote:One piece on the "battle of NP" Was a little out. Cardiff invaded the pitch before KO when the Jacks started beating up the seats and hurling them into what was then the family area of the Grandstand forcing the families to leg it. And as for the Jacks hooligans being a "force in this fixture" Well that's miles out. Apart from a few minor results, and I do mean minor, they have done sweet FA against us.


This ^^^^^

I think the author of this article has by some twist of fate, believed a lot of Swansea's self composed hype. At no time were they a 'force' coming to Ninian...you're portraying their seat throwing at our kids section in the same manner as their shameful act of chasing a tiny group of Cardiff stragglers into the sea with their heroic group of over a hundred....and the way they've exagerated about it ever since....they were battered all evening that night, including the Swansea Jack pub being wrecked after their afore-mentioned hero's were chased in their hundreds from that pub by around fifty City fans. :old:
The only 'force' in this fixture (off the field) has absolutely NOT been the bullied cry babies from down West! :)
I wish the same could be said for our on-field antics.


I remember a huge mob of gyps outside the Swansea Jack pub as me and two mates (all 16 and rock hard :lol: ) passed making our way back to the station...there were small groups of City walking back to the station (we'd arrived for the game late on the train and after a taxi ride to the vetch got in towards the end of the first half)...as we were passing this huge mob...and I'm talking fkin hundreds, became very brave and started to cross the road....and the arse fell out of my world :) ...until a loud boom of 'bluebirds' came from behind us on the pub side of the road..fifty odd of them..the Jacks absolutely scattered everywhere...windows of the pub went through...that's when we came into our own :lol: . They were probably the same Swansea Braves who did for our group of young upstarts on the beach later in the evening. Swansea deserve no respect whatsoever in my eyes...Never!

after the "swim away" game there was quite a few city on the mumbles road hangin around for the jacks (it was a jack trick hanging around picking off small groups returning to their cars) no sign of them the majority went home and the jacks felt brave enough to attck the small number of pvm the were left. i thought the jack pub got done earlier but my memory is not what it was :old: :lol:

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:00 pm

every derby game is the biggest to them
eg, to a spurs fan, the game v the gunners is the biggest derby in the world
and same for all of us, our derby is the biggest in the world!

theres not a 'biggest' derby so to speak,

but still, ours is the biggest and best :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:20 pm

Everything I wrote is what is said on articles on the internet etc

As I was not there, being only 1 year old at the time, I couldn't give the most accurate description :?

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:54 am

LONGDOG wrote:One piece on the "battle of NP" Was a little out. Cardiff invaded the pitch before KO when the Jacks started beating up the seats and hurling them into what was then the family area of the Grandstand forcing the families to leg it. And as for the Jacks hooligans being a "force in this fixture" Well that's miles out. Apart from a few minor results, and I do mean minor, they have done sweet FA against us.


Utter bollocks my friend. Cardiff invaded the pitch before the game as the Jacks were entering the stand. As I got in you were all over the field, trying to beat the invisible force field the police had obviously set up. Jacks started slinging seats about, including a few that ended in the family stand, midway through first half. I know time plays tricks on the memory but try to get it right.

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:32 am

neverbeatthejacks wrote:
LONGDOG wrote:One piece on the "battle of NP" Was a little out. Cardiff invaded the pitch before KO when the Jacks started beating up the seats and hurling them into what was then the family area of the Grandstand forcing the families to leg it. And as for the Jacks hooligans being a "force in this fixture" Well that's miles out. Apart from a few minor results, and I do mean minor, they have done sweet FA against us.


Utter bollocks my friend. Cardiff invaded the pitch before the game as the Jacks were entering the stand. As I got in you were all over the field, trying to beat the invisible force field the police had obviously set up. Jacks started slinging seats about, including a few that ended in the family stand, midway through first half. I know time plays tricks on the memory but try to get it right.

And how does what you have said make your lot sound better? :lol:

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:13 pm

baker wrote:
neverbeatthejacks wrote:
LONGDOG wrote:One piece on the "battle of NP" Was a little out. Cardiff invaded the pitch before KO when the Jacks started beating up the seats and hurling them into what was then the family area of the Grandstand forcing the families to leg it. And as for the Jacks hooligans being a "force in this fixture" Well that's miles out. Apart from a few minor results, and I do mean minor, they have done sweet FA against us.


Utter bollocks my friend. Cardiff invaded the pitch before the game as the Jacks were entering the stand. As I got in you were all over the field, trying to beat the invisible force field the police had obviously set up. Jacks started slinging seats about, including a few that ended in the family stand, midway through first half. I know time plays tricks on the memory but try to get it right.

And how does what you have said make your lot sound better? :lol:


now your talking shit fella ccfc ran on the pitch as a result of you throwing seats into the family enclosure below you. we couldn't get at you because of the coppers stopping us. the families escaped that section of the ground and you lot took their place. all this happened before a ball was kicked.
when tomo scored the seat throwing started again
you seem to forget the kicking some of you boys had when you arrived at ninian station
you jacks have selective memories

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:27 pm

neverbeatthejacks wrote:
LONGDOG wrote:One piece on the "battle of NP" Was a little out. Cardiff invaded the pitch before KO when the Jacks started beating up the seats and hurling them into what was then the family area of the Grandstand forcing the families to leg it. And as for the Jacks hooligans being a "force in this fixture" Well that's miles out. Apart from a few minor results, and I do mean minor, they have done sweet FA against us.


Utter bollocks my friend. Cardiff invaded the pitch before the game as the Jacks were entering the stand. As I got in you were all over the field, trying to beat the invisible force field the police had obviously set up. Jacks started slinging seats about, including a few that ended in the family stand, midway through first half. I know time plays tricks on the memory but try to get it right.


Well if there was an 'invisible force field of police'.......Why the feck didn't you join us on the pitch?
Pathetic!

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:47 pm

shut up ya daft, gypo c**t! you were chucking chairs at kids FULL STOP! and it sounds as if the kid that wrote the article is a bin dipper in disguise too. seems to be bigging the jerks up more than us. fuckin inbred, bunch of bully boys, the lot of em!

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:06 am

Utter bollocks my friend. Cardiff invaded the pitch before the game as the Jacks were entering the stand. As I got in you were all over the field, trying to beat the invisible force field the police had obviously set up. Jacks started slinging seats about, including a few that ended in the family stand, midway through first half. I know time plays tricks on the memory but try to get it right.[/quote]
And how does what you have said make your lot sound better? :lol:[/quote]

now your talking shit fella ccfc ran on the pitch as a result of you throwing seats into the family enclosure below you. we couldn't get at you because of the coppers stopping us. the families escaped that section of the ground and you lot took their place. all this happened before a ball was kicked.
when tomo scored the seat throwing started again
you seem to forget the kicking some of you boys had when you arrived at ninian station
you jacks have selective memories[/quote]

Why would we throw seats at kids when your boys were behind a line of police to the left in the same stand? Eh? Some seats may have ended up in the family stand, and that's bad. But this myth you've created, that Swansea turned up hell bent on attacking children is laughable. And if you did invade the pitch to stop it, you did a very bad job. When I got in you were trying not very hard to get past a handfull of very outnumbered pigs. Not a very good effort seeing as how we were dripping in the blood of the innocent children of Cardiff.

Still, if it sells books.

Re: The South Wales Derby - How good is it?

Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:21 pm

neverbeatthejacks wrote:Utter bollocks my friend. Cardiff invaded the pitch before the game as the Jacks were entering the stand. As I got in you were all over the field, trying to beat the invisible force field the police had obviously set up. Jacks started slinging seats about, including a few that ended in the family stand, midway through first half. I know time plays tricks on the memory but try to get it right.

And how does what you have said make your lot sound better? :lol:[/quote]

now your talking shit fella ccfc ran on the pitch as a result of you throwing seats into the family enclosure below you. we couldn't get at you because of the coppers stopping us. the families escaped that section of the ground and you lot took their place. all this happened before a ball was kicked.
when tomo scored the seat throwing started again
you seem to forget the kicking some of you boys had when you arrived at ninian station
you jacks have selective memories[/quote]

Why would we throw seats at kids when your boys were behind a line of police to the left in the same stand? Eh? Some seats may have ended up in the family stand, and that's bad. But this myth you've created, that Swansea turned up hell bent on attacking children is laughable. And if you did invade the pitch to stop it, you did a very bad job. When I got in you were trying not very hard to get past a handfull of very outnumbered pigs. Not a very good effort seeing as how we were dripping in the blood of the innocent children of Cardiff.

Still, if it sells books.[/quote]

Our boys? lol
couple of fathers trying to retaliate and protect their kids...To your left was the family stand...you're 'firm' are a waste of fresh air :D ...as they again proved in their "assault" on The Exchange :lol: