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Wasn’t that a sell out for Wrexham??

What are the parameters that define size of a club?

Wrexham’s turnover is a lot higher than ours is.

If Wrexham had a stadium with our capacity. Would they have bigger crowds on a regular basis? I think they would.

If Wrexham had a stadium with our capacity. Would they have bigger crowds on a regular basis? I think they would.

I don't think they would yes they are riding a wave at the moment but once that bubble pops they will be back down to tiny crowds again where as we are in the worse position we have been in for a quarter of a century and are still averaging 20k

For me if you want to judge the size of a club look at them at there lowest not when they are in the best position in the club's history

If Wrexham had a stadium with our capacity. Would they have bigger crowds on a regular basis? I think they would.

100% They would not.

Most of their area Support Everton big time, Liverpool and Man United

If Wrexham had a stadium with our capacity. Would they have bigger crowds on a regular basis? I think they would.

I think not..

If Wrexham had a stadium with our capacity. Would they have bigger crowds on a regular basis? I think they would.

I think not..

It's a tiny catchment area with Liverpool on the doorstep the entirety of Wrexham is about 45k how on earth are these claims being taken seriously

Some on here still haven't been to bed yet

If Wrexham had a stadium with our capacity. Would they have bigger crowds on a regular basis? I think they would.

I think not..

It's a tiny catchment area with Liverpool on the doorstep the entirety of Wrexham is about 45k how on earth are these claims being taken seriously

At the moment they have the Hollywood edge. People from across the globe want to go and see a Wrexham game just because of their owners and what they’ve done. Not that they’re actually fans of Wrexham. It won’t last forever but for now I think they would draw more of a crowd than us.

They are much smaller in stadium size and catchment area. But now due to the yanks they are a better footballing side. If the yanks are in it for the long term and develope the team / stadium, we'll be really playing catch up

They are much smaller in stadium size and catchment area. But now due to the yanks they are a better footballing side. If the yanks are in it for the long term and develope the team / stadium, we'll be really playing catch up

A better footballing side? - we played them off the park away from home only a couple of months ago.

They are much smaller in stadium size and catchment area. But now due to the yanks they are a better footballing side. If the yanks are in it for the long term and develope the team / stadium, we'll be really playing catch up

Judging on their performance against Chelsea with 10 men for a period of the game they could well get promotion to the Prem, I would then rate them bigger than us on at least a temporary basis.
With both them and the scum having well known personalities amongst their shareholders atm we may be lacking a bit with only chairman Tan and the two stooges for us to boast about.

Wasn’t that a sell out for Wrexham??

What are the parameters that define size of a club?

Wrexham’s turnover is a lot higher than ours is.

In (begrudging) defence of Wrexham Phoenix, their ground is reduced in capacity, as the new stand is being built

The ‘Jealous Jacks’ have no such excuse and their ‘support’ is/was based on two games a season, so their numbers will be back up again (for at least the one game) when we return to the Championship

Wasn’t that a sell out for Wrexham??

What are the parameters that define size of a club?

Wrexham’s turnover is a lot higher than ours is.

In (begrudging) defence of Wrexham Phoenix, their ground is reduced in capacity, as the new stand is being built

The ‘Jealous Jacks’ have no such excuse and their ‘support’ is/was based on two games a season, so their numbers will be back up again (for at least the one game) when we return to the Championship

I think there are a lot of parameters that would show Wrexham are bigger than us at the moment sadly.

To me it's history, fan base and potential, like Sheff Weds are still bigger than Bournemouth.
Think Wrexham's highest even finish in the football league is around 17th in whats now the championship, tin pot.

Wasn’t that a sell out for Wrexham??

What are the parameters that define size of a club?

Wrexham’s turnover is a lot higher than ours is.

In (begrudging) defence of Wrexham Phoenix, their ground is reduced in capacity, as the new stand is being built

The ‘Jealous Jacks’ have no such excuse and their ‘support’ is/was based on two games a season, so their numbers will be back up again (for at least the one game) when we return to the Championship

I think there are a lot of parameters that would show Wrexham are bigger than us at the moment sadly.

Agree; but when everything is taken into account, Cardiff City FC is still the ‘biggest’ team in Wales! We just need to get back to being no.1 in Wales; something the ‘Jacks’ thought they’d temporarily have this season but Wrexham even took that away from them!

I wouldn't worry, they are all making this statement because there wish list, they hope they were bigger than Cardiff.
We will be back in the Championship soon enough & without any investment,we done it by bringing our under 21s through, wrexham and Disney have invested heavily, the difference is if we can keep hold of our current players and add a few in the summer we will hold our own.
Cardiff have progressed so much, we are are in a totally position now.

From the inter web

1. Financial Metrics

Annual Revenue: This includes income from ticket sales, sponsorships, broadcasting rights, and merchandise.
Operating Income: Profit generated from football-related activities.
Market Valuation: Overall value of the club based on financial performance and brand value.
2. Squad Size and Composition

Number of Players: Typically, a professional squad consists of around 25-30 players.
Youth Development: Investments in youth academies and the number of academy graduates in the first team.
Player Salaries: Average salary per player and total payroll.
3. Fan Base and Support

Attendance Figures: Average matchday attendance and stadium capacity, with many top clubs boasting capacities of 50,000-100,000.
Global Reach: Social media followers and engagement metrics indicating international popularity.
Membership Numbers: The size of official club memberships.
4. Performance Metrics

League Position: The club's standing in its respective league, including historical performance in domestic and international competitions.
Trophies Won: Number and prestige of titles; for example, UEFA Champions League, domestic leagues, and cups.
5. Facilities and Infrastructure

Stadium: Quality, capacity, and commercial possibilities of the club's home ground.
Training Facilities: State-of-the-art training complexes that enhance player development and fitness.
6. Brand and Marketing

Sponsorship Deals: Value and number of sponsorship agreements with brands and corporations.
Merchandising: Sales volume and popularity of club-branded merchandise.
7. Geographical Influence

Local and Global Market Presence: Presence in national and international markets while influencing local communities.
Development Goals: Community initiatives and engagement with fans.

They are much smaller in stadium size and catchment area. But now due to the yanks they are a better footballing side. If the yanks are in it for the long term and develope the team / stadium, we'll be really playing catch up

Judging on their performance against Chelsea with 10 men for a period of the game they could well get promotion to the Prem, I would then rate them bigger than us on at least a temporary basis.
With both them and the scum having well known personalities amongst their shareholders atm we may be lacking a bit with only chairman Tan and the two stooges for us to boast about.

Until they can pull in 20k a week they are minnows. What the fame of the owners has to do with it I don't know

Swansea’s support is truly awful. The biggest turnout was for snoop dog attending, and I only think half them went for the free towel. Wrexham have never been massively supported due to Liverpool, Everton, and Man U not far away. I definitely think they have potential to increase their attendances if they tap into north wales more, expand the stadium, and reach the premiership. I don’t think they will ever get massive crowds though, and definitely not on a consistent basis.

Swansea’s support is truly awful. The biggest turnout was for snoop dog attending, and I only think half them went for the free towel. Wrexham have never been massively supported due to Liverpool, Everton, and Man U not far away. I definitely think they have potential to increase their attendances if they tap into north wales more, expand the stadium, and reach the premiership. I don’t think they will ever get massive crowds though, and definitely not on a consistent basis.

Define massive crowds?

Nor do we.