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Game was stopped as Reading fans said something not liked by someone.

If Reading sing sheep sh.ggers next week, and we are losing, should we all start crying and complaining to get the game stopped, or sing our usual response?

Didn't we have a problem at Reading a few years ago when our fans were accused of anti- English chanting or something?

Didn't we have a problem at Reading a few years ago when our fans were accused of anti- English chanting or something?

Yes think they threatened to abandon the game. It was over nothing!!!

Didn't we have a problem at Reading a few years ago when our fans were accused of anti- English chanting or something?

If I recall correctly, they mistook YJB for YBB and had to apologise later; but only after struggling Reading’s hierarchy, and the media made a meal of it!

Didn't we have a problem at Reading a few years ago when our fans were accused of anti- English chanting or something?

If I recall correctly, they mistook YJB for YBB and had to apologise later; but only after struggling Reading’s hierarchy, and the media made a meal of it!

Chris, I remember we were on tv once and the commentators said that ‘there’s some unacceptable chanting coming from the Cardiff section of the ground’. They were singing YJB!

Didn't we have a problem at Reading a few years ago when our fans were accused of anti- English chanting or something?

If I recall correctly, they mistook YJB for YBB and had to apologise later; but only after struggling Reading’s hierarchy, and the media made a meal of it!

Chris, I remember we were on tv once and the commentators said that ‘there’s some unacceptable chanting coming from the Cardiff section of the ground’. They were singing YJB!

Andrew, that might well have been what I recall

Let's just hope this does not become the norm creeping into the game like it has in every walk of life stopping the game for hurty words like starmers police knocking on your door i am sick to death of it
frightened to fart these days incase someone takes you to a tribunal for invading there space with an odour, and if anyones fans should be hauled over the coals dare I say we should for singing infront of children sh.gged by your fathers and we are regular called sheep sh.ggers by most English teams neither of these have been stopped.

Exeter City manager Gary Caldwell slammed yet more unacceptable chanting at football matches after the 1-1 draw with saw a report of a racist comment towards a Grecians player from the away end.
Saturday’s League One clash at St James Park was halted in the 74th minute by referee James Durkin, who spoke to the managers and captains of both sides as well as a steward.

Shortly afterwards, an announcement in the ground followed saying that there had been an incident of discriminatory abuse. There was then a warning any further incidents would lead to the game being halted.

If it’s racist abuse then good on them for stopping the game. The only way the knuckle draggers will learn is by having it called out.

It does however open a can of worms if not properly policed.

If it’s racist abuse then good on them for stopping the game. The only way the knuckle draggers will learn is by having it called out.

It does however open a can of worms if not properly policed.

I agree but it’s a coincidence that it’s happened again involving 2 clubs where it was incorrect & exaggerated before.

If it’s racist abuse then good on them for stopping the game. The only way the knuckle draggers will learn is by having it called out.

It does however open a can of worms if not properly policed.

I agree but it’s a coincidence that it’s happened again involving 2 clubs where it was incorrect & exaggerated before.

It would seem Exeter have had a message to take a stance on this kind of thing, which is admirable if used in the right way.

This is why policing it properly is so important otherwise some games will be stopped every five minutes.

It’s certainly opened a can of worms.

If it’s racist abuse then good on them for stopping the game. The only way the knuckle draggers will learn is by having it called out.

It does however open a can of worms if not properly policed.

I agree but it’s a coincidence that it’s happened again involving 2 clubs where it was incorrect & exaggerated before.

Maybe the club have been warned by the authorities to put an end to it if they have an element that is causing problems before the authorities take control. It’s only 2 clubs out of the 92 so it must be quite extreme as most football chants would cause stoppages. As mentioned ours songs we regularly sing about paedophilia and beastiality don’t seem to be bothering anyone so the Exeter ones must be quite extreme.

Maybe the system is working and doing what they doing now is preventing future chaos on match day.

As a side note I occasionally take my 10Yo daughter to a match when she up for it and sometime a couple of friends when the fathers song is song she is mortified, and had a parent call me asking why they daughter repeated that song to her brother. It can have effects beyond what is meant to be banter.

If it’s racist abuse then good on them for stopping the game. The only way the knuckle draggers will learn is by having it called out.

It does however open a can of worms if not properly policed.

I agree but it’s a coincidence that it’s happened again involving 2 clubs where it was incorrect & exaggerated before.

Maybe the club have been warned by the authorities to put an end to it if they have an element that is causing problems before the authorities take control. It’s only 2 clubs out of the 92 so it must be quite extreme as most football chants would cause stoppages. As mentioned ours songs we regularly sing about paedophilia and beastiality don’t seem to be bothering anyone so the Exeter ones must be quite extreme.

Maybe the system is working and doing what they doing now is preventing future chaos on match day.

As a side note I occasionally take my 10Yo daughter to a match when she up for it and sometime a couple of friends when the fathers song is song she is mortified, and had a parent call me asking why they daughter repeated that song to her brother. It can have effects beyond what is meant to be banter.

The Exeter keeper complained that our fans were calling him a “paedo” and rightly so.

The Swansea song is obscene and I can’t understand the mentality of anyone that sings it.

It’s puerile and I cringe every time it’s sung, embarrassing. You’re right to identify the effect it has on people, especially young kids.

Think I'll start going to stewards when we get called sheep shaggers Saturday to complain . Although I've no idea what's gone on at Exeter

Think I'll start going to stewards when we get called sheep shaggers Saturday to complain . Although I've no idea what's gone on at Exeter

I couldnt give a damn what we are called, but objectively I cant think of anything currently chanted at a football match more abusive than being called a sheep shagger because you are Welsh. And yet this chant is constantly allowed everywhere we play. Unbelievable double standards by the woke brigade and their obedient servants who run football these days.

Think I'll start going to stewards when we get called sheep shaggers Saturday to complain . Although I've no idea what's gone on at Exeter

I couldnt give a damn what we are called, but objectively I cant think of anything currently chanted at a football match more abusive than being called a sheep shagger because you are Welsh. And yet this chant is constantly allowed everywhere we play. Unbelievable double standards by the woke brigade and their obedient servants who run football these days.

So you ok with supporting peadophillic chants then?
You just proven you exactly the same as this group that you call woke. Your now offend and don’t like it.
What’s the difference

I was at the Reading game when they falsely accused our fans of racist chanting, we were shaking our heads with disbelief as it was being announced over the tannoys. Then the media has a field day before Reading eventually apologised for getting it wrong and how the mishandled it. I've no time for them and hope they get relegated again, sterile club and even more sterile fans.

I was at the Reading game when they falsely accused our fans of racist chanting, we were shaking our heads with disbelief as it was being announced over the tannoys. Then the media has a field day before Reading eventually apologised for getting it wrong and how the mishandled it. I've no time for them and hope they get relegated again, sterile club and even more sterile fans.

Well said grange end.

Think I'll start going to stewards when we get called sheep shaggers Saturday to complain . Although I've no idea what's gone on at Exeter

I couldnt give a damn what we are called, but objectively I cant think of anything currently chanted at a football match more abusive than being called a sheep shagger because you are Welsh. And yet this chant is constantly allowed everywhere we play. Unbelievable double standards by the woke brigade and their obedient servants who run football these days.

You think being called a sheep shagger is worse than racial abuse or being called a paedo?

Think I'll start going to stewards when we get called sheep shaggers Saturday to complain . Although I've no idea what's gone on at Exeter

I couldnt give a damn what we are called, but objectively I cant think of anything currently chanted at a football match more abusive than being called a sheep shagger because you are Welsh. And yet this chant is constantly allowed everywhere we play. Unbelievable double standards by the woke brigade and their obedient servants who run football these days.

You think being called a sheep shagger is worse than racial abuse or being called a paedo?

If your not a paedo it's ridiculous to call someone, but racial depends on who is on the recieving end of it,
been called a sheep sh.gger can be very offensive if you take it to heart, a or a welsh fanatic especially as its usually coming from and an englishman, who know full well it's meant to antagonise and be offensive.
We as welsh and Scots irish take no offence even though it's the english that have made up the names taffy, paddy, jock, but some do take offence such as the abbreviation of Pakistan
So in conclusion I would say it's wether the people on the receiving end take offence at sheep sh.ggers which could be categorized as
racist towards welsh people.

Think I'll start going to stewards when we get called sheep shaggers Saturday to complain . Although I've no idea what's gone on at Exeter

I couldnt give a damn what we are called, but objectively I cant think of anything currently chanted at a football match more abusive than being called a sheep shagger because you are Welsh. And yet this chant is constantly allowed everywhere we play. Unbelievable double standards by the woke brigade and their obedient servants who run football these days.

You think being called a sheep shagger is worse than racial abuse or being called a paedo?

If your not a paedo it's ridiculous to call someone, but racial depends on who is on the recieving end of it,
been called a sheep sh.gger can be very offensive if you take it to heart, a or a welsh fanatic especially as its usually coming from and an englishman, who know full well it's meant to antagonise and be offensive.
We as welsh and Scots irish take no offence even though it's the english that have made up the names taffy, paddy, jock, but some do take offence such as the abbreviation of Pakistan
So in conclusion I would say it's wether the people on the receiving end take offence at sheep sh.ggers which could be categorized as
racist towards welsh people.

People can take offence at being called sheep shagger because they are welsh is their right. How ever it is not racist and I imagine that it is insulting to people who have and currently suffer from racism.
Xenophobic yes, but racist definitely not. Wales isn’t a race.

Think I'll start going to stewards when we get called sheep shaggers Saturday to complain . Although I've no idea what's gone on at Exeter

I couldnt give a damn what we are called, but objectively I cant think of anything currently chanted at a football match more abusive than being called a sheep shagger because you are Welsh. And yet this chant is constantly allowed everywhere we play. Unbelievable double standards by the woke brigade and their obedient servants who run football these days.

You think being called a sheep shagger is worse than racial abuse or being called a paedo?

If your not a paedo it's ridiculous to call someone, but racial depends on who is on the recieving end of it,
been called a sheep sh.gger can be very offensive if you take it to heart, a or a welsh fanatic especially as its usually coming from and an englishman, who know full well it's meant to antagonise and be offensive.
We as welsh and Scots irish take no offence even though it's the english that have made up the names taffy, paddy, jock, but some do take offence such as the abbreviation of Pakistan
So in conclusion I would say it's wether the people on the receiving end take offence at sheep sh.ggers which could be categorized as
racist towards welsh people.

People can take offence at being called sheep shagger because they are welsh is their right. How ever it is not racist and I imagine that it is insulting to people who have and currently suffer from racism.
Xenophobic yes, but racist definitely not. Wales isn’t a race.

I think you'll find that the law classes "sheep shagger" as both racist and actually illegal. Here we go:

1. Legal perspective (UK)

Under the Equality Act 2010, “race” includes ethnic or national origins, which means Welsh people are protected against harassment or discrimination on that basis.

So if someone uses the term “sheep shagger” toward a Welsh person in a derogatory or hostile way, it can legally count as:

Racial harassment (if it creates a humiliating or offensive environment), or

Racially aggravated abuse (under the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 or Public Order Act 1986).


In fact, UK police and courts have previously treated anti-Welsh slurs (like “sheep shagger” or “Taffy”) as racially aggravated because they target an ethnic/national group.

2. Social and moral perspective

Even outside a legal setting, the term is widely considered offensive, xenophobic, and prejudiced. It relies on a national stereotype (the rural Welsh and sheep farming) and is used to mock or demean Welsh identity — similar in nature to ethnic slurs directed at other groups.

3. Context matters — but caution always applies

If it’s said jokingly among friends who are Welsh themselves and consent to the humor, it might not be harassment.

But if said to or about a Welsh person in anger, mockery, or public commentary, it’s likely to be seen as racist or xenophobic abuse.

In summary: Calling a Welsh person a “sheep shagger” is widely considered a racist or xenophobic slur, and can be prosecuted as such if used abusively or threateningly.

Think I'll start going to stewards when we get called sheep shaggers Saturday to complain . Although I've no idea what's gone on at Exeter

I couldnt give a damn what we are called, but objectively I cant think of anything currently chanted at a football match more abusive than being called a sheep shagger because you are Welsh. And yet this chant is constantly allowed everywhere we play. Unbelievable double standards by the woke brigade and their obedient servants who run football these days.

You think being called a sheep shagger is worse than racial abuse or being called a paedo?

If your not a paedo it's ridiculous to call someone, but racial depends on who is on the recieving end of it,
been called a sheep sh.gger can be very offensive if you take it to heart, a or a welsh fanatic especially as its usually coming from and an englishman, who know full well it's meant to antagonise and be offensive.
We as welsh and Scots irish take no offence even though it's the english that have made up the names taffy, paddy, jock, but some do take offence such as the abbreviation of Pakistan
So in conclusion I would say it's wether the people on the receiving end take offence at sheep sh.ggers which could be categorized as
racist towards welsh people.

People can take offence at being called sheep shagger because they are welsh is their right. How ever it is not racist and I imagine that it is insulting to people who have and currently suffer from racism.
Xenophobic yes, but racist definitely not. Wales isn’t a race.

I think you'll find that the law classes "sheep shagger" as both racist and actually illegal. Here we go:

1. Legal perspective (UK)

Under the Equality Act 2010, “race” includes ethnic or national origins, which means Welsh people are protected against harassment or discrimination on that basis.

So if someone uses the term “sheep shagger” toward a Welsh person in a derogatory or hostile way, it can legally count as:

Racial harassment (if it creates a humiliating or offensive environment), or

Racially aggravated abuse (under the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 or Public Order Act 1986).


In fact, UK police and courts have previously treated anti-Welsh slurs (like “sheep shagger” or “Taffy”) as racially aggravated because they target an ethnic/national group.

2. Social and moral perspective

Even outside a legal setting, the term is widely considered offensive, xenophobic, and prejudiced. It relies on a national stereotype (the rural Welsh and sheep farming) and is used to mock or demean Welsh identity — similar in nature to ethnic slurs directed at other groups.

3. Context matters — but caution always applies

If it’s said jokingly among friends who are Welsh themselves and consent to the humor, it might not be harassment.

But if said to or about a Welsh person in anger, mockery, or public commentary, it’s likely to be seen as racist or xenophobic abuse.

In summary: Calling a Welsh person a “sheep shagger” is widely considered a racist or xenophobic slur, and can be prosecuted as such if used abusively or threateningly.

Well I never being Welsh is now a race.
So great work on A.I there grange keeping us on inline. Won’t be worth having a forum soon just put everything into A.I.

So to sum up. Everyone gets offended by something some are called woke when they do some aren’t. Somewhere along the lines someone been so offended that the law changed to allow things that aren’t race related. I.e being Welsh to loosely be classed as racial harassment. I’ve lost track.

Can we have Trump to sort us lot out when he finished elsewhere please.

Thinking about it a bit more.
sheep shagger isn’t exclusively anti Welsh is it?
Derby fans are called it as well. And New Zealanders.
Grange can you use you A.i skills on this please and then copy and paste again?

I couldnt care less what somebody called me or us at the football it's football and banter tbh I was just making a point how far do you go before a game is stopped it seems some clubs fans are going to far to try get games stoped maybe. Although for me there's to many offended any anything and them who like to identify as a hoover on a Thursday in the stands these days but personal opinion of course

Think I'll start going to stewards when we get called sheep shaggers Saturday to complain . Although I've no idea what's gone on at Exeter

I couldnt give a damn what we are called, but objectively I cant think of anything currently chanted at a football match more abusive than being called a sheep shagger because you are Welsh. And yet this chant is constantly allowed everywhere we play. Unbelievable double standards by the woke brigade and their obedient servants who run football these days.

You think being called a sheep shagger is worse than racial abuse or being called a paedo?

If your not a paedo it's ridiculous to call someone, but racial depends on who is on the recieving end of it,
been called a sheep sh.gger can be very offensive if you take it to heart, a or a welsh fanatic especially as its usually coming from and an englishman, who know full well it's meant to antagonise and be offensive.
We as welsh and Scots irish take no offence even though it's the english that have made up the names taffy, paddy, jock, but some do take offence such as the abbreviation of Pakistan
So in conclusion I would say it's wether the people on the receiving end take offence at sheep sh.ggers which could be categorized as
racist towards welsh people.

People can take offence at being called sheep shagger because they are welsh is their right. How ever it is not racist and I imagine that it is insulting to people who have and currently suffer from racism.
Xenophobic yes, but racist definitely not. Wales isn’t a race.

I think you'll find that the law classes "sheep shagger" as both racist and actually illegal. Here we go:

1. Legal perspective (UK)

Under the Equality Act 2010, “race” includes ethnic or national origins, which means Welsh people are protected against harassment or discrimination on that basis.

So if someone uses the term “sheep shagger” toward a Welsh person in a derogatory or hostile way, it can legally count as:

Racial harassment (if it creates a humiliating or offensive environment), or

Racially aggravated abuse (under the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 or Public Order Act 1986).


In fact, UK police and courts have previously treated anti-Welsh slurs (like “sheep shagger” or “Taffy”) as racially aggravated because they target an ethnic/national group.

2. Social and moral perspective

Even outside a legal setting, the term is widely considered offensive, xenophobic, and prejudiced. It relies on a national stereotype (the rural Welsh and sheep farming) and is used to mock or demean Welsh identity — similar in nature to ethnic slurs directed at other groups.

3. Context matters — but caution always applies

If it’s said jokingly among friends who are Welsh themselves and consent to the humor, it might not be harassment.

But if said to or about a Welsh person in anger, mockery, or public commentary, it’s likely to be seen as racist or xenophobic abuse.

In summary: Calling a Welsh person a “sheep shagger” is widely considered a racist or xenophobic slur, and can be prosecuted as such if used abusively or threateningly.

Well I never being Welsh is now a race.
So great work on A.I there grange keeping us on inline. Won’t be worth having a forum soon just put everything into A.I.

So to sum up. Everyone gets offended by something some are called woke when they do some aren’t. Somewhere along the lines someone been so offended that the law changed to allow things that aren’t race related. I.e being Welsh to loosely be classed as racial harassment. I’ve lost track.

Can we have Trump to sort us lot out when he finished elsewhere please.

Everyone uses AI by default now to check facts, just as in this case. And as you can see, for the purposes of the law, sheep shagger is indeed a racist chant and term. So at least your clear on that.

Sheep shagger certainly doesn't offend me at all and it would be a shame if the law was enforced to silence it, that way lies more woke madness. What bothered me at the time of the Reading game is that they publicly and falsely accused us of racist chanting in the worst possible terms while their fans were chanting sheep shaggers.

Right, I'm off to talk advanced team tactics with ChatGPT.

I couldnt care less what somebody called me or us at the football it's football and banter tbh I was just making a point how far do you go before a game is stopped it seems some clubs fans are going to far to try get games stoped maybe. Although for me there's to many offended any anything and them who like to identify as a hoover on a Thursday in the stands these days but personal opinion of course

I couldnt care less what somebody called me or us at the football it's football and banter tbh I was just making a point how far do you go before a game is stopped it seems some clubs fans are going to far to try get games stoped maybe. Although for me there's to many offended any anything and them who like to identify as a hoover on a Thursday in the stands these days but personal opinion of course

This my point at the outset it's football banter, but it's new thing to say i am offended and it's my right to complain.

I couldnt care less what somebody called me or us at the football it's football and banter tbh I was just making a point how far do you go before a game is stopped it seems some clubs fans are going to far to try get games stoped maybe. Although for me there's to many offended any anything and them who like to identify as a hoover on a Thursday in the stands these days but personal opinion of course

Think this grew bigger that in needed to be when jj made it clear that paedophile chants are ok.

There's a video on social media where the Exeter keeper starts a chant with the Reading fans. He goes up to the and says:

Whitsworth your a c**t, whitsworth whitsworth your a c**t and the fans joined in and continued chanting it