Fri Jun 12, 2026 8:22 am
Fri Jun 12, 2026 8:33 am
Jock wrote:Afsar Safi, an Afghani migrant, kidnapped and sexually assaulted a 7 year old girl. He got two and a half years in prison and is expected to be out on license after 6 months.
Reece Robinson threw stones, at a demo in Southampton and got 2 years.
This country is in a terrible place.
Fri Jun 12, 2026 9:37 am
Fri Jun 12, 2026 10:04 am
Fri Jun 12, 2026 10:19 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.
Fri Jun 12, 2026 10:47 am
Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.
Our politicians and judiciary are on a completely different page to the general public.
Fri Jun 12, 2026 10:59 am
montyblue wrote:Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.
Our politicians and judiciary are on a completely different page to the general public.
Lord hermer and his fabian lot are running this country starmer is the face of them.
Fri Jun 12, 2026 11:29 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:montyblue wrote:Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.
Our politicians and judiciary are on a completely different page to the general public.
Lord hermer and his fabian lot are running this country starmer is the face of them.
Current government have to take some of the blame of course but it's not just them, no government in recent history have put enough pressure on the sentencing council to have more serious sentences for certain crimes.
One of the first things this government had no choice but doing was releasing some offenders early because the previous government willingly allowed overcrowding in prisons which led to limited spaces. But I will concede it's debatable at best whether they released the right people early.
Fri Jun 12, 2026 12:46 pm
Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:montyblue wrote:Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.
Our politicians and judiciary are on a completely different page to the general public.
Lord hermer and his fabian lot are running this country starmer is the face of them.
Current government have to take some of the blame of course but it's not just them, no government in recent history have put enough pressure on the sentencing council to have more serious sentences for certain crimes.
One of the first things this government had no choice but doing was releasing some offenders early because the previous government willingly allowed overcrowding in prisons which led to limited spaces. But I will concede it's debatable at best whether they released the right people early.
I agree that successive governments have been pathetic but Fabian’s have been planning this since 1884. The long march through the institutions is complete. The judiciary, NHS, Police, academia, media, entertainment industry, civil service and even the National Trust, all captured by this vile ideology.
Fri Jun 12, 2026 3:39 pm
CF64 BLUE wrote:Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:montyblue wrote:Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.
Our politicians and judiciary are on a completely different page to the general public.
Lord hermer and his fabian lot are running this country starmer is the face of them.
Current government have to take some of the blame of course but it's not just them, no government in recent history have put enough pressure on the sentencing council to have more serious sentences for certain crimes.
One of the first things this government had no choice but doing was releasing some offenders early because the previous government willingly allowed overcrowding in prisons which led to limited spaces. But I will concede it's debatable at best whether they released the right people early.
I agree that successive governments have been pathetic but Fabian’s have been planning this since 1884. The long march through the institutions is complete. The judiciary, NHS, Police, academia, media, entertainment industry, civil service and even the National Trust, all captured by this vile ideology.
Jock/ Monty unfortunately you're absolutely correct. Actually you have to admire the way they've slowly enabled this to happen, their old motto (a wolf in sheep's clothing) sums them up perfectly.
It will take a long time to undo all the spiders webs they have weaved.
Whether left/right/centre we'll all suffer if their final part of the plan takes off as they've planned it so well over all those years.
The only possible saving grace is that people are becoming wise to it now, 2029 will either be Labour's nemesis or their complete victory over free speech and all the other things that our fathers/grandfather's fought for.
Fri Jun 12, 2026 3:51 pm
montyblue wrote:CF64 BLUE wrote:Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:montyblue wrote:Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.
Our politicians and judiciary are on a completely different page to the general public.
Lord hermer and his fabian lot are running this country starmer is the face of them.
Current government have to take some of the blame of course but it's not just them, no government in recent history have put enough pressure on the sentencing council to have more serious sentences for certain crimes.
One of the first things this government had no choice but doing was releasing some offenders early because the previous government willingly allowed overcrowding in prisons which led to limited spaces. But I will concede it's debatable at best whether they released the right people early.
I agree that successive governments have been pathetic but Fabian’s have been planning this since 1884. The long march through the institutions is complete. The judiciary, NHS, Police, academia, media, entertainment industry, civil service and even the National Trust, all captured by this vile ideology.
Jock/ Monty unfortunately you're absolutely correct. Actually you have to admire the way they've slowly enabled this to happen, their old motto (a wolf in sheep's clothing) sums them up perfectly.
It will take a long time to undo all the spiders webs they have weaved.
Whether left/right/centre we'll all suffer if their final part of the plan takes off as they've planned it so well over all those years.
The only possible saving grace is that people are becoming wise to it now, 2029 will either be Labour's nemesis or their complete victory over free speech and all the other things that our fathers/grandfather's fought for.
The Fabian group
Fri Jun 12, 2026 4:25 pm
Fri Jun 12, 2026 6:47 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:montyblue wrote:CF64 BLUE wrote:Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:montyblue wrote:Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.
Our politicians and judiciary are on a completely different page to the general public.
Lord hermer and his fabian lot are running this country starmer is the face of them.
Current government have to take some of the blame of course but it's not just them, no government in recent history have put enough pressure on the sentencing council to have more serious sentences for certain crimes.
One of the first things this government had no choice but doing was releasing some offenders early because the previous government willingly allowed overcrowding in prisons which led to limited spaces. But I will concede it's debatable at best whether they released the right people early.
I agree that successive governments have been pathetic but Fabian’s have been planning this since 1884. The long march through the institutions is complete. The judiciary, NHS, Police, academia, media, entertainment industry, civil service and even the National Trust, all captured by this vile ideology.
Jock/ Monty unfortunately you're absolutely correct. Actually you have to admire the way they've slowly enabled this to happen, their old motto (a wolf in sheep's clothing) sums them up perfectly.
It will take a long time to undo all the spiders webs they have weaved.
Whether left/right/centre we'll all suffer if their final part of the plan takes off as they've planned it so well over all those years.
The only possible saving grace is that people are becoming wise to it now, 2029 will either be Labour's nemesis or their complete victory over free speech and all the other things that our fathers/grandfather's fought for.
The Fabian group
It's a think tank, that's all. Just like all parties will have think tanks associated with them.
I think some people are looking at it as having more importance than it actually does. A bit like the trade unions used to have a huge says over Labour policy but they just don't anymore.
Fri Jun 12, 2026 6:53 pm
Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:montyblue wrote:CF64 BLUE wrote:Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:montyblue wrote:Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.
Our politicians and judiciary are on a completely different page to the general public.
Lord hermer and his fabian lot are running this country starmer is the face of them.
Current government have to take some of the blame of course but it's not just them, no government in recent history have put enough pressure on the sentencing council to have more serious sentences for certain crimes.
One of the first things this government had no choice but doing was releasing some offenders early because the previous government willingly allowed overcrowding in prisons which led to limited spaces. But I will concede it's debatable at best whether they released the right people early.
I agree that successive governments have been pathetic but Fabian’s have been planning this since 1884. The long march through the institutions is complete. The judiciary, NHS, Police, academia, media, entertainment industry, civil service and even the National Trust, all captured by this vile ideology.
Jock/ Monty unfortunately you're absolutely correct. Actually you have to admire the way they've slowly enabled this to happen, their old motto (a wolf in sheep's clothing) sums them up perfectly.
It will take a long time to undo all the spiders webs they have weaved.
Whether left/right/centre we'll all suffer if their final part of the plan takes off as they've planned it so well over all those years.
The only possible saving grace is that people are becoming wise to it now, 2029 will either be Labour's nemesis or their complete victory over free speech and all the other things that our fathers/grandfather's fought for.
The Fabian group
It's a think tank, that's all. Just like all parties will have think tanks associated with them.
I think some people are looking at it as having more importance than it actually does. A bit like the trade unions used to have a huge says over Labour policy but they just don't anymore.
Far more influential than a think tank. They have pushed their ideology into every British Institution.
Fri Jun 12, 2026 7:10 pm
Jock wrote:Afsar Safi, an Afghani migrant, kidnapped and sexually assaulted a 7 year old girl. He got two and a half years in prison and is expected to be out on license after 6 months.
Reece Robinson threw stones, at a demo in Southampton and got 2 years.
This country is in a terrible place.
Fri Jun 12, 2026 8:34 pm
Sat Jun 13, 2026 8:25 am
Sat Jun 13, 2026 11:47 am
epping blue wrote:I see those responsible for the arms factory attack in Bristol have been jailed. The individual who hit the police officer with a sledge hammer got 7years 8 months for GBH. I thought he got off lightly given there's a fair chance that if you hit someone with a sledgehammer you'll kill them. John McDonald and Zac Polanski both think he didn't deserve to be jailed ! Both of these could yet play a role in shaping our next government given the significant possibility of hard left coalition.
Sat Jun 13, 2026 11:52 am
epping blue wrote:I see those responsible for the arms factory attack in Bristol have been jailed. The individual who hit the police officer with a sledge hammer got 7years 8 months for GBH. I thought he got off lightly given there's a fair chance that if you hit someone with a sledgehammer you'll kill them. John McDonald and Zac Polanski both think he didn't deserve to be jailed ! Both of these could yet play a role in shaping our next government given the significant possibility of hard left coalition.
Sat Jun 13, 2026 12:56 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:epping blue wrote:I see those responsible for the arms factory attack in Bristol have been jailed. The individual who hit the police officer with a sledge hammer got 7years 8 months for GBH. I thought he got off lightly given there's a fair chance that if you hit someone with a sledgehammer you'll kill them. John McDonald and Zac Polanski both think he didn't deserve to be jailed ! Both of these could yet play a role in shaping our next government given the significant possibility of hard left coalition.
Won't happen. The Greens and Labour have very different views, the Greens leader is way way to the left of us - whoever the new Labour leader is. Labour will never team up with the Greens while he's leader. I know this because I'm actually involved in the party, so not basing it off speculation.
Also, John McDonnell won't be involved in any cabinet.
Don't forget that Labour prescribed Palestine Action a terrorist organisation (right decision) and the Greens didn't like that.
Sat Jun 13, 2026 3:14 pm
Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:montyblue wrote:Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:I do agree, something wrong when sentences go like that.
Our politicians and judiciary are on a completely different page to the general public.
Lord hermer and his fabian lot are running this country starmer is the face of them.
Current government have to take some of the blame of course but it's not just them, no government in recent history have put enough pressure on the sentencing council to have more serious sentences for certain crimes.
One of the first things this government had no choice but doing was releasing some offenders early because the previous government willingly allowed overcrowding in prisons which led to limited spaces. But I will concede it's debatable at best whether they released the right people early.
I agree that successive governments have been pathetic but Fabian’s have been planning this since 1884. The long march through the institutions is complete. The judiciary, NHS, Police, academia, media, entertainment industry, civil service and even the National Trust, all captured by this vile ideology.
Sat Jun 13, 2026 9:17 pm
Sat Jun 13, 2026 9:23 pm
Cardiff_CPT wrote:Restore Party with Rupert Lowe is our best bet. Look into him on social media, he's doing really good things
Sat Jun 13, 2026 11:08 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Cardiff_CPT wrote:Restore Party with Rupert Lowe is our best bet. Look into him on social media, he's doing really good things
Obviously not my type of politics and don't agree with a lot of what they say but I wouldn't be surprised to see them do very, very well at the next election.
They're building very quickly and with an election probably 2/3 years away, they could be in a very strong position by then.
When I've been up in the Makerfield constituency lately, I've seen that they have large numbers in volunteers. They'll probably be third in that by-election but that's progress for them, they'd probably be pleased with that given the short amount of time they've been going.