The 12 games verdict?

Many fans (not just on here but everywhere) say they'll judge the manager after 12 league games.

Well we've now reached that point.

The facts are we are top of the league with the best goal difference.

But some may say that some performances have been below par.

So is Brian Barry-Murphy the man to take us forward?

My answer is an overwhelming yes but I've said that since day one.

I'll put it to a vote and keeping it as a simple yes or no, to keep it basic.

It's a yes from me as I've said elsewhere.

Even with the best performances imaginable we're not getting any higher than top.

Yes from me I've been in the bbm camp like yourself since day 1 and have no reason to change my stance, were bang on course to reach all pre Season objectives

We have rode our luck a bit in certain games but hes definitely the man to takes us forward

We have rode our luck a bit in certain games but hes definitely the man to takes us forward

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But ive been bbm since day 1 and top of the league how can you say he's not (as things stand)

I think at this moment in time. Yes
We are top and winning when not playing well, that's a great sign

It's a yes from me. He's a massive improvement on Bulut and the Rizler and I feel we are in safe hands.

Pros:
He's hard working
He engages with the fans
He's bought a discipline about the place
His players respect him and play for him
He can admit when he's wrong or when something doesn't work
He doesn't suffer fools lightly (I.e. Robertson)
He's not scared to make big decisions (dropping big names from the team, subbing a sub like today)
He's worked wonders with some of our youngsters
I feel he has a plan and can see a bigger picture

Cons:
Not enough variation to our play I.e. if our possession based style of play isn't working, go more direct, don't wait to be in a losing position
He can let his mantra get in the way of results
He's not quite getting the best out of Salech (yet)

Yes definitely.

We are top of the league, won games we would’ve folded in last season, he’s given youth a chance and it’s worked so far.

Are the things he needs to address yes, but no team always plays a perfect game of football.

With reinforcement in January something he will know is what we need, I can see us right up there, I don’t think we will finish outside the top six.

WE ARE TOP OF THE LEAGUE!!!

He’s learning, the team are learning, we’re learning, we’re top of the League!

Imagine once we truly get going, so it’s a big ‘YES’ from me!

BBM has done a great job, but he can't be immune to any feedback from fans, however uneducated in the modern ways they are.

Rubin, whether knackered or because the opposition has a plan for him, is becoming less and less productive each game; whatever personnel we are, we are becoming very predictable in our play. At the CCS, sacrifice an attacker for an extra central midfielder and we are stumped. All our players seem to be on the circumference rather than anyone in the middle.

We are top because of Trott. I wasn't expecting to get going until the winter months as this is a totally different style to establish, if it is establishable with L1 players.

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I am not sure. .i dont know why drops fish he seens like another tinkerman and we have only beaten one team in the top half.. and the performances of late have been poor.

I can't believe there are 5 no's as of now. What do people expect? Win every game 5-0 & be top of the table with 12 wins out of 12 games? Everybody here would have been grabbing being top of the table after 12 games with both hands before a ball was kicked.

I don't see how people can say 'NO' , we are top of the league. Yes, there is definitely need for improvement in terms of team selection and tactics sometimes. The club needs financial support to bring higher quality players in, but we all know that's not going to happen under Tan. Given the circumstances, we are doing well atm. A few injuries could change that tho. Let's keep ticking off the games and see where we are in January.

I can't believe there are 5 no's as of now. What do people expect? Win every game 5-0 & be top of the table with 12 wins out of 12 games? Everybody here would have been grabbing being top of the table after 12 games with both hands before a ball was kicked.

I am one of the 32, but the football is not everyone's cup of tea.

I described it yesterday as watching a young slugger at the STAR leisure centre on his 4th or 5th boxing match, knocking journeymen over for fun, but sitting next to a decent trainer who is looking at the lad's defense and saying he isn't going to go very far.

We are so open it's scary at the moment, we are riding our luck, but allegedly it evens out over a season. The blueprint for how to play Cardiff at the CCS seems to be on the noticeboards of all L1 clubs at the moment and we don't seem to have an answer except go behind, then go gung ho.

I am in my late 50s so I have been brought up on keeping it tight, so the openness tests all my footballing belief systems.

Quite easy Yes

it's a yes from me

my only criticism is a lot of teams seem to know how to set up against us now and that has been evident this last month or so when we have been outplayed by some very poor teams, even at home,

so I think he may need to tweak things a little bit for certain games

but we are top of the league which shows even though performances have not been as good we are still getting the results and heading in the right direction

bbm didn't seem happy with the performance yesterday which shows he wants us to keep improving

whereas a certain Mr Riza would have probably lost that game and said we played well but Reading are a good team blah blah blah

I can't believe there are 5 no's as of now. What do people expect? Win every game 5-0 & be top of the table with 12 wins out of 12 games? Everybody here would have been grabbing being top of the table after 12 games with both hands before a ball was kicked.

I described it yesterday as watching a young slugger at the STAR leisure centre on his 4th or 5th boxing match, knocking journeymen over for fun, but sitting next to a decent trainer who is looking at the lad's defense and saying he isn't going to go very far.

As random as Ive read on here, fair play.

I haven't been this confident in a manager for years.

I can't believe there are 5 no's as of now. What do people expect? Win every game 5-0 & be top of the table with 12 wins out of 12 games? Everybody here would have been grabbing being top of the table after 12 games with both hands before a ball was kicked.

I am one of the 32, but the football is not everyone's cup of tea.

I described it yesterday as watching a young slugger at the STAR leisure centre on his 4th or 5th boxing match, knocking journeymen over for fun, but sitting next to a decent trainer who is looking at the lad's defense and saying he isn't going to go very far.

We are so open it's scary at the moment, we are riding our luck, but allegedly it evens out over a season. The blueprint for how to play Cardiff at the CCS seems to be on the noticeboards of all L1 clubs at the moment and we don't seem to have an answer except go behind, then go gung ho.

I am in my late 50s so I have been brought up on keeping it tight, so the openness tests all my footballing belief systems.

There are two ways of looking at the situation this season; the introduction of youth, and the minimum requirement for us to be promoted at the first attempt…

So far, BBM has introduced some of the best home-grown youngsters we have seen in a Bluebird shirt since Aaron Ramsey, and we’re sitting at the top of League One

Not aimed at you, but I’m not too sure what some people want on times, and (for me and others) BBM has been the breath of fresh air we’ve needed to boost this club in what still remain some pretty dark times off the pitch!

What do you mean by take us forward?
Just back up the championship?
Back up and stay up lower half table?
Back up 10 ten finish.
Back up play offs 2nd season up.
Back up and challenging for automatic promotion?

They all taking us forward it different ways. If it’s is just to get promoted this season then of course hard to argue any different.

I can't believe there are 5 no's as of now. What do people expect? Win every game 5-0 & be top of the table with 12 wins out of 12 games? Everybody here would have been grabbing being top of the table after 12 games with both hands before a ball was kicked.

I am one of the 32, but the football is not everyone's cup of tea.

I described it yesterday as watching a young slugger at the STAR leisure centre on his 4th or 5th boxing match, knocking journeymen over for fun, but sitting next to a decent trainer who is looking at the lad's defense and saying he isn't going to go very far.

We are so open it's scary at the moment, we are riding our luck, but allegedly it evens out over a season. The blueprint for how to play Cardiff at the CCS seems to be on the noticeboards of all L1 clubs at the moment and we don't seem to have an answer except go behind, then go gung ho.

I am in my late 50s so I have been brought up on keeping it tight, so the openness tests all my footballing belief systems.

There are two ways of looking at the situation this season; the introduction of youth, and the minimum requirement for us to be promoted at the first attempt…

So far, BBM has introduced some of the best home-grown youngsters we have seen in a Bluebird shirt since Aaron Ramsey, and we’re sitting at the top of League One

Not aimed at you, but I’m not too sure what some people want on times, and (for me and others) BBM has been the breath of fresh air we’ve needed to boost this club in what still remain some pretty dark times off the pitch!

I think Tan has got unbelievably lucky with BBM, and this couldn't have gone any sweeter for him.

Resetting the club and the fan base, whilst shedding massive costs and relying on and improving the kids, whilst in the right part of the league. When I write this, how can this even be a question?

But I need a stiff Whisky after watching us recently, it's just too neurotic for me. When the rationale side returns, it's obviously a great appointment.

Every tactic, decision, comment, and action will be analysed by football analysts or recruiters. He is a high-potential coach. I'd love to know what they think of his game management and tactics.

I can't believe there are 5 no's as of now. What do people expect? Win every game 5-0 & be top of the table with 12 wins out of 12 games? Everybody here would have been grabbing being top of the table after 12 games with both hands before a ball was kicked.

I am one of the 32, but the football is not everyone's cup of tea.

I described it yesterday as watching a young slugger at the STAR leisure centre on his 4th or 5th boxing match, knocking journeymen over for fun, but sitting next to a decent trainer who is looking at the lad's defense and saying he isn't going to go very far.

We are so open it's scary at the moment, we are riding our luck, but allegedly it evens out over a season. The blueprint for how to play Cardiff at the CCS seems to be on the noticeboards of all L1 clubs at the moment and we don't seem to have an answer except go behind, then go gung ho.

I am in my late 50s so I have been brought up on keeping it tight, so the openness tests all my footballing belief systems.

Oh to be under 60 again.

I get what you're saying but would you get rid of him & replace him with someone else now after 12 games? If your answer is no to that question then your answer to the poll question should be yes but if you would get rid of him then fair enough & I respect that viewpoint even though you would be wrong.

What do you mean by take us forward?
Just back up the championship?
Back up and stay up lower half table?
Back up 10 ten finish.
Back up play offs 2nd season up.
Back up and challenging for automatic promotion?

They all taking us forward it different ways. If it’s is just to get promoted this season then of course hard to argue any different.

You're just being obtuse for the sake of it because you, apparently, are not happy unless we're losing & you can have a good moan.

I can't believe there are 5 no's as of now. What do people expect? Win every game 5-0 & be top of the table with 12 wins out of 12 games? Everybody here would have been grabbing being top of the table after 12 games with both hands before a ball was kicked.

I am one of the 32, but the football is not everyone's cup of tea.

I described it yesterday as watching a young slugger at the STAR leisure centre on his 4th or 5th boxing match, knocking journeymen over for fun, but sitting next to a decent trainer who is looking at the lad's defense and saying he isn't going to go very far.

We are so open it's scary at the moment, we are riding our luck, but allegedly it evens out over a season. The blueprint for how to play Cardiff at the CCS seems to be on the noticeboards of all L1 clubs at the moment and we don't seem to have an answer except go behind, then go gung ho.

I am in my late 50s so I have been brought up on keeping it tight, so the openness tests all my footballing belief systems.

Oh to be under 60 again.

I get what you're saying but would you get rid of him & replace him with someone else now after 12 games? If your answer is no to that question then your answer to the poll question should be yes but if you would get rid of him then fair enough & I respect that viewpoint even though you would be wrong.

If anybody would get rid of him at this stage then they need sectioning.
Why would he lose his job being top of the league and developing youngsters(stock) and making them into higher value stock. People who voted no must be madder than Tan himself

What do you mean by take us forward?
Just back up the championship?
Back up and stay up lower half table?
Back up 10 ten finish.
Back up play offs 2nd season up.
Back up and challenging for automatic promotion?

They all taking us forward it different ways. If it’s is just to get promoted this season then of course hard to argue any different.

I kind of get what you mean with the above questions.
But I took the question as your last statement. Where is he the man to take us forward this season and get us promoted. Which is why I find it hard to answer anything other than yes

I’m nowhere near as impressed as some people and am pretty concerned about quite a few areas of our play and feel we’ve been extremely fortunate in some games, and the games where that luck has not been present have been pretty awful.

That said, we’re top of the league and he’s managed to do it largely with a squad that he’s transformed the mentality rather than personnel of from last year whilst pretty aggressively blooding in youngsters so I can’t really argue against keeping him on.

If at any point however the performances don’t improve and the luck in results runs out and we drop out of and away from the top 2 then I’d say he has to go as anything other than automatics is a disaster of a season for me.

What do you mean by take us forward?
Just back up the championship?
Back up and stay up lower half table?
Back up 10 ten finish.
Back up play offs 2nd season up.
Back up and challenging for automatic promotion?

They all taking us forward it different ways. If it’s is just to get promoted this season then of course hard to argue any different.

You're just being obtuse for the sake of it because you, apparently, are not happy unless we're losing & you can have a good moan.

Lol I’m generally not. Then in my eyes no he is not the guy to take us forward to where we really should be. He will take us up I believe but as it stands he will be way out of his depth.
So where’s this evidence then of me just moaning? Find a post where I’m not in support of Murphy or the team.

Didn’t take long to find a deliberately obtuse moaning post from you.
Sat Oct 18, 2025 2:43 pm
Are our defenders wearing shock collars & they get shocked if they stray over the half way line? As soon as the get there they stop, look around & pass it sideways or backwards, I don't get it.

What do you mean by take us forward?
Just back up the championship?
Back up and stay up lower half table?
Back up 10 ten finish.
Back up play offs 2nd season up.
Back up and challenging for automatic promotion?

They all taking us forward it different ways. If it’s is just to get promoted this season then of course hard to argue any different.

You're just being obtuse for the sake of it because you, apparently, are not happy unless we're losing & you can have a good moan.

Lol I’m generally not. Then in my eyes no he is not the guy to take us forward to where we really should be. He will take us up I believe but as it stands he will be way out of his depth.
So where’s this evidence then of me just moaning? Find a post where I’m not in support of Murphy or the team.

Didn’t take long to find a deliberately obtuse moaning post from you.
Sat Oct 18, 2025 2:43 pm
Are our defenders wearing shock collars & they get shocked if they stray over the half way line? As soon as the get there they stop, look around & pass it sideways or backwards, I don't get it.

Yes I said that so what? I was 100% correct when I said it during what was probably our worst half of football this season.

So we should sack him now then? Is that what you're saying? Yes or no, simple question.

Definitely the right management team atm , needs to be back a bit in January a couple more to push us up , if we do go up , he will need a lot more backing tho , this team will be murdered in the championship.