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The Stand "I'll be there". AAMB.... TRUST ? ? ? ?

Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:42 pm

AAMB members supported it, I supported it, but did the trust support it?

any thoughts???



AndyFS

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Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:03 pm

Andy, this messageboard has supported the single to the hilt and Jonny and Owen have told us that if was not for this forum then the single would never have sold the quantities it has.

I was surprised that there were so many fans at the pub yesterday and there was no prominent members of the trust there.

I think we have done enough advertising of the event for everyone to be aware of it.

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Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:13 pm

carlccfc wrote:Andy, this messageboard has supported the single to the hilt and Jonny and Owen have told us that if was not for this forum then the single would never have sold the quantities it has.

I was surprised that there were so many fans at the pub yesterday and there was no prominent members of the trust there.

I think we have done enough advertising of the event for everyone to be aware of it.


As Jon said in his speach with Graham let's make sure that when it comes to the unveiling of the statue that it is done by Freds son and the supporters and not the club jumping on the bandwagon looking to take credit :cry:

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Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:13 pm

Hi Andy, To be Honest I was Gob Smacked Not One Senior Member(out of about 20) of The Trust Attended on Saturday.
I have Been a Member Now for the 2nd Year of its Foundation, I still Dont know what they Stand for and What they Represent and Their Aim is ? ? ?
I asked This Question To Since 62(Keith) a few Weeks ago, But He avoided the Questions, Hmm.
The Fund for The Statue Of Fred Keenor is Actually Run By a Sub Committee of The trust, which Graham Keenor was telling me about on Saturday and Virtually has Nothing to do with the Trust.

But forget that, What I would Like to Know is What is the Trust All about and What Do they Do, We Can All do Interviews with Gethin Jenkins etc, I just ring up and Ask him.

NO I am Sorry But I will DEF NOT BE RENEWING My Membership in March and Carl has Already Quit Being a Member. Thats How We Feel, But Everyone is Entitled to Their Own Opinions. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : The Stand "I'll be there". AAMB.... TRUST ? ? ?

Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:39 pm

the trust was started with all good intentions and fair play to the people who started it it did take a lot of organizing cant fault that but since bein founded and had the members join what has it achieved that other groups of supporters wouldnt have been able too? it was a good idea but fizzled out and hasnt really achieved any of the things it was set up for

Re: Sticky : The Stand "I'll be there". AAMB.... TRUST ? ? ? ?

Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:54 pm

I am confused now, are the Trust the organisers of the statue or not, I genuinely thought it was the main thing they were doing, I have criticised the costing of the statue, but have been told its the going rate, I have supported lot's of the financial schemes in my own small way to help because I want to see it built, but if not the Trust then who is driving it forward, and well done who ever it is.

Re: Sticky : The Stand "I'll be there". AAMB.... TRUST ? ? ? ?

Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:11 pm

i found it unbelievable that graham had given a substancial amount to the fund and not even had recognition or even a mention for it

Re: Sticky : The Stand "I'll be there". AAMB.... TRUST ? ? ? ?

Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:22 pm

Isn't the basic purpose of the trust to get fan representaion on the board and shareholding?

Re: Sticky : The Stand "I'll be there". AAMB.... TRUST ? ? ? ?

Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:41 am

Im with Gwyn on this and very confused.com :lol: Im also a Trust member and not due for renewal until Feb 2011 and I joined to try and make a difference and also I genuinely thought that the Trust was ( should be ) to main interface between us the fans and the club ( CCFC ) .

Other Trusts ( eg Swansea and Glasgow Rangers ) have quite a large amount of their club's shares and have a say into the running of both clubs , their input actually counts for something . Ive got 4 months to decide my renewal or not !!

I searched the UK Top 100 but cant find The Stand ........... mayb e Im loking at tghe wrong charts coz I was expecting a top 20 entry due to the hype and pre - sales ? Well done Asda in Aberdare for having the single on EVERY checkout in the store :D :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :D

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Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:09 pm

Bluetaf wrote:AAMB members supported it, I supported it, but did the trust support it?


Did they support what? What have I missed? Singles still for sale aint it?

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Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:38 pm

Fred Keenor and the Supporters’ Trust
Firstly, I have to declare an interest. I was elected in April/May as a board member, having been a member of the Trust since its inception.
I joined the Trust because I believe it is important that there is a democratic and transparent voice for fans. People have a choice to vote you onto the board and they can vote you out.
I am one of two board members on the Fred Keenor Statue Fund Committee. Our membership is small – six at the most and often much less and we are all volunteers. Graham Keenor is a member and a great supporter.
My fellow board member David Craig, whose acting as the project manager, has put an enormous amount of his own time into the appeal. He’s attended meetings with the club and sculptor (many times), the Football Association, the South Wales Echo, Cardiff council and the Welsh Assembly Government as well as organising collections, attending fundraising events, selling statues and badges. David was expecting a quite time when he retired – far from it.
I’ve also spent many hours on the appeal raising the profile of the appeal (in between trying to earn a living) as well as doing many of things David has. We’re not doing it for ourselves but because we believe that a permanent memorial to Fred Keenor and the 1927 FA Cup team is long overdue and we’re determined to see it happen. But we need more people doing things – like those who arranged the messageboard match, Jonny Owen and the lads and the fans who have run marathons.
David and I were not at the Ninian Park on Saturday because we spent three hours collecting donations and selling Fred Keenor badges on Level 2. We put on a display with the three-foot Keenor statue. Two other Trust board members – Tim Hartley and Keith Morgan - were manning the Trust stand within the stadium and handing out tickets for stadium tours in aid of the appeal. One of the nine board members was out of the country on holiday and I can’t speak for the other four. There are nine board members not 20.
Let’s kill the ill-informed comments made about the Trust and the Keenor appeal once and for all.... A tribute to Keenor was a long way away until the Trust became involved at the invitation of Mike Inker. Mike had launched an online petition but there was no appeal. So the Trust agreed to become involved and the fundraising committee was set up and I’m delighted to be playing my small part in trying to making this a reality.
The appeal would never have got as far as it has without the support of Trust members – that is undeniable. I have to say that the club support for the appeal has been very good, in particular Wayne Nash and Julian Jenkins. Certainly, the club’s support has increased dramatically since the departure of the former chairman.
The Trust is not perfect, no organisation is. People who join political parties don’t agree with everything it does but still support it.
An organisation is often only as good as its members so to those people who continually chip about the Trust why don’t you get involved, stand for election, help the Keenor appeal, organising fundraisers. Let’s have some positive thinking for a change.
And if you haven’t already buy the badges and the 8in miniatures which would make great Christmas presents and help the Keenor statue appeal.
Phil Nifield

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Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:42 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Hi Andy, To be Honest I was Gob Smacked Not One Senior Member(out of about 20) of The Trust Attended on Saturday.
I have Been a Member Now for the 2nd Year of its Foundation, I still Dont know what they Stand for and What they Represent and Their Aim is ? ? ?
I asked This Question To Since 62(Keith) a few Weeks ago, But He avoided the Questions, Hmm.
The Fund for The Statue Of Fred Keenor is Actually Run By a Sub Committee of The trust, which Graham Keenor was telling me about on Saturday and Virtually has Nothing to do with the Trust.

But forget that, What I would Like to Know is What is the Trust All about and What Do they Do, We Can All do Interviews with Gethin Jenkins etc, I just ring up and Ask him.

NO I am Sorry But I will DEF NOT BE RENEWING My Membership in March and Carl has Already Quit Being a Member. Thats How We Feel, But Everyone is Entitled to Their Own Opinions. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Well here's mine then Annis. :lol:

I wouldn't say I was a prominent member of the Trust but I was there at the Ninian on Saturday and it was indeed, an excellent turn out. So much so that with two under 7s holding on (including a 3 yo who was at her first ever City match :ayatollah: ), I could only manage a quick listen before having to dive back in the lounge. Did see you up on what looked like a stage briefly. 

Also, Graham Keenor himself is a Trust member and you obviously met him, so the reports above that the Trust wasn't 'represented', are already off the mark a wee bit. 

To possibly clear up any misunderstanding, the jist of the story is that in November 2007, I was reading a thread on the old ccmb about the Bobby Moore statue at Wembley IIRC, and it struck me that for a club with a fair bit of history such as ours, including all our influence on the Welsh national team over the years, we really didn't have anything to show for it in terms of honouring past players. The closest we had were the two Grandstand bars at NP. Whooppee shit, I thought - some other clubs have two feckin statues. So it didn't take me long to realise that Fred Keenor (and the whole 1927 squad / management but mainly Fred due to his playing record, WWI battle wound, fighting against diabetes, Cardiff born and bred, smoking lol and still captaining a top Wales and City side) would be the obvious candidate. 

I set up a petition, largely to see if it was just pipedream or if others really did support it. This is below and you can see the for yourselves, the numbers that got behind it. That was great news obviously, but after Radio Wales, BBC TV and the Echo started ringing, I realised this wouldn't be achieved on my own. I got it some publicity initially, but it needed a committee or gathering of people to run it. Around six months later I saw that a City Supporters Trust was being mooted and I thought that would be perfect as an organisation to run the campaign. The reason being, it seemed to offer the numbers of willing people it would take to get this thing off the ground (literally). I went to a load of early Trust meetings to offer the idea and although at first it was rejected at that time as the Trust was not actually fully formed as a legal body and the forming and subsequent marketing of the Trust itself, was rightfully deemed to be the Trust's first objective.

Eventually, Corky was in a position to put it to the Trust vote and it was accepted as a Trust objective. I've since seen a lot of the other work the Trust puts in, and I've been impressed.

I'll honestly say, it's fantastic to see such wide ranging support for this perfect City cause, but it wouldn't have got this far without the Trust, the FKSF sub committe, David Craig, the Project Manager. 

Lastly, the statue sub committee meetings are really open to anyone and everyone, as are fund raiding events, so I'll ask when the next meeting is and post it on here for as many to attend as possible. We've still got a long way to go though

:ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : The Stand "I'll be there". AAMB.... TRUST ? ? ? ?

Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:10 pm

So where did it chart then?

I'm in haiti at the moment and we can't get radio 1. cheers!

Re: Sticky : The Stand "I'll be there". AAMB.... TRUST ? ? ? ?

Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:13 pm

Link didn't come up earlier, so posting again:

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/fre ... orial.html

Note to the Petition creator re: Family Stand swap -

they're well worth setting up as they take little maintenance and whilst I personally don't agree with swapping them around, you'll definately find out if the idea is a go-er or not. Being able to print off the names and addresses helps as you can then send them off / present them, although on some sites you have to pay for that

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Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:39 pm

carlccfc wrote:I think we have done enough advertising of the event for everyone to be aware of it.


What was the event? Nobodys said yet.

Re: Sticky : The Stand "I'll be there". AAMB.... TRUST ? ? ? ?

Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:12 pm

Whitchurch Blue wrote:Fred Keenor and the Supporters’ Trust
Firstly, I have to declare an interest. I was elected in April/May as a board member, having been a member of the Trust since its inception.
I joined the Trust because I believe it is important that there is a democratic and transparent voice for fans. People have a choice to vote you onto the board and they can vote you out.
I am one of two board members on the Fred Keenor Statue Fund Committee. Our membership is small – six at the most and often much less and we are all volunteers. Graham Keenor is a member and a great supporter.
My fellow board member David Craig, whose acting as the project manager, has put an enormous amount of his own time into the appeal. He’s attended meetings with the club and sculptor (many times), the Football Association, the South Wales Echo, Cardiff council and the Welsh Assembly Government as well as organising collections, attending fundraising events, selling statues and badges. David was expecting a quite time when he retired – far from it.
I’ve also spent many hours on the appeal raising the profile of the appeal (in between trying to earn a living) as well as doing many of things David has. We’re not doing it for ourselves but because we believe that a permanent memorial to Fred Keenor and the 1927 FA Cup team is long overdue and we’re determined to see it happen. But we need more people doing things – like those who arranged the messageboard match, Jonny Owen and the lads and the fans who have run marathons.
David and I were not at the Ninian Park on Saturday because we spent three hours collecting donations and selling Fred Keenor badges on Level 2. We put on a display with the three-foot Keenor statue. Two other Trust board members – Tim Hartley and Keith Morgan - were manning the Trust stand within the stadium and handing out tickets for stadium tours in aid of the appeal. One of the nine board members was out of the country on holiday and I can’t speak for the other four. There are nine board members not 20.
Let’s kill the ill-informed comments made about the Trust and the Keenor appeal once and for all.... A tribute to Keenor was a long way away until the Trust became involved at the invitation of Mike Inker. Mike had launched an online petition but there was no appeal. So the Trust agreed to become involved and the fundraising committee was set up and I’m delighted to be playing my small part in trying to making this a reality.
The appeal would never have got as far as it has without the support of Trust members – that is undeniable. I have to say that the club support for the appeal has been very good, in particular Wayne Nash and Julian Jenkins. Certainly, the club’s support has increased dramatically since the departure of the former chairman.
The Trust is not perfect, no organisation is. People who join political parties don’t agree with everything it does but still support it.
An organisation is often only as good as its members so to those people who continually chip about the Trust why don’t you get involved, stand for election, help the Keenor appeal, organising fundraisers. Let’s have some positive thinking for a change.
And if you haven’t already buy the badges and the 8in miniatures which would make great Christmas presents and help the Keenor statue appeal.
Phil Nifield


Arfur Europe wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Hi Andy, To be Honest I was Gob Smacked Not One Senior Member(out of about 20) of The Trust Attended on Saturday.
I have Been a Member Now for the 2nd Year of its Foundation, I still Dont know what they Stand for and What they Represent and Their Aim is ? ? ?
I asked This Question To Since 62(Keith) a few Weeks ago, But He avoided the Questions, Hmm.
The Fund for The Statue Of Fred Keenor is Actually Run By a Sub Committee of The trust, which Graham Keenor was telling me about on Saturday and Virtually has Nothing to do with the Trust.

But forget that, What I would Like to Know is What is the Trust All about and What Do they Do, We Can All do Interviews with Gethin Jenkins etc, I just ring up and Ask him.

NO I am Sorry But I will DEF NOT BE RENEWING My Membership in March and Carl has Already Quit Being a Member. Thats How We Feel, But Everyone is Entitled to Their Own Opinions. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Well here's mine then Annis. :lol:

I wouldn't say I was a prominent member of the Trust but I was there at the Ninian on Saturday and it was indeed, an excellent turn out. So much so that with two under 7s holding on (including a 3 yo who was at her first ever City match :ayatollah: ), I could only manage a quick listen before having to dive back in the lounge. Did see you up on what looked like a stage briefly.

Also, Graham Keenor himself is a Trust member and you obviously met him, so the reports above that the Trust wasn't 'represented', are already off the mark a wee bit.

To possibly clear up any misunderstanding, the jist of the story is that in November 2007, I was reading a thread on the old ccmb about the Bobby Moore statue at Wembley IIRC, and it struck me that for a club with a fair bit of history such as ours, including all our influence on the Welsh national team over the years, we really didn't have anything to show for it in terms of honouring past players. The closest we had were the two Grandstand bars at NP. Whooppee shit, I thought - some other clubs have two feckin statues. So it didn't take me long to realise that Fred Keenor (and the whole 1927 squad / management but mainly Fred due to his playing record, WWI battle wound, fighting against diabetes, Cardiff born and bred, smoking lol and still captaining a top Wales and City side) would be the obvious candidate.

I set up a petition, largely to see if it was just pipedream or if others really did support it. This is below and you can see the for yourselves, the numbers that got behind it. That was great news obviously, but after Radio Wales, BBC TV and the Echo started ringing, I realised this wouldn't be achieved on my own. I got it some publicity initially, but it needed a committee or gathering of people to run it. Around six months later I saw that a City Supporters Trust was being mooted and I thought that would be perfect as an organisation to run the campaign. The reason being, it seemed to offer the numbers of willing people it would take to get this thing off the ground (literally). I went to a load of early Trust meetings to offer the idea and although at first it was rejected at that time as the Trust was not actually fully formed as a legal body and the forming and subsequent marketing of the Trust itself, was rightfully deemed to be the Trust's first objective.

Eventually, Corky was in a position to put it to the Trust vote and it was accepted as a Trust objective. I've since seen a lot of the other work the Trust puts in, and I've been impressed.

I'll honestly say, it's fantastic to see such wide ranging support for this perfect City cause, but it wouldn't have got this far without the Trust, the FKSF sub committe, David Craig, the Project Manager.

Lastly, the statue sub committee meetings are really open to anyone and everyone, as are fund raiding events, so I'll ask when the next meeting is and post it on here for as many to attend as possible. We've still got a long way to go though

:ayatollah:


Whilst I applaud anyone and everyone that gives up their time to work on the CCST board, as an exile and a ST holder with two children aged 9 and 10 in the family/grange end the only information that I get as a member of the trust (from the outset) is an e-mail every now and then.

I have said to Vince and Corky before that the trust location in the ground needs to be accessable to ALL, and at this moment in time anyone in the family stand does not have that. If only to be able to pop in say hello would be good and to put names to faces. :?:

To me and my family, this forum has been a great source of information regarding our club and as importantly it has been a great source, to meet like minded supporters of our club in a social environment too, which in turn has created thought and debate and questions for us all. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:
I know the STAR (Supporters Trust at Reading) have many social functions that are used to raise monies and get people together at the same time. A thought :?:

At the end of the day, we are all city supporters and are hopefully driving towards the same goal, success both on and off pitch. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:
AndyFS

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Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:37 pm

Bluetaf wrote:I have said to Vince and Corky before that the trust location in the ground needs to be accessable to ALL, and at this moment in time anyone in the family stand does not have that. If only to be able to pop in say hello would be good and to put names to faces. :?:

AndyFS


That is spot on Andy and we've raised the issue with the Club a number of times including at our last meeting 2 weeks ago. We will again be seeing Wayne Nash to try to identify a suitable place in the stadium that has external access so all fans can get to the Trust area but we've already been told we might have to ask the Supporters Club if we can share their space. Mark and Vince etc would probably tell us to bog off (understandably) as that area is already small for them on their own. :lol: We've offered to pay for any building work, like putting in an exterior door, which might be necessary and if we have to, we'll pay to have a portakabin or ticket type booth. Just wanted to let you know that our invisibility is not by choice and we're trying to do something about it. :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : The Stand "I'll be there". AAMB.... TRUST ? ? ? ?

Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:09 am

LIKE WITH ANYTHING, THEY JUST WANT YOUR MONEY TO LINE THIER OWN POCKETS AND INTRESTS

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Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:13 am

The Ratcatcher wrote:
carlccfc wrote:I think we have done enough advertising of the event for everyone to be aware of it.


What was the event? Nobodys said yet.



HAY CLEVER CLOGGS with your 16 snipping posts, saturday norwich home was a event , everyone was welcome

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Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:55 pm

Ben wrote:HAY CLEVER CLOGGS with your 16 snipping posts, saturday norwich home was a event , everyone was welcome


I was at the Norwich game. So was about 24,000 others. We won 3-1 but I dont think thats the event the person who started this thread is on about. Nobodys said what it was yet. Is it a secret?

Yeah I only got 16 posts but then I got better things to do with my life than spend all day on a message board. Maybe you aint got nothing better to do looking at the amount of shit you post on here. And I aint a hairdresser so I dont do no snipping.

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Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:39 pm

The Ratcatcher wrote:
carlccfc wrote:I think we have done enough advertising of the event for everyone to be aware of it.


What was the event? Nobodys said yet.


Ratcatcher the event was meeting at the Ninian Park Pub where there would be special guests Graham Keenor, Jonny Owen and Owen Powell along with the FA Cup which would be followed by a walk to the retail park where fans could buy copies of the single.

This was advertised for many weeks on the this forum and was on Facebook covered by many groups.

Re: Sticky : The Stand "I'll be there". AAMB.... TRUST ? ? ? ?

Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:36 pm

Thanks for the info mate. Gotta be honest though, people having ago at the trust for not having someone there seems very harsh to me. If it was only advetised on here or facebook then not too many would have known about it and it seems the trust guys have been doing lots to get this statue built from what Ive seen in the echo. They set up petitions and collections and got the sculpter chosen and design voted on and got lots of publicity for it and got backing from the club and the council and lots of stuff like that. I thought this Graham Keenor fella was in with the trust too.

Seems to me like a few people on this board always want to have ago at the trust whatever happens and I dont get that. Maybe it aint for them and to be fair it aint for me neither but I wont knock it coz I cant see it doing any harm and they seem to do some good stuff on times. Maybe some dont like it coz its supposed to be democratic. It was the same when the rams were going on. Lots of people want to moan at anyone who trys to do something but they dont want to do nothing themselves.

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Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:06 pm

Hi all!

Let's be cool here...I think everyone really helped in all this.

The boys on here...the trust..the club have all been great.

Seriously. I've been in London the last two days and everyone has mentioned it so on that front we've had loads of positive publicity.

The single was very very funny. On pre-orders we actually topped the charts!! haha...but then after the initial surge we couldn't get anyone else to buy it!! but I think deep down we all know that's what it's like...
There's about 3,000 hardcore (like the old days!) and many others who are there and love City but maybe not quite in the same way. Which is absolutely fair enough. things take time...and times are tight at the moment.

But, you know, we got a load of publicity about it and some prominent businessmen getting in touch...and that's what it was all about. That's where we'll get the tens of thousands the statue needs...the single will certainly raise a few grand though...but the press you cannot put a price on.

The last thing I want is anyone to fall out and argue about this though.
This is where we all pull together as City fans...and we will get there.
We all know we face enough enemies outside the club without arguing among ourselves and I have to say I'd do it all again at the drop of a fuckin hat...twice over!

Even if it was just for the trip to Leeds... ;)

So pleas keep the faith folks...and dont forget we're still top!! :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : The Stand "I'll be there". AAMB.... TRUST ? ? ? ?

Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:07 pm

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sports/spo ... -27573187/

Re: Sticky : The Stand "I'll be there". AAMB.... TRUST ? ? ? ?

Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:33 pm

Jonathan Owen wrote:http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sports/sports-columnists/2010/10/31/delme-parfitt-why-fred-keenor-tribute-song-hits-all-the-right-notes-91466-27573187/


As you said, the publicity this has generated for the appeal is priceless, never mind the money the single has made.

Superb job you and the guys have done. :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : The Stand "I'll be there". AAMB.... TRUST ? ? ? ?

Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:50 pm

Jonathan Owen wrote:Hi all!

Let's be cool here...I think everyone really helped in all this.

The boys on here...the trust..the club have all been great.

Seriously. I've been in London the last two days and everyone has mentioned it so on that front we've had loads of positive publicity.

The single was very very funny. On pre-orders we actually topped the charts!! haha...but then after the initial surge we couldn't get anyone else to buy it!! but I think deep down we all know that's what it's like...
There's about 3,000 hardcore (like the old days!) and many others who are there and love City but maybe not quite in the same way. Which is absolutely fair enough. things take time...and times are tight at the moment.

But, you know, we got a load of publicity about it and some prominent businessmen getting in touch...and that's what it was all about. That's where we'll get the tens of thousands the statue needs...the single will certainly raise a few grand though...but the press you cannot put a price on.

The last thing I want is anyone to fall out and argue about this though.
This is where we all pull together as City fans...and we will get there.
We all know we face enough enemies outside the club without arguing among ourselves and I have to say I'd do it all again at the drop of a fuckin hat...twice over!

Even if it was just for the trip to Leeds... ;)

So pleas keep the faith folks...and dont forget we're still top!! :ayatollah:



I think its time you gave up acting and become Chairman :D :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Sticky : The Stand "I'll be there". AAMB.... TRUST ? ? ? ?

Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:12 pm

Well I did get to walk around the pitch like an Chairman from the past! haha..

Only I HAD to bow to you lot too... ;)

Fingers crossed for the weekend now folks a? :ayatollah:

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Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:19 pm

Arfur Europe wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Hi Andy, To be Honest I was Gob Smacked Not One Senior Member(out of about 20) of The Trust Attended on Saturday.
I have Been a Member Now for the 2nd Year of its Foundation, I still Dont know what they Stand for and What they Represent and Their Aim is ? ? ?
I asked This Question To Since 62(Keith) a few Weeks ago, But He avoided the Questions, Hmm.
The Fund for The Statue Of Fred Keenor is Actually Run By a Sub Committee of The trust, which Graham Keenor was telling me about on Saturday and Virtually has Nothing to do with the Trust.

But forget that, What I would Like to Know is What is the Trust All about and What Do they Do, We Can All do Interviews with Gethin Jenkins etc, I just ring up and Ask him.

NO I am Sorry But I will DEF NOT BE RENEWING My Membership in March and Carl has Already Quit Being a Member. Thats How We Feel, But Everyone is Entitled to Their Own Opinions. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Well here's mine then Annis. :lol:

I wouldn't say I was a prominent member of the Trust but I was there at the Ninian on Saturday and it was indeed, an excellent turn out. So much so that with two under 7s holding on (including a 3 yo who was at her first ever City match :ayatollah: ), I could only manage a quick listen before having to dive back in the lounge. Did see you up on what looked like a stage briefly. 

Also, Graham Keenor himself is a Trust member and you obviously met him, so the reports above that the Trust wasn't 'represented', are already off the mark a wee bit. 

To possibly clear up any misunderstanding, the jist of the story is that in November 2007, I was reading a thread on the old ccmb about the Bobby Moore statue at Wembley IIRC, and it struck me that for a club with a fair bit of history such as ours, including all our influence on the Welsh national team over the years, we really didn't have anything to show for it in terms of honouring past players. The closest we had were the two Grandstand bars at NP. Whooppee shit, I thought - some other clubs have two feckin statues. So it didn't take me long to realise that Fred Keenor (and the whole 1927 squad / management but mainly Fred due to his playing record, WWI battle wound, fighting against diabetes, Cardiff born and bred, smoking lol and still captaining a top Wales and City side) would be the obvious candidate. 

I set up a petition, largely to see if it was just pipedream or if others really did support it. This is below and you can see the for yourselves, the numbers that got behind it. That was great news obviously, but after Radio Wales, BBC TV and the Echo started ringing, I realised this wouldn't be achieved on my own. I got it some publicity initially, but it needed a committee or gathering of people to run it. Around six months later I saw that a City Supporters Trust was being mooted and I thought that would be perfect as an organisation to run the campaign. The reason being, it seemed to offer the numbers of willing people it would take to get this thing off the ground (literally). I went to a load of early Trust meetings to offer the idea and although at first it was rejected at that time as the Trust was not actually fully formed as a legal body and the forming and subsequent marketing of the Trust itself, was rightfully deemed to be the Trust's first objective.

Eventually, Corky was in a position to put it to the Trust vote and it was accepted as a Trust objective. I've since seen a lot of the other work the Trust puts in, and I've been impressed.

I'll honestly say, it's fantastic to see such wide ranging support for this perfect City cause, but it wouldn't have got this far without the Trust, the FKSF sub committe, David Craig, the Project Manager. 

Lastly, the statue sub committee meetings are really open to anyone and everyone, as are fund raiding events, so I'll ask when the next meeting is and post it on here for as many to attend as possible. We've still got a long way to go though

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My Old Friend Arthur, Yes Ive met Graham and he was a True Gent, But he also stated Quite Strongly He is A SUB COMMITTEE
Member and once this is All over he will No longer be involved.
Please Some one TELL ME WHAT THE TRUST DOES ?

Re: Sticky : The Stand "I'll be there". AAMB.... TRUST ? ? ? ?

Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:50 pm

In response to Forever Blue who asks what is it for:-
......the Trust provides a platform to speak on behalf of all supporters to the club. As a democratic organisation, any disagreements, viewpoints can be aired in full.
The hope is that, in time, the trust will have sufficient members and financial bite to procure greater influence. To be fair to the club, they have recognised the value of a supporters trust and are beginning to show due respect to the organisers and membership. It is also worth remembering all money men can and often do, walk away, a strong supporters Trust can help mitigate any knock on ill-effects.

Re: Sticky : The Stand "I'll be there". AAMB.... TRUST ? ? ? ?

Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:37 pm

VCLEE wrote:In response to Forever Blue who asks what is it for:-
......the Trust provides a platform to speak on behalf of all supporters to the club. As a democratic organisation, any disagreements, viewpoints can be aired in full.
The hope is that, in time, the trust will have sufficient members and financial bite to procure greater influence. To be fair to the club, they have recognised the value of a supporters trust and are beginning to show due respect to the organisers and membership. It is also worth remembering all money men can and often do, walk away, a strong supporters Trust can help mitigate any knock on ill-effects.


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