Craig Bellamy had a very easy comfortable introduction to be

Craig Bellamy had a very easy comfortable introduction to being the Welsh manager, but when it comes to games against better opposition I don’t see him taking us far.
When you start players like Mark Harris, that’s the finish of you from the start.

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It’s not just Cardiff you are fickle about then? No patience at all.

Turkey are a pretty decent side. Beat them.

It’s not like we were beating good teams under Page. Who could do better with this set of players. Harris did alright. More mobile than Moore which Bellamy wanted.

It’s not just Cardiff you are fickle about then? No patience at all.

Turkey are a pretty decent side. Beat them.

It’s not like we were beating good teams under Page. Who could do better with this set of players. Harris did alright. More mobile than Moore which Bellamy wanted.

To be fair to the poster We have only beaten team who have been ranked lower than us in the FIFA ranking even when we played Turkey they were below us in the rankings they are now 3 positions above us . I was suprised when Harri’s was picked But to be fair to the lad I thought he did well in the first half We have now lost 4 of the last 5 games and the only one I expected us to win would have been Canada The England game was very poor.
I am enjoying that Wales are at least trying to win matches where under Page we hoped to snatch a win I do think however their loss records will be very similar as they currently are

My personal view is Bellamy never helped himself on his team selection and I agree we’ve not played many good sides, his wins are against the very poor nations

It’s not just Cardiff you are fickle about then? No patience at all.

Turkey are a pretty decent side. Beat them.

It’s not like we were beating good teams under Page. Who could do better with this set of players. Harris did alright. More mobile than Moore which Bellamy wanted.

Watch your problem Oxford fan? Coming in here stirring up shit and trying to turn City fans against each other.

Doesn't help when his tactics was not working but refused to change things until 85th minute? Thomas was lobbing in crosses 2nd half but no moore to get on end of them ..... Belgium worked it out and stuck to a rigid 433 or 442 with no space for Wales to attack them... they simply used docku to break through luckily they they were wasteful otherwise qualification would have been even harder than if is now.

It’s not just Cardiff you are fickle about then? No patience at all.

Turkey are a pretty decent side. Beat them.

It’s not like we were beating good teams under Page. Who could do better with this set of players. Harris did alright. More mobile than Moore which Bellamy wanted.

Nail on the head.

Man for man, Belgium are better than us. We went toe-to-toe against them yesterday. I respect that.

England are one of the best in the world. Shambles of a start but we haven't beaten them in 40 years.

Not many managers on the planet will get results out of these fixtures. I think Bellamy is doing a great job. Harris was clearly in the team to run the hard yards; which Moore and Johnson have proved that they do not do.

Forums, the 'everyone's got a platform' and the woke-ism has bred a fan who can't handle a defeat.

Doesn't help when his tactics was not working but refused to change things until 85th minute? Thomas was lobbing in crosses 2nd half but no moore to get on end of them ..... Belgium worked it out and stuck to a rigid 433 or 442 with no space for Wales to attack them... they simply used docku to break through luckily they they were wasteful otherwise qualification would have been even harder than if is now.

His tactics were working though. We had alot of clearcut chances. We got un-done by DeBruyne and Doku, who are both world class. Their manager told us before the game that they'd rely on their counter attack; which is elite.

We just lost to a better side, but landed enough gloves on them, for me. Our defence is Championship level (in my opinion) against Champions league level attack.

No grumbles from me. I've seen enough to see that this team are busting a gut to try and get the wins.

It’s not just Cardiff you are fickle about then? No patience at all.

Turkey are a pretty decent side. Beat them.

It’s not like we were beating good teams under Page. Who could do better with this set of players. Harris did alright. More mobile than Moore which Bellamy wanted.

Watch your problem Oxford fan? Coming in here stirring up shit and trying to turn City fans against each other.

There’s only person here who stirs shit up and it’s you. Anytime Cardiff or wales lose same old negative shite.

Watch your problem? What does that even mean? What do I have to watch??

Doesn't help when his tactics was not working but refused to change things until 85th minute? Thomas was lobbing in crosses 2nd half but no moore to get on end of them ..... Belgium worked it out and stuck to a rigid 433 or 442 with no space for Wales to attack them... they simply used docku to break through luckily they they were wasteful otherwise qualification would have been even harder than if is now.

This was the biggest problem for me too - we looked a lot more dangerous in the last five minutes. To be fair to Harris he didn't have a bad first half, but was anonymous in the second and we needed to change things after ten minutes. I'm surprised Bellamy stuck with it so long and would have preferred to have seen Johnson go through the middle if he wasn't going to bring Moore on. Uphill task now though Kazakhstan did us a favour by taking a point in North Macedonia.

The run to the Euro 2016 semi finals was brilliant, but it has also led to some increasing expectations.

Going into this group, a lot of us would have been pleased with 2nd place. Still a realistic chance of achieving that, just got to win the last two.

We don't really have any right to expect to finish above Belgium.

There was a little bit of hope there ahead of last night, but it was always a tough task.

I don't think it's fair to blame Bellamy. We are back in the top tier of the Nations League and, if we do finish 2nd, that's a very good start for him.

That would give us a home game in our first play-off and give us a decent chance of being in the World Cup.

The run to the Euro 2016 semi finals was brilliant, but it has also led to some increasing expectations.

Going into this group, a lot of us would have been pleased with 2nd place. Still a realistic chance of achieving that, just got to win the last two.

We don't really have any right to expect to finish above Belgium.

There was a little bit of hope there ahead of last night, but it was always a tough task.

I don't think it's fair to blame Bellamy. We are back in the top tier of the Nations League and, if we do finish 2nd, that's a very good start for him.

That would give us a home game in our first play-off and give us a decent chance of being in the World Cup.

Not really proportioning blame on Bellamy - I was just surprised that it took so long for him to make that decision last night. I am also sticking my neck out and saying that I wouldn't be too surprised if Kazakhstan got something from their game in Belgium which would open it all back up again...

The run to the Euro 2016 semi finals was brilliant, but it has also led to some increasing expectations.

Going into this group, a lot of us would have been pleased with 2nd place. Still a realistic chance of achieving that, just got to win the last two.

We don't really have any right to expect to finish above Belgium.

There was a little bit of hope there ahead of last night, but it was always a tough task.

I don't think it's fair to blame Bellamy. We are back in the top tier of the Nations League and, if we do finish 2nd, that's a very good start for him.

That would give us a home game in our first play-off and give us a decent chance of being in the World Cup.

Not really proportioning blame on Bellamy - I was just surprised that it took so long for him to make that decision last night. I am also sticking my neck out and saying that I wouldn't be too surprised if Kazakhstan got something from their game in Belgium which would open it all back up again...

Yeah that's a fair comment about last night actually.

I put this on another thread but as it's relevant to this one I'll just copy & paste it here.

We're just not as good as some people think. We had a great run when Bale, Ramsey and some others were in their prime but now we're back to being what we were before then, a very mediocre team with a couple of stand out players. We're waiting for the next (hopefully) batch to mature & come good. Hopefully with the new expanded world cup finals it won't be another 58 years until our next appearance at them.

2016 was an anomaly and now some think it's the norm. It never was & never will be.

The run to the Euro 2016 semi finals was brilliant, but it has also led to some increasing expectations.

Going into this group, a lot of us would have been pleased with 2nd place. Still a realistic chance of achieving that, just got to win the last two.

We don't really have any right to expect to finish above Belgium.

There was a little bit of hope there ahead of last night, but it was always a tough task.

I don't think it's fair to blame Bellamy. We are back in the top tier of the Nations League and, if we do finish 2nd, that's a very good start for him.

That would give us a home game in our first play-off and give us a decent chance of being in the World Cup.

Not really proportioning blame on Bellamy - I was just surprised that it took so long for him to make that decision last night. I am also sticking my neck out and saying that I wouldn't be too surprised if Kazakhstan got something from their game in Belgium which would open it all back up again...

We need Belgium to get 1 point from last 2 games to make it interesting sadly.

I didn't expect anything from last night. We are on a run of poor form and thats before you look at our League one players playing against a number of World Class ones. It really was a tall order.

Reallity is we are a small club in a big league.

The run to the Euro 2016 semi finals was brilliant, but it has also led to some increasing expectations.

Going into this group, a lot of us would have been pleased with 2nd place. Still a realistic chance of achieving that, just got to win the last two.

We don't really have any right to expect to finish above Belgium.

There was a little bit of hope there ahead of last night, but it was always a tough task.

I don't think it's fair to blame Bellamy. We are back in the top tier of the Nations League and, if we do finish 2nd, that's a very good start for him.

That would give us a home game in our first play-off and give us a decent chance of being in the World Cup.

Not really proportioning blame on Bellamy - I was just surprised that it took so long for him to make that decision last night. I am also sticking my neck out and saying that I wouldn't be too surprised if Kazakhstan got something from their game in Belgium which would open it all back up again...

We need Belgium to get 1 point from last 2 games to make it interesting sadly.

Yes, my mistake - I thought they only had one game left...

I put this on another thread but as it's relevant to this one I'll just copy & paste it here.

We're just not as good as some people think. We had a great run when Bale, Ramsey and some others were in their prime but now we're back to being what we were before then, a very mediocre team with a couple of stand out players. We're waiting for the next (hopefully) batch to mature & come good. Hopefully with the new expanded world cup finals it won't be another 58 years until our next appearance at them.

2016 was an anomaly and now some think it's the norm. It never was & never will be.

Almost identical to a view I expressed on Si's blog.

We have always had a small pool of players but in 2016 the stars were perfectly aligned and we had a decent attack, midfield and defence all at the same time. Prior to the this we had maybe 1 or 2 of the components in place but not all 3.

All we can do is wish the current crop well, limit our expectations and wait for 1 or 2 superstars to emerge who will elevate the team's status.

The reality is we are league one Harris is championship accept we are playing beating some league one losing to poor teams league one reality check

The reality is we are league one Harris is championship accept we are playing beating some league one losing to poor teams league one reality check

Tbf I was one of the first to say that MH selection was crazy but, though very limited imo, I thought he did what I’d imagine Bellamy had asked of him perfectly. Chaded and led the press very well.