OT: NADHIM ZAHAWI JOINS ‘REFORM UK’

Former Chancellor Nadhim Zahawi has become the latest senior Conservative to defect to Reform UK, as Tories claim the move came after he was rebuffed for a peerage.

Zahawi, who is a former MP, said he felt the UK had reached a "dark and dangerous" moment, and the country needed “a glorious revolution", as he outlined why he was joining Nigel Farage's party.

However, Conservative chairman Kevin Hollinrake said the move came after he made "a number of approaches" to party leader Kemi Badenoch, pressing his case to be nominated for the House of Lords, but was rejected.

Farage unveiled Zahawi's defection at a press conference on Monday, one of around 20 former Tory MPs to join the party.

I’m genuinely shocked by this; particularly with Farage and the Reform UK party, who must surely know people want change, not ‘more of the same’ garbage that has come from both ‘main’ parties in recent times!

Zahawi is an ‘opportunist’ in the extreme, a sycophant, who is put fur no one but himself! He’s been rejected by the Tories, denied the peerage only he believes he deserves, and is seeking to re-access the ‘gravy train’ by joining the man he publicly slated in the past!

The only person on a par with Zahawi, is Labour’s David Lammy!

The ‘Establishment’, including senior civil servants, are already pooling together to keep Farage at bay, so why would they engage with someone who played a heavy hand in the last Government’s mid-management and decline?

Baffling indeed!

Another rat on the take and in the trough

I’m genuinely shocked by this; particularly with Farage and the Reform UK party, who must surely know people want change, not ‘more of the same’ garbage that has come from both ‘main’ parties in recent times!

Zahawi is an ‘opportunist’ in the extreme, a sycophant, who is put fur no one but himself! He’s been rejected by the Tories, denied the peerage only he believes he deserves, and is seeking to re-access the ‘gravy train’ by joining the man he publicly slated in the past!

The only person on a par with Zahawi, is Labour’s David Lammy!

The ‘Establishment’, including senior civil servants, are already pooling together to keep Farage at bay, so why would they engage with someone who played a heavy hand in the last Government’s mid-management and decline?

Baffling indeed!

Yep. i've started to question Reform of late. They had my votes due to my total dislike of the Tories and labour. It now feels to me I will be voting for more of the same. No thanks.

Not a good move to bring him into the fold, especially if the reports about him asking Badenoch for a peerage and being refused are true. Sacked for tax issues so obviously not a great character.

But don't think it will stop them winning the next election. Labour don't have a hope of being re-elected and the Tories have some crazy ideas.

So think it's a foregone conclusion that Reform will win, whenever it is. I'll vote for Labour out of loyalty but will be lucky to be third biggest party as it stands.

But I've said for a while that they don't represent the "change" that they say. It will always be more of the same. We've heard the promises of change from both mainstream and non-mainstream parties before and it never happens. Not seen any evidence yet that Reform represent any real change.

Politics stinks.
We need to revert to a Monarchy, if they let us down we behead them.

Not a good move to bring him into the fold, especially if the reports about him asking Badenoch for a peerage and being refused are true. Sacked for tax issues so obviously not a great character.

But don't think it will stop them winning the next election. Labour don't have a hope of being re-elected and the Tories have some crazy ideas.

So think it's a foregone conclusion that Reform will win, whenever it is. I'll vote for Labour out of loyalty but will be lucky to be third biggest party as it stands.

But I've said for a while that they don't represent the "change" that they say. It will always be more of the same. We've heard the promises of change from both mainstream and non-mainstream parties before and it never happens. Not seen any evidence yet that Reform represent any real change.

I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to politics but I agree with your points that Zahawi isn't a great move by Reform and that Reform looks odds on the win the next election ATM.

Can I ask you a couple of questions regards you voting Labour again out of loyalty.

1. Are you happy with this current labour government?
2. Do you think this labour government is right for the future of the UK?

Loyalty is great when it comes to sport, friends, family etc but when it comes to our livelihood, health, economy, borders, heritage, education, money etc, loyalty goes out the window as far as I'm concerned.

If everyone who voted labour last time does the same next time out of loyalty, we are f@#ked.

Politics stinks.
We need to revert to a Monarchy, if they let us down we behead them.

Not a good move to bring him into the fold, especially if the reports about him asking Badenoch for a peerage and being refused are true. Sacked for tax issues so obviously not a great character.

But don't think it will stop them winning the next election. Labour don't have a hope of being re-elected and the Tories have some crazy ideas.

So think it's a foregone conclusion that Reform will win, whenever it is. I'll vote for Labour out of loyalty but will be lucky to be third biggest party as it stands.

But I've said for a while that they don't represent the "change" that they say. It will always be more of the same. We've heard the promises of change from both mainstream and non-mainstream parties before and it never happens. Not seen any evidence yet that Reform represent any real change.

I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to politics but I agree with your points that Zahawi isn't a great move by Reform and that Reform looks odds on the win the next election ATM.

Can I ask you a couple of questions regards you voting Labour again out of loyalty.

1. Are you happy with this current labour government?
2. Do you think this labour government is right for the future of the UK?

Loyalty is great when it comes to sport, friends, family etc but when it comes to our livelihood, health, economy, borders, heritage, education, money etc, loyalty goes out the window as far as I'm concerned.

If everyone who voted labour last time does the same next time out of loyalty, we are f@#ked.

Is the current government serving the country well? No they're not. That's obvious. They've managed to do even worse than the five years that preceded them.

I remain a member of the party though because I always have hope things will improve (purely out of loyalty), probably not much chance of that happening in this cycle though - even when the PM is inevitably replaced in the summer.

But as a member, I will vote for them again. Just not sure I could vote for another party and always believed in people using their vote so wouldn't not vote.

Most won't be like me, the vast majority will vote for another party which I fully understand and they'll be right to (unless they vote Green, that bloke terrifies me).

Doesn't even take a huge amount to not vote Labour because the winning vote share was so small in the last election. But a huge amount it will be that will vote elsewhere.

That's why I say the party will be lucky to be third. Not a hope of even being close to winning.

I don't see real change coming from another party but it won't be difficult for them to do a better job than Labour.

Not a good move to bring him into the fold, especially if the reports about him asking Badenoch for a peerage and being refused are true. Sacked for tax issues so obviously not a great character.

But don't think it will stop them winning the next election. Labour don't have a hope of being re-elected and the Tories have some crazy ideas.

So think it's a foregone conclusion that Reform will win, whenever it is. I'll vote for Labour out of loyalty but will be lucky to be third biggest party as it stands.

But I've said for a while that they don't represent the "change" that they say. It will always be more of the same. We've heard the promises of change from both mainstream and non-mainstream parties before and it never happens. Not seen any evidence yet that Reform represent any real change.

I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to politics but I agree with your points that Zahawi isn't a great move by Reform and that Reform looks odds on the win the next election ATM.

Can I ask you a couple of questions regards you voting Labour again out of loyalty.

1. Are you happy with this current labour government?
2. Do you think this labour government is right for the future of the UK?

Loyalty is great when it comes to sport, friends, family etc but when it comes to our livelihood, health, economy, borders, heritage, education, money etc, loyalty goes out the window as far as I'm concerned.

If everyone who voted labour last time does the same next time out of loyalty, we are f@#ked.

Is the current government serving the country well? No they're not. That's obvious. They've managed to do even worse than the five years that preceded them.

I remain a member of the party though because I always have hope things will improve (purely out of loyalty), probably not much chance of that happening in this cycle though - even when the PM is inevitably replaced in the summer.

But as a member, I will vote for them again. Just not sure I could vote for another party and always believed in people using their vote so wouldn't not vote.

Most won't be like me, the vast majority will vote for another party which I fully understand and they'll be right to (unless they vote Green, that bloke terrifies me).

Doesn't even take a huge amount to not vote Labour because the winning vote share was so small in the last election. But a huge amount it will be that will vote elsewhere.

That's why I say the party will be lucky to be third. Not a hope of even being close to winning.

I don't see real change coming from another party but it won't be difficult for them to do a better job than Labour.

Labour used to be the party of the working class, now they’re the party of middle class public sector skivers and the metropolitan elite. At this moment in time, I’ll be voting Reform but don’t think Farage will be our saviour. However the benefits bill will have to be lowered and illegal migration stopped. Otherwise, no matter who’s in charge, the country’s finished.

Not a good move to bring him into the fold, especially if the reports about him asking Badenoch for a peerage and being refused are true. Sacked for tax issues so obviously not a great character.

But don't think it will stop them winning the next election. Labour don't have a hope of being re-elected and the Tories have some crazy ideas.

So think it's a foregone conclusion that Reform will win, whenever it is. I'll vote for Labour out of loyalty but will be lucky to be third biggest party as it stands.

But I've said for a while that they don't represent the "change" that they say. It will always be more of the same. We've heard the promises of change from both mainstream and non-mainstream parties before and it never happens. Not seen any evidence yet that Reform represent any real change.

I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to politics but I agree with your points that Zahawi isn't a great move by Reform and that Reform looks odds on the win the next election ATM.

Can I ask you a couple of questions regards you voting Labour again out of loyalty.

1. Are you happy with this current labour government?
2. Do you think this labour government is right for the future of the UK?

Loyalty is great when it comes to sport, friends, family etc but when it comes to our livelihood, health, economy, borders, heritage, education, money etc, loyalty goes out the window as far as I'm concerned.

If everyone who voted labour last time does the same next time out of loyalty, we are f@#ked.

Is the current government serving the country well? No they're not. That's obvious. They've managed to do even worse than the five years that preceded them.

I remain a member of the party though because I always have hope things will improve (purely out of loyalty), probably not much chance of that happening in this cycle though - even when the PM is inevitably replaced in the summer.

But as a member, I will vote for them again. Just not sure I could vote for another party and always believed in people using their vote so wouldn't not vote.

Most won't be like me, the vast majority will vote for another party which I fully understand and they'll be right to (unless they vote Green, that bloke terrifies me).

Doesn't even take a huge amount to not vote Labour because the winning vote share was so small in the last election. But a huge amount it will be that will vote elsewhere.

That's why I say the party will be lucky to be third. Not a hope of even being close to winning.

I don't see real change coming from another party but it won't be difficult for them to do a better job than Labour.

Thanks Ned.

That's fair enough. We all have a vote to do with what we see fit.

I agree with you on the green party, if they get in I'm emigrating.

Not a good move to bring him into the fold, especially if the reports about him asking Badenoch for a peerage and being refused are true. Sacked for tax issues so obviously not a great character.

But don't think it will stop them winning the next election. Labour don't have a hope of being re-elected and the Tories have some crazy ideas.

So think it's a foregone conclusion that Reform will win, whenever it is. I'll vote for Labour out of loyalty but will be lucky to be third biggest party as it stands.

But I've said for a while that they don't represent the "change" that they say. It will always be more of the same. We've heard the promises of change from both mainstream and non-mainstream parties before and it never happens. Not seen any evidence yet that Reform represent any real change.

I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to politics but I agree with your points that Zahawi isn't a great move by Reform and that Reform looks odds on the win the next election ATM.

Can I ask you a couple of questions regards you voting Labour again out of loyalty.

1. Are you happy with this current labour government?
2. Do you think this labour government is right for the future of the UK?

Loyalty is great when it comes to sport, friends, family etc but when it comes to our livelihood, health, economy, borders, heritage, education, money etc, loyalty goes out the window as far as I'm concerned.

If everyone who voted labour last time does the same next time out of loyalty, we are f@#ked.

Is the current government serving the country well? No they're not. That's obvious. They've managed to do even worse than the five years that preceded them.

I remain a member of the party though because I always have hope things will improve (purely out of loyalty), probably not much chance of that happening in this cycle though - even when the PM is inevitably replaced in the summer.

But as a member, I will vote for them again. Just not sure I could vote for another party and always believed in people using their vote so wouldn't not vote.

Most won't be like me, the vast majority will vote for another party which I fully understand and they'll be right to (unless they vote Green, that bloke terrifies me).

Doesn't even take a huge amount to not vote Labour because the winning vote share was so small in the last election. But a huge amount it will be that will vote elsewhere.

That's why I say the party will be lucky to be third. Not a hope of even being close to winning.

I don't see real change coming from another party but it won't be difficult for them to do a better job than Labour.

Thanks Ned.

That's fair enough. We all have a vote to do with what we see fit.

I agree with you on the green party, if they get in I'm emigrating.

Labour are doing and saying anything to try and save their voting pool ,they have been caught out big time, starmer is such a lying hypocrite he must really hate Britain,the problem reform has got they have grown so quick it's down to pure numbers of people they can get for candidates in the time frame,I'll be voting reform to have some common sense, just think about it for a moment we have had to have a supreme court to decide what a woman is because starmer didn't know FFS,and if he can't see that letting migrants in this country coming from places where they see woman as objects that they can do what they want to them isn't going to cause any problems is baffling, Nigel farage has always carried out the things he says he is going to do ,you know he will stop the boats etc ,

Labour is just the London party at this point. Reform are going to replace the Tory party completely and will want to court what's left of the Tory vote so bringing in "respectable" former Tories will happen. Not sure it's the smartest move as it's not the change any working class person wants

Respectable
Multi-milionaire Nadhim Zahawi, who was sacked from government for failing to declare his tax affairs were being investigated, has also previously said he would be frightened to live in a country run by Mr Farage. After his defection was announced, the Tories claimed Mr Zahawi had repeatedly asked for - and been refused - a peerage from his old party
I'm waiting for the lettace to join Reform

Labour are doing and saying anything to try and save their voting pool ,they have been caught out big time, starmer is such a lying hypocrite he must really hate Britain,the problem reform has got they have grown so quick it's down to pure numbers of people they can get for candidates in the time frame,I'll be voting reform to have some common sense, just think about it for a moment we have had to have a supreme court to decide what a woman is because starmer didn't know FFS,and if he can't see that letting migrants in this country coming from places where they see woman as objects that they can do what they want to them isn't going to cause any problems is baffling, Nigel farage has always carried out the things he says he is going to do ,you know he will stop the boats etc ,

Labour are doing and saying anything to try and save their voting pool ,they have been caught out big time, starmer is such a lying hypocrite he must really hate Britain,the problem reform has got they have grown so quick it's down to pure numbers of people they can get for candidates in the time frame,I'll be voting reform to have some common sense, just think about it for a moment we have had to have a supreme court to decide what a woman is because starmer didn't know FFS,and if he can't see that letting migrants in this country coming from places where they see woman as objects that they can do what they want to them isn't going to cause any problems is baffling, Nigel farage has always carried out the things he says he is going to do ,you know he will stop the boats etc ,

Ah yes Farage the trusted one haha ridiculous .

Perhaps reform will deport zahawi when they get into power shh don' t tell him.

Perhaps reform will deport zahawi when they get into power shh don' t tell him.

Why?

The next GE will be decided by which Party tells the least lies about mass immigration. The elephant.

Reform have got more in January than Us - But then again their not under an embargo

Perhaps reform will deport zahawi when they get into power shh don' t tell him.

Why would they deport him, did he throw his documents in the channel, when he arrived on a dinghy. The faux left are desperately conflating culture and skin colour, in a desperate bid to brand Reform supporters as racist.

Labour are doing and saying anything to try and save their voting pool ,they have been caught out big time, starmer is such a lying hypocrite he must really hate Britain,the problem reform has got they have grown so quick it's down to pure numbers of people they can get for candidates in the time frame,I'll be voting reform to have some common sense, just think about it for a moment we have had to have a supreme court to decide what a woman is because starmer didn't know FFS,and if he can't see that letting migrants in this country coming from places where they see woman as objects that they can do what they want to them isn't going to cause any problems is baffling, Nigel farage has always carried out the things he says he is going to do ,you know he will stop the boats etc ,

Ah yes Farage the trusted one haha ridiculous .

Why is it ridiculous?

And who do you trust to run our country?

Labour are doing and saying anything to try and save their voting pool ,they have been caught out big time, starmer is such a lying hypocrite he must really hate Britain,the problem reform has got they have grown so quick it's down to pure numbers of people they can get for candidates in the time frame,I'll be voting reform to have some common sense, just think about it for a moment we have had to have a supreme court to decide what a woman is because starmer didn't know FFS,and if he can't see that letting migrants in this country coming from places where they see woman as objects that they can do what they want to them isn't going to cause any problems is baffling, Nigel farage has always carried out the things he says he is going to do ,you know he will stop the boats etc ,

Ah yes Farage the trusted one haha ridiculous .

Why is it ridiculous?

And who do you trust to run our country?

Don’t trust any of them but certainly not a man with a recent history of lies and deceit.

Labour are doing and saying anything to try and save their voting pool ,they have been caught out big time, starmer is such a lying hypocrite he must really hate Britain,the problem reform has got they have grown so quick it's down to pure numbers of people they can get for candidates in the time frame,I'll be voting reform to have some common sense, just think about it for a moment we have had to have a supreme court to decide what a woman is because starmer didn't know FFS,and if he can't see that letting migrants in this country coming from places where they see woman as objects that they can do what they want to them isn't going to cause any problems is baffling, Nigel farage has always carried out the things he says he is going to do ,you know he will stop the boats etc ,

Ah yes Farage the trusted one haha ridiculous .

Why is it ridiculous?

And who do you trust to run our country?

Don’t trust any of them but certainly not a man with a recent history of lies and deceit.

I've never trusted any politician but I think this country is now at a historical stage where we need a different direction from where the main two parties have been deliberately taking us and I think reform are Britain's last chance of surviving and staying British.

Reform; becoming a party of tory rejects.
I certainly won't look at them now!

Reform; becoming a party of tory rejects.
I certainly won't look at them now!

Maybe this is now the time to ‘look at Reform’?

Question: Are the people ‘jumping ship’, doing so for the right reasons, and does Nigel Farage see ‘value’ in their views and experiences?

It’s a huge question, but elsewhere, I don’t see the other parties changing their inward looking ‘values’ in order to look after the legitimate ‘people’ of the UK!

We are as a nation, nearing ‘boiling point’, which is what some are striving for, going on their words/actions of recent times!

I haven’t decided who will get my vote in any of the next local, Senedd, or Parliamentary elections, as I worry about aspects of all of them!

But what I can tell you 100%, is that it won’t be the Labour Party at any level!

For the ‘party of the people’, they have been the most hollow, deceitful, disappointment since (by some irony) their ‘modern Labour’ founder, Phoney “I meant it when I said it!” B Liar!

In Wales, Labour are about to find out they have finally been ‘sussed’ by the people, and the biggest dilemma for voters, is to work out whether to ‘trust’ in Plaid Cymru’s agenda, or Reform’s?

A dilemma it is, indeed!

Sunday rant over! Have a great day everyone!

Reform; becoming a party of tory rejects.
I certainly won't look at them now!

Maybe this is now the time to ‘look at Reform’?

Question: Are the people ‘jumping ship’, doing so for the right reasons, and does Nigel Farage see ‘value’ in their views and experiences?

It’s a huge question, but elsewhere, I don’t see the other parties changing their inward looking ‘values’ in order to look after the legitimate ‘people’ of the UK!

We are as a nation, nearing ‘boiling point’, which is what some are striving for, going on their words/actions of recent times!

I haven’t decided who will get my vote in any of the next local, Senedd, or Parliamentary elections, as I worry about aspects of all of them!

But what I can tell you 100%, is that it won’t be the Labour Party at any level!

For the ‘party of the people’, they have been the most hollow, deceitful, disappointment since (by some irony) their ‘modern Labour’ founder, Phoney “I meant it when I said it!” B Liar!

In Wales, Labour are about to find out they have finally been ‘sussed’ by the people, and the biggest dilemma for voters, is to work out whether to ‘trust’ in Plaid Cymru’s agenda, or Reform’s?

A dilemma it is, indeed!

Sunday rant over! Have a great day everyone!

Question: Are the people ‘jumping ship’, doing so for the right reasons

No.

Reform; becoming a party of tory rejects.
I certainly won't look at them now!

Maybe this is now the time to ‘look at Reform’?

Question: Are the people ‘jumping ship’, doing so for the right reasons, and does Nigel Farage see ‘value’ in their views and experiences?

It’s a huge question, but elsewhere, I don’t see the other parties changing their inward looking ‘values’ in order to look after the legitimate ‘people’ of the UK!

We are as a nation, nearing ‘boiling point’, which is what some are striving for, going on their words/actions of recent times!

I haven’t decided who will get my vote in any of the next local, Senedd, or Parliamentary elections, as I worry about aspects of all of them!

But what I can tell you 100%, is that it won’t be the Labour Party at any level!

For the ‘party of the people’, they have been the most hollow, deceitful, disappointment since (by some irony) their ‘modern Labour’ founder, Phoney “I meant it when I said it!” B Liar!

In Wales, Labour are about to find out they have finally been ‘sussed’ by the people, and the biggest dilemma for voters, is to work out whether to ‘trust’ in Plaid Cymru’s agenda, or Reform’s?

A dilemma it is, indeed!

Sunday rant over! Have a great day everyone!

Question: Are the people ‘jumping ship’, doing so for the right reasons

No.

I tend to agree; particularly with regard to the topic of this thread!

However, I’m not so sure on Robert Jenrick, as he has been a one-man critic of the Conservatives from within, and seems to be the only one who has the courage to say ‘the Conservatives got it wrong’ and ‘Britain is broken’

He seems to have battled with his conscience, maybe thrown his political leadership and even MP ambitions away, to try to work with the one party that is offering a ‘different route’

I’m not convinced yet, but I am watching to see what and how things develop!

As with most, I am so disappointed in Labour. The continuation of the freeze on the tax threshold has hit many of us hard.(as originally introduced by the Tories)
Years of misery with hardly any pay increase due to austerity under the Tories.
Liberal seem rather weak and are going nowhere.
Greens are simply 'wacky'
Now it appears many are looking to Reform. The new 'Frankenstein' party ran by Farage and the failed, rejected ex-Tories.
Let's be honest, not much to choose from!!