OT: PLAID CYMRU EDGING REFORM IN SENEDD

Currently, it’s looking likely that Plaid Cymru will have the largest representation in the Senedd, but not the majority

Interesting times ahead and the new question is ‘do you think there will be a deal between Plaid Cymru and Welsh Labour to ensure that the next Welsh Government can function with a majority of some sort?’

Personally, I think ‘something’ will be done in order to subdue Reform influence

Im glad its all, over i wasnt bothered who won as it will make no difference to my daily life as whoever is in charge doesnt give to shits about the common people at least now we can all get back to focusing on what really matters, pre season transfer rumours

They would have done a deal even if reform had the most seats

A number if people I spoke to voted Plaid to try to keep Reform out of the Senedd.
It has worked!
However, Farrage looks set to be the next Westminster prime minister!

Reform did not want to run wales while labour are in power in Westminster
they would not help reform in wales plaid need labour now just a switch of power the same status quote only they are the boss now.

As I've repeatedly said, it's none of my business because I don't live in Wales but this is the result I would have wanted - given it's been clear for a long time that Labour were going to be nowhere near competitive.

New boss same as the old boss
Except in Welsh

Labour and Plaid: two cheeks of the same arse. Oh dear...no change then. Except perhaps the pursuit of independence.

Labour and Plaid: two cheeks of the same arse. Oh dear...no change then. Except perhaps the pursuit of independence.

That's exactly what they'll do bang the independence drum. Ask Westminster for more money be told no and then blame them for everything, there will be money for trees in Africa and probably a load of cycle lanes though

Let's see how well the leader of PLAID gets on now with getting reparations for HS2, he has banged on about it for long enough even though Westminster said F off your getting nothing to late our in wales ,his first test for me.

Sadly yes so same old Labour policies that have stunted Wales for decades.

34 Reform opposition MP'S will make some noise .

Ooh I bet this stings on here

Labour forgot their roots.
Political party started by unions and working class people for the unions and the working class people.

So the working class people voted em out...

But some voted for Reform?

A Party who want to prevent minimum wage rises and limit benifits which help working class people.
Or Abolish Equality and certain policies that trade unions have been fighting for...


Couldnt make it up

Not worried about plaid asking for independence.. more. Worried about England forcing independence on wales

Labour forgot their roots.
Political party started by unions and working class people for the unions and the working class people.

So the working class people voted em out...

But some voted for Reform?

A Party who want to prevent minimum wage rises and limit benifits which help working class people.
Or Abolish Equality and certain policies that trade unions have been fighting for...


Couldnt make it up

Yep , its crazy

At least now there is a counter balance to the dominance of left wing policies. Like it or not, many in Wales have right of centre opinions but minimal representation over the last 27 years. When was the last time we had something like this with a proper actual opposition? Rather than parties that do what labour say..

At least now there is a counter balance to the dominance of left wing policies. Like it or not, many in Wales have right of centre opinions but minimal representation over the last 27 years. When was the last time we had something like this with a proper actual opposition? Rather than parties that do what labour say..

Well said. Wales has been a one party state for 27 years and that is completely undemocratic. Not any more though, Plaid will not be steamrolling any frivolous, money wasting, virtue signalling vanity projects through the Senedd without some serious opposition.

Labour forgot their roots.
Political party started by unions and working class people for the unions and the working class people.

So the working class people voted em out...

But some voted for Reform?

A Party who want to prevent minimum wage rises and limit benifits which help working class people.
Or Abolish Equality and certain policies that trade unions have been fighting for...


Couldnt make it up

How would Reform reduce equality?

Wales just voted sideways to plaid and yet another left wing party. In my view wales just wasn't brave enough and now the demographics of wales could change dramatically.
Plaid at some point will want a referendum on independence.
Independent wales sounds great but our country is bust living public services and money from England.
The doors are still open to imagination and our school and universities open to indoctrination of our children.
So really nothing has changed from labour in my eyes

At least reform got a load of seats thats the only saving grace in my opinion

Watching the results I thought I was watching Eurovision.
A arrange, PR system to say the least.

Reposted here: If Labour prop up the largest party we have not moved forward at all.

"Well, the Welsh people have spoken in an historic Welsh election.

Well done to Plaid Cymru on winning the most seats, I hope they can actually turn around the demise of Wales, I really do.

Fantastic result for Reform, it was great to see in my constituency (Gwynedd Maldwyn) we gained 2 seats with Plaid taking the other 4..........Labour not even on the map with 5% of the vote share.

But the biggest story of the election was the total collapse of a party that has Governed Wales for the last 27 years, and never lost an election in Wales in over 100 years! That, my friends, is a seismic shift.

Essentially, there are now only 2 real parties in Wales.....please vote responsibly. "

Well it's literally all over bar the shouting!! Plaid minority government which whilst not seeking a full formal coalition with Labour - which let's be fair would be a direct kick in the guts for people who voted Plaid as a protest against Labour - will undoubtedly be doing "cloak and dagger" deals with Labour behind the scenes to totally isolate Reform from any involvement in governmental decisions in Wales and not give them any opportunity to become more popular in the short term. The biggest danger to Reform's support in Wales IMHO isn't Plaid or Welsh Labour, it is the actions and results achieved from now on in the 12 councils now won by Reform in England and the individual actions of the 1,000+ new Reform councillors voted in.

To date Reform has not had anything like the opportunities in power to deliver ,as they have now won. Where they have, the results in terms of Reform councillors voted into seats - there has been 80+ resignations, sackings, walk outs and defections to other parties. In the few councils they have previously won control, they have not delivered on the promises made. The promised council tax cuts have not materialised, in fact the opposite has happened. Councils like Kent and Worcester have gone through and are still in a nightmare under Reform control. Now they have power in 12 English councils and a 1,000+ councillors in office and they are directly in the limelight of public scrutiny to an extent they have never previously been. If we get any repeat in terms of the actions of Reform councillors and delivery on promises made which mirrors what has happened in the lead up to these new wins, then the effect on Reform support both in England and Wales will significant - of course the opposite is also true but it appears that in the couple of days that have passed since the elections; we have already seen the demise of 3 newly elected Reform councillors - one decided being a councillor was not for him (and he hadn't picked up a pen yet) and went on holiday instead, one was kicked out of his seat for "pre-election irregularities" and the third has just left the country an no ne knows his whereabouts!!

Over to you Reform - as the old saying goes - it's now time to "put your money where your mouth is"!!

More socalist nonsense.

Hard working families funding and struggling whilst we pay for the avalanche of migration .

1 in 6 migrants now claim universal credit.

Wales needs its money to provide health and education.

Reform must be the fastest growth party ever to be seen politics .

I should imagine in these uncertain times being the main opposition has it's merits,especially as the bigger goal is a General Election victory.

Plaid will.be no different to Labour.

It will likely be the same due to restrictions from Westminster because we aren’t independent from them.

That will be Plaids next election goals, and saying it will benefit them to use money better. There is literally zero data to suggest it either way.

There’s never been a power other than Labour in Wales, so to suggest it will just be Labour 2.0 is also a bit pie in the sky. They have a history of supporting Labour, but that’s always been from a 3rd placed stance, which no party will have any control in that position.

I don’t expect much if anything to change, it’s politics at the end of the day, Reform wouldn’t change much either. If things get less of a shit show then it’s an improvement, if people voted reform to stop immigration they need to do a bit of research into what these elections and the senydd can actually do

Well it's literally all over bar the shouting!! Plaid minority government which whilst not seeking a full formal coalition with Labour - which let's be fair would be a direct kick in the guts for people who voted Plaid as a protest against Labour - will undoubtedly be doing "cloak and dagger" deals with Labour behind the scenes to totally isolate Reform from any involvement in governmental decisions in Wales and not give them any opportunity to become more popular in the short term. The biggest danger to Reform's support in Wales IMHO isn't Plaid or Welsh Labour, it is the actions and results achieved from now on in the 12 councils now won by Reform in England and the individual actions of the 1,000+ new Reform councillors voted in.

To date Reform has not had anything like the opportunities in power to deliver ,as they have now won. Where they have, the results in terms of Reform councillors voted into seats - there has been 80+ resignations, sackings, walk outs and defections to other parties. In the few councils they have previously won control, they have not delivered on the promises made. The promised council tax cuts have not materialised, in fact the opposite has happened. Councils like Kent and Worcester have gone through and are still in a nightmare under Reform control. Now they have power in 12 English councils and a 1,000+ councillors in office and they are directly in the limelight of public scrutiny to an extent they have never previously been. If we get any repeat in terms of the actions of Reform councillors and delivery on promises made which mirrors what has happened in the lead up to these new wins, then the effect on Reform support both in England and Wales will significant - of course the opposite is also true but it appears that in the couple of days that have passed since the elections; we have already seen the demise of 3 newly elected Reform councillors - one decided being a councillor was not for him (and he hadn't picked up a pen yet) and went on holiday instead, one was kicked out of his seat for "pre-election irregularities" and the third has just left the country an no ne knows his whereabouts!!

Over to you Reform - as the old saying goes - it's now time to "put your money where your mouth is"!!

Well done Plaid in keeping out reform

Get rid of starmer in westminster next