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Two Tier Justice

Fri Jun 12, 2026 8:22 am

Afsar Safi, an Afghani migrant, kidnapped and sexually assaulted a 7 year old girl. He got two and a half years in prison and is expected to be out on license after 6 months.
Reece Robinson threw stones, at a demo in Southampton and got 2 years.
This country is in a terrible place.

Re: Two Tier Justice

Fri Jun 12, 2026 8:33 am

Jock wrote:Afsar Safi, an Afghani migrant, kidnapped and sexually assaulted a 7 year old girl. He got two and a half years in prison and is expected to be out on license after 6 months.
Reece Robinson threw stones, at a demo in Southampton and got 2 years.
This country is in a terrible place.



Jock 100% agree last chance vote reform otherwise we are f.cked, tories labour libs, will not change this enough to suit the British public.

Re: Two Tier Justice

Fri Jun 12, 2026 9:37 am

Totally agree with you both guys

Re: Two Tier Justice

Fri Jun 12, 2026 10:04 am

I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.

Re: Two Tier Justice

Fri Jun 12, 2026 10:19 am

worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.

Our politicians and judiciary are on a completely different page to the general public.

Re: Two Tier Justice

Fri Jun 12, 2026 10:47 am

Jock wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.

Our politicians and judiciary are on a completely different page to the general public.


Lord hermer and his fabian lot are running this country starmer is the face of them.

Re: Two Tier Justice

Fri Jun 12, 2026 10:59 am

montyblue wrote:
Jock wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.

Our politicians and judiciary are on a completely different page to the general public.


Lord hermer and his fabian lot are running this country starmer is the face of them.


Current government have to take some of the blame of course but it's not just them, no government in recent history have put enough pressure on the sentencing council to have more serious sentences for certain crimes.

One of the first things this government had no choice but doing was releasing some offenders early because the previous government willingly allowed overcrowding in prisons which led to limited spaces. But I will concede it's debatable at best whether they released the right people early.

Re: Two Tier Justice

Fri Jun 12, 2026 11:29 am

worcester_ccfc wrote:
montyblue wrote:
Jock wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.

Our politicians and judiciary are on a completely different page to the general public.


Lord hermer and his fabian lot are running this country starmer is the face of them.


Current government have to take some of the blame of course but it's not just them, no government in recent history have put enough pressure on the sentencing council to have more serious sentences for certain crimes.

One of the first things this government had no choice but doing was releasing some offenders early because the previous government willingly allowed overcrowding in prisons which led to limited spaces. But I will concede it's debatable at best whether they released the right people early.

I agree that successive governments have been pathetic but Fabian’s have been planning this since 1884. The long march through the institutions is complete. The judiciary, NHS, Police, academia, media, entertainment industry, civil service and even the National Trust, all captured by this vile ideology.

Re: Two Tier Justice

Fri Jun 12, 2026 12:46 pm

Jock wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
montyblue wrote:
Jock wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.

Our politicians and judiciary are on a completely different page to the general public.


Lord hermer and his fabian lot are running this country starmer is the face of them.


Current government have to take some of the blame of course but it's not just them, no government in recent history have put enough pressure on the sentencing council to have more serious sentences for certain crimes.

One of the first things this government had no choice but doing was releasing some offenders early because the previous government willingly allowed overcrowding in prisons which led to limited spaces. But I will concede it's debatable at best whether they released the right people early.

I agree that successive governments have been pathetic but Fabian’s have been planning this since 1884. The long march through the institutions is complete. The judiciary, NHS, Police, academia, media, entertainment industry, civil service and even the National Trust, all captured by this vile ideology.


Jock/ Monty unfortunately you're absolutely correct. Actually you have to admire the way they've slowly enabled this to happen, their old motto (a wolf in sheep's clothing) sums them up perfectly.
It will take a long time to undo all the spiders webs they have weaved.
Whether left/right/centre we'll all suffer if their final part of the plan takes off as they've planned it so well over all those years.
The only possible saving grace is that people are becoming wise to it now, 2029 will either be Labour's nemesis or their complete victory over free speech and all the other things that our fathers/grandfather's fought for.

Re: Two Tier Justice

Fri Jun 12, 2026 3:39 pm

CF64 BLUE wrote:
Jock wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
montyblue wrote:
Jock wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.

Our politicians and judiciary are on a completely different page to the general public.


Lord hermer and his fabian lot are running this country starmer is the face of them.


Current government have to take some of the blame of course but it's not just them, no government in recent history have put enough pressure on the sentencing council to have more serious sentences for certain crimes.

One of the first things this government had no choice but doing was releasing some offenders early because the previous government willingly allowed overcrowding in prisons which led to limited spaces. But I will concede it's debatable at best whether they released the right people early.

I agree that successive governments have been pathetic but Fabian’s have been planning this since 1884. The long march through the institutions is complete. The judiciary, NHS, Police, academia, media, entertainment industry, civil service and even the National Trust, all captured by this vile ideology.


Jock/ Monty unfortunately you're absolutely correct. Actually you have to admire the way they've slowly enabled this to happen, their old motto (a wolf in sheep's clothing) sums them up perfectly.
It will take a long time to undo all the spiders webs they have weaved.
Whether left/right/centre we'll all suffer if their final part of the plan takes off as they've planned it so well over all those years.
The only possible saving grace is that people are becoming wise to it now, 2029 will either be Labour's nemesis or their complete victory over free speech and all the other things that our fathers/grandfather's fought for.



The Fabian group
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Re: Two Tier Justice

Fri Jun 12, 2026 3:51 pm

montyblue wrote:
CF64 BLUE wrote:
Jock wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
montyblue wrote:
Jock wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.

Our politicians and judiciary are on a completely different page to the general public.


Lord hermer and his fabian lot are running this country starmer is the face of them.


Current government have to take some of the blame of course but it's not just them, no government in recent history have put enough pressure on the sentencing council to have more serious sentences for certain crimes.

One of the first things this government had no choice but doing was releasing some offenders early because the previous government willingly allowed overcrowding in prisons which led to limited spaces. But I will concede it's debatable at best whether they released the right people early.

I agree that successive governments have been pathetic but Fabian’s have been planning this since 1884. The long march through the institutions is complete. The judiciary, NHS, Police, academia, media, entertainment industry, civil service and even the National Trust, all captured by this vile ideology.


Jock/ Monty unfortunately you're absolutely correct. Actually you have to admire the way they've slowly enabled this to happen, their old motto (a wolf in sheep's clothing) sums them up perfectly.
It will take a long time to undo all the spiders webs they have weaved.
Whether left/right/centre we'll all suffer if their final part of the plan takes off as they've planned it so well over all those years.
The only possible saving grace is that people are becoming wise to it now, 2029 will either be Labour's nemesis or their complete victory over free speech and all the other things that our fathers/grandfather's fought for.



The Fabian group


It's a think tank, that's all. Just like all parties will have think tanks associated with them.

I think some people are looking at it as having more importance than it actually does. A bit like the trade unions used to have a huge says over Labour policy but they just don't anymore.

Re: Two Tier Justice

Fri Jun 12, 2026 4:25 pm

That's fair enough Ned.

Re: Two Tier Justice

Fri Jun 12, 2026 6:47 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
montyblue wrote:
CF64 BLUE wrote:
Jock wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
montyblue wrote:
Jock wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.

Our politicians and judiciary are on a completely different page to the general public.


Lord hermer and his fabian lot are running this country starmer is the face of them.


Current government have to take some of the blame of course but it's not just them, no government in recent history have put enough pressure on the sentencing council to have more serious sentences for certain crimes.

One of the first things this government had no choice but doing was releasing some offenders early because the previous government willingly allowed overcrowding in prisons which led to limited spaces. But I will concede it's debatable at best whether they released the right people early.

I agree that successive governments have been pathetic but Fabian’s have been planning this since 1884. The long march through the institutions is complete. The judiciary, NHS, Police, academia, media, entertainment industry, civil service and even the National Trust, all captured by this vile ideology.


Jock/ Monty unfortunately you're absolutely correct. Actually you have to admire the way they've slowly enabled this to happen, their old motto (a wolf in sheep's clothing) sums them up perfectly.
It will take a long time to undo all the spiders webs they have weaved.
Whether left/right/centre we'll all suffer if their final part of the plan takes off as they've planned it so well over all those years.
The only possible saving grace is that people are becoming wise to it now, 2029 will either be Labour's nemesis or their complete victory over free speech and all the other things that our fathers/grandfather's fought for.



The Fabian group


It's a think tank, that's all. Just like all parties will have think tanks associated with them.

I think some people are looking at it as having more importance than it actually does. A bit like the trade unions used to have a huge says over Labour policy but they just don't anymore.

Far more influential than a think tank. They have pushed their ideology into every British Institution.

Re: Two Tier Justice

Fri Jun 12, 2026 6:53 pm

Jock wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
montyblue wrote:
CF64 BLUE wrote:
Jock wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
montyblue wrote:
Jock wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.

Our politicians and judiciary are on a completely different page to the general public.


Lord hermer and his fabian lot are running this country starmer is the face of them.


Current government have to take some of the blame of course but it's not just them, no government in recent history have put enough pressure on the sentencing council to have more serious sentences for certain crimes.

One of the first things this government had no choice but doing was releasing some offenders early because the previous government willingly allowed overcrowding in prisons which led to limited spaces. But I will concede it's debatable at best whether they released the right people early.

I agree that successive governments have been pathetic but Fabian’s have been planning this since 1884. The long march through the institutions is complete. The judiciary, NHS, Police, academia, media, entertainment industry, civil service and even the National Trust, all captured by this vile ideology.


Jock/ Monty unfortunately you're absolutely correct. Actually you have to admire the way they've slowly enabled this to happen, their old motto (a wolf in sheep's clothing) sums them up perfectly.
It will take a long time to undo all the spiders webs they have weaved.
Whether left/right/centre we'll all suffer if their final part of the plan takes off as they've planned it so well over all those years.
The only possible saving grace is that people are becoming wise to it now, 2029 will either be Labour's nemesis or their complete victory over free speech and all the other things that our fathers/grandfather's fought for.



The Fabian group


It's a think tank, that's all. Just like all parties will have think tanks associated with them.

I think some people are looking at it as having more importance than it actually does. A bit like the trade unions used to have a huge says over Labour policy but they just don't anymore.

Far more influential than a think tank. They have pushed their ideology into every British Institution.


I disagree, the things they put forward are way more radical than what actually happens. Which is pretty much what a think tank does.

And I've said similar about think tanks connected to the Tories so this isn't me being biased.

Re: Two Tier Justice

Fri Jun 12, 2026 7:10 pm

Jock wrote:Afsar Safi, an Afghani migrant, kidnapped and sexually assaulted a 7 year old girl. He got two and a half years in prison and is expected to be out on license after 6 months.
Reece Robinson threw stones, at a demo in Southampton and got 2 years.
This country is in a terrible place.

100% agree mate totally messed up
BRITAIN I’m 63 years of age fortunate enough to have worked all my life with the obvious paid tax and NI every week of my life
I do not have access to a NHS dentist if I have to call a ambulance I have a four to six hours wait in my area
The guy who tried to behead that poor soul in N IRELAND and the likes of him immediately in custody has access to a NHS DENTIST and immediate emergency medical care because this fooked up country believes it has a duty of care to him
What about their duty of care to me
Britain is BROKEN and I believe to far gone to repair
RANT OVER

Re: Two Tier Justice

Fri Jun 12, 2026 8:34 pm

"If we knew our power, we wouldn't elevate not a single one of these clowns."
-Akala......

Reform ain't the fkn answer to any of the problems in society.

Labour are Traitors to their class.

Torries... Dont even get me started.

Re: Two Tier Justice

Sat Jun 13, 2026 8:25 am

I see those responsible for the arms factory attack in Bristol have been jailed. The individual who hit the police officer with a sledge hammer got 7years 8 months for GBH. I thought he got off lightly given there's a fair chance that if you hit someone with a sledgehammer you'll kill them. John McDonald and Zac Polanski both think he didn't deserve to be jailed ! Both of these could yet play a role in shaping our next government given the significant possibility of hard left coalition.

Re: Two Tier Justice

Sat Jun 13, 2026 11:47 am

epping blue wrote:I see those responsible for the arms factory attack in Bristol have been jailed. The individual who hit the police officer with a sledge hammer got 7years 8 months for GBH. I thought he got off lightly given there's a fair chance that if you hit someone with a sledgehammer you'll kill them. John McDonald and Zac Polanski both think he didn't deserve to be jailed ! Both of these could yet play a role in shaping our next government given the significant possibility of hard left coalition.

Genuinely scary thoughts! :cry:

Re: Two Tier Justice

Sat Jun 13, 2026 11:52 am

epping blue wrote:I see those responsible for the arms factory attack in Bristol have been jailed. The individual who hit the police officer with a sledge hammer got 7years 8 months for GBH. I thought he got off lightly given there's a fair chance that if you hit someone with a sledgehammer you'll kill them. John McDonald and Zac Polanski both think he didn't deserve to be jailed ! Both of these could yet play a role in shaping our next government given the significant possibility of hard left coalition.


Won't happen. The Greens and Labour have very different views, the Greens leader is way way to the left of us - whoever the new Labour leader is. Labour will never team up with the Greens while he's leader. I know this because I'm actually involved in the party, so not basing it off speculation.

Also, John McDonnell won't be involved in any cabinet.

Don't forget that Labour prescribed Palestine Action a terrorist organisation (right decision) and the Greens didn't like that.

Re: Two Tier Justice

Sat Jun 13, 2026 12:56 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
epping blue wrote:I see those responsible for the arms factory attack in Bristol have been jailed. The individual who hit the police officer with a sledge hammer got 7years 8 months for GBH. I thought he got off lightly given there's a fair chance that if you hit someone with a sledgehammer you'll kill them. John McDonald and Zac Polanski both think he didn't deserve to be jailed ! Both of these could yet play a role in shaping our next government given the significant possibility of hard left coalition.


Won't happen. The Greens and Labour have very different views, the Greens leader is way way to the left of us - whoever the new Labour leader is. Labour will never team up with the Greens while he's leader. I know this because I'm actually involved in the party, so not basing it off speculation.

Also, John McDonnell won't be involved in any cabinet.

Don't forget that Labour prescribed Palestine Action a terrorist organisation (right decision) and the Greens didn't like that.


The Greens have broad but shallow support. Most polls I've seen have them picking up around 20 seats if the election was run today. That's way less than the Lib Dems, Tories and SNP.

Re: Two Tier Justice

Sat Jun 13, 2026 3:14 pm

Jock wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
montyblue wrote:
Jock wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.

Our politicians and judiciary are on a completely different page to the general public.


Lord hermer and his fabian lot are running this country starmer is the face of them.


Current government have to take some of the blame of course but it's not just them, no government in recent history have put enough pressure on the sentencing council to have more serious sentences for certain crimes.

One of the first things this government had no choice but doing was releasing some offenders early because the previous government willingly allowed overcrowding in prisons which led to limited spaces. But I will concede it's debatable at best whether they released the right people early.

I agree that successive governments have been pathetic but Fabian’s have been planning this since 1884. The long march through the institutions is complete. The judiciary, NHS, Police, academia, media, entertainment industry, civil service and even the National Trust, all captured by this vile ideology.


100% agree and this woke agenda isnt helping anyone either .
Fact is our children and grandchildren are all at severe risk in our own country and its up to us to grow a pair of balls and stick up for them and reverse all this shit .We in wales are to soft to weak to stupid to realise what the F is going on here .
Everyone needs to wake up.s wales police now have anti islam laws here only place in uk Cardiff is a very left woke city now and we all do nothing just sit back pisses me off .Here stuff on the news all the time and until its your son or daughter or your grandchildren no gives an F thats the issue and until it changes nothing will change in my opinion

Re: Two Tier Justice

Sat Jun 13, 2026 9:17 pm

Restore Party with Rupert Lowe is our best bet. Look into him on social media, he's doing really good things

Re: Two Tier Justice

Sat Jun 13, 2026 9:23 pm

Cardiff_CPT wrote:Restore Party with Rupert Lowe is our best bet. Look into him on social media, he's doing really good things


Obviously not my type of politics and don't agree with a lot of what they say but I wouldn't be surprised to see them do very, very well at the next election.

They're building very quickly and with an election probably 2/3 years away, they could be in a very strong position by then.

When I've been up in the Makerfield constituency lately, I've seen that they have large numbers in volunteers. They'll probably be third in that by-election but that's progress for them, they'd probably be pleased with that given the short amount of time they've been going.

Re: Two Tier Justice

Sat Jun 13, 2026 11:08 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
Cardiff_CPT wrote:Restore Party with Rupert Lowe is our best bet. Look into him on social media, he's doing really good things


Obviously not my type of politics and don't agree with a lot of what they say but I wouldn't be surprised to see them do very, very well at the next election.

They're building very quickly and with an election probably 2/3 years away, they could be in a very strong position by then.

When I've been up in the Makerfield constituency lately, I've seen that they have large numbers in volunteers. They'll probably be third in that by-election but that's progress for them, they'd probably be pleased with that given the short amount of time they've been going.

The most likely party to hand Labour’s Andy Burnham the seat he wants to challenge Sir Keir Starmer, as every vote for them is likely one less for Nigel Farage and his dodgy but local candidate