Not a time to panic

I expected criticism of this game, that's only right.

What I didn't expect was people going into panic mode (what was I thinking, of course they do).

It's a poor home result but it's not the end of the world.

We are 4th in the league and three points off top. The teams that came down with us - Luton and Plymouth - are four points and eight points behind us.

It's not like we were outplayed.

We had eight big chances, they had one.

We had 2.14 xG, they had 0.69.

We had more than twice the amount of touches inside their box as they had in our's.

They came with a game plan and it worked. They did similar to Huddersfield.

So yes, it's a poor result.

But is it a time to panic? Absolutely not.

10 games in and we got 20 points that's 2 points per game which will probably see you inside the top 2 after 46 games

This squad is only just starting out it needs time to get up to full speed, we will have plenty of ups and downs this season we just need to not over react either way

Win a few everyone's saying we will piss the league lose a few and it's the end of the world, fact remains we will have to fight and scrap for every point but I still think my pre season prediction of finishing 4th place won't be far off

Four points from our last 12 points against some pretty poor opposition

Four points from our last 12 points against some pretty poor opposition

Tonight was poor opposition. But the other three?

We beat Wigan. That was Wigan's first home defeat.

Bradford are top of the league.

Stockport finished 3rd last season.

Not exactly poor opposition.

Don’t try and talk sense to some of our fan base.

My view three letters WOW

I'm not panicking yet but that was beyond awful & comparable to last season no matter how you look at it. We lost to the rock bottom team who haven't won in 8 games not a team in the top 6, this far & away the worse we have played this season. Like I said elsewhere we never actually looked like scoring but I'm putting my faith in BBM to sort it out.

I'm not panicking yet but that was beyond awful & comparable to last season no matter how you look at it. We lost to the rock bottom team who haven't won in 8 games not a team in the top 6, this far & away the worse we have played this season. Like I said elsewhere we never actually looked like scoring but I'm putting my faith in BBM to sort it out.

We had 77% posession and 20 shots.

Show me 1 game last season where that happened. That's one way to look at it.

'Comparable to last season' is nonsense.

lol. Worcester why you delete my post?

I'm not panicking yet but that was beyond awful & comparable to last season no matter how you look at it. We lost to the rock bottom team who haven't won in 8 games not a team in the top 6, this far & away the worse we have played this season. Like I said elsewhere we never actually looked like scoring but I'm putting my faith in BBM to sort it out.

We had 77% posession and 20 shots.

Show me 1 game last season where that happened. That's one way to look at it.

'Comparable to last season' is nonsense.

I don't care if we had 99% possession if we scored zero with it & they scored a single goal with 1% possession, we lost against the team bottom of the league & we shouldn't have because we were poor.

Or are you telling me that we played well & were unlucky to lose? We played well against Bradford & got well beaten but to me this was a way worse result & a piss poor performance. The second half was unbelievably bad, at least we looked like we might score in the first 45 but I can't say the same for the second 45.

I'm not panicking yet but that was beyond awful & comparable to last season no matter how you look at it. We lost to the rock bottom team who haven't won in 8 games not a team in the top 6, this far & away the worse we have played this season. Like I said elsewhere we never actually looked like scoring but I'm putting my faith in BBM to sort it out.

We had 77% posession and 20 shots.

Show me 1 game last season where that happened. That's one way to look at it.

'Comparable to last season' is nonsense.

I don't care if we had 99% possession if we scored zero with it & they scored a single goal with 1% possession, we lost against the team bottom of the league & we shouldn't have because we were poor.

Or are you telling me that we played well & were unlucky to lose? We played well against Bradford & got well beaten but to me this was a way worse result & a piss poor performance. The second half was unbelievably bad, at least we looked like we might score in the first 45 but I can't say the same for the second 45.

I simply replied to your statement of conparing it to last season... which is bollocks. We dominated the ball and had ALOT of chances. We averaged 46% of the ball last season.

You've taken it to a tangent of noise. Stick to the point you made.

I'm not panicking yet but that was beyond awful & comparable to last season no matter how you look at it. We lost to the rock bottom team who haven't won in 8 games not a team in the top 6, this far & away the worse we have played this season. Like I said elsewhere we never actually looked like scoring but I'm putting my faith in BBM to sort it out.

We had 77% posession and 20 shots.

Show me 1 game last season where that happened. That's one way to look at it.

'Comparable to last season' is nonsense.

I don't care if we had 99% possession if we scored zero with it & they scored a single goal with 1% possession, we lost against the team bottom of the league & we shouldn't have because we were poor.

Or are you telling me that we played well & were unlucky to lose? We played well against Bradford & got well beaten but to me this was a way worse result & a piss poor performance. The second half was unbelievably bad, at least we looked like we might score in the first 45 but I can't say the same for the second 45.

I simply replied to your statement of conparing it to last season... which is bollocks. We dominated the ball and had ALOT of chances. We averaged 46% of the ball last season.

You've taken it to a tangent of noise. Stick to the point you made.

Which was that we were shit just like last season, slow, turgid & ponderous. We lost, we move on.

For me we found out the best centre back pairing tonight, and it's not the two who played tonight

Might not be panic time - But yet again we play a team bottom / out of form and lose a midweek game .
Go back over the last few years - Derby - QPR - Birmingham to name just 3 done the same to Us .

For me we found out the best centre back pairing tonight, and it's not the two who played tonight

Yet they have been the CB partnership of most of the season and Chambers was slated to high heaven.

Fickle all over the place.

I expected criticism of this game, that's only right.

What I didn't expect was people going into panic mode (what was I thinking, of course they do).

It's a poor home result but it's not the end of the world.

We are 4th in the league and three points off top. The teams that came down with us - Luton and Plymouth - are four points and eight points behind us.

It's not like we were outplayed.

We had eight big chances, they had one.

We had 2.14 xG, they had 0.69.

We had more than twice the amount of touches inside their box as they had in our's.

They came with a game plan and it worked. They did similar to Huddersfield.

So yes, it's a poor result.

But is it a time to panic? Absolutely not.

Stevenage twice in December is massive. Teams have worked us out a bit now, parking the bus with eleven behind the ball and just trying to frustrate. BBM’s got to mix it up, the little triangles and lay-offs around the box are getting blocked too easily. Not time to panic though, just something we’ve got to improve if we’re going to push on."

I expected criticism of this game, that's only right.

What I didn't expect was people going into panic mode (what was I thinking, of course they do).

It's a poor home result but it's not the end of the world.

We are 4th in the league and three points off top. The teams that came down with us - Luton and Plymouth - are four points and eight points behind us.

It's not like we were outplayed.

We had eight big chances, they had one.

We had 2.14 xG, they had 0.69.

We had more than twice the amount of touches inside their box as they had in our's.

They came with a game plan and it worked. They did similar to Huddersfield.

So yes, it's a poor result.

But is it a time to panic? Absolutely not.

Stevenage twice in December is massive. Teams have worked us out a bit now, parking the bus with eleven behind the ball and just trying to frustrate. BBM’s got to mix it up, the little triangles and lay-offs around the box are getting blocked too easily. Not time to panic though, just something we’ve got to improve if we’re going to push on."

Teams have not worked us out, that's a false narrative.

We broke down Burton many times and just didn't take our chances.

Definitely no need to panic. I'm happy with how the squad has started this season. It's like night and day compared with last season. The manager has only been in the job a coupe of months and the progress is impressive. We should have won last night, I've never seen a game like it. I don't think I've seen a Cardiff side with 80% possession. We're creating alot of chances in most games just need to start taking them.

Definitely no need to panic. I'm happy with how the squad has started this season. It's like night and day compared with last season. The manager has only been in the job a coupe of months and the progress is impressive. We should have won last night, I've never seen a game like it. I don't think I've seen a Cardiff side with 80% possession. We're creating alot of chances in most games just need to start taking them.

You are spot on it is like night and day.
But also the difference in the teams we are playing are night and day.
Be a good yardstick how far we come next season when we are back in the championship, which I’m sure we will be. If we somehow not then we haven’t improved at all.

No need to panic but we have to be more clinical in the final third

Definitely no need to panic. I'm happy with how the squad has started this season. It's like night and day compared with last season. The manager has only been in the job a coupe of months and the progress is impressive. We should have won last night, I've never seen a game like it. I don't think I've seen a Cardiff side with 80% possession. We're creating alot of chances in most games just need to start taking them.

You are spot on it is like night and day.
But also the difference in the teams we are playing are night and day.
Be a good yardstick how far we come next season when we are back in the championship, which I’m sure we will be. If we somehow not then we haven’t improved at all.

I agree teams are weaker in this division, especially in the final third.

If Salechs goal had stood … and I see no reason why it shouldn’t have. Then it’s a different game all together. Yes we should have been more clinical but burton didn’t really try to get out of their half except to kick and chase on the break. They had 3 CBs. Basically Asa shield for their goal. It’s hard to break down and the ref was very weak with their challenges compared to ours with the exception possibly of kapakio.
I’m not blaming burton btw. They played to their strengths.

We did try and batter the door down and they kept trying to the very end. You can argue energy levels. But as I say. That goal is given and we win at a canter

I’m frustrated not panicking. That decision changed the game and it was clearly the wrong one. That’s even before we considered the amount of rugby tackles. It emboldens the defending team knowing they can basically get away with murder.

No need to panic but we have to be more clinical in the final third

Spot On .

No need to panic but we have to be more clinical in the final third

Spot On .

Yep!

I could not agree more with the sentiment of the original post. We were a hopeless cause last season but BBM has, in my humble opinion made great progress.
We have a small, tight squad and yes, I’d like to have seen a few experienced additions but wtf do I know - BBM’s job is to take us forward and I trust his plan.
Yes, we’ve had a couple of disappointing results but this is a marathon, not a sprint.
The negativity which surfaces every time we lose is not helpful - let’s support the team fully and see where we are come the end of the season!

My hand was hovering over the panic button

It is !!!!!

And I am on the BBM bus, but he needs to wake up and smell the coffee. His job is to develop players, which he is amazing at, but more importantly, it is to win games.

We'd get mullered in the championship with these tactics, and potential suitors for his talent will have a red asterix against him as an idealist only suited to elite development teams, where the winning isn't as important as developing the players.

He panicked and went 442 (again), and we killed them because we have far better players, simples.

He needs to take a long hard look at himself and start to be more PROFESSIONAL!!

It is !!!!!

And I am on the BBM bus, but he needs to wake up and smell the coffee. His job is to develop players, which he is amazing at, but more importantly, it is to win games.

We'd get mullered in the championship with these tactics, and potential suitors for his talent will have a red asterix against him as an idealist only suited to elite development teams, where the winning isn't as important as developing the players.

He panicked and went 442 (again), and we killed them because we have far better players, simples.

He needs to take a long hard look at himself and start to be more PROFESSIONAL!!

I actually agree with you , your spot on

It is !!!!!

And I am on the BBM bus, but he needs to wake up and smell the coffee. His job is to develop players, which he is amazing at, but more importantly, it is to win games.

We'd get mullered in the championship with these tactics, and potential suitors for his talent will have a red asterix against him as an idealist only suited to elite development teams, where the winning isn't as important as developing the players.

He panicked and went 442 (again), and we killed them because we have far better players, simples.

He needs to take a long hard look at himself and start to be more PROFESSIONAL!!

But we're not in the Championship.

I'd also remind you that we beat Burnley with this system. They made a lot of changes, but it was still a Championship level squad.

The style is not going to change. The whole thing about having an identity is that you stick to it.

We were losing the game so chucked on more attacking players, and that did the job.

But if you're hoping for a change of style or formation then it's just not going to happen.

It's our identity now and I am still extremely thankful that we didn't hire Nathan Jones and have to watch his shit football every week. Much rather this to that.

You change the style when you're struggling in mid table, not when you're third in the league.

Of course there are things we can do better and that will only come by persisting with this style.


All that said, at least there is reasoning behind your post - unlike some.

It is !!!!!

And I am on the BBM bus, but he needs to wake up and smell the coffee. His job is to develop players, which he is amazing at, but more importantly, it is to win games.

We'd get mullered in the championship with these tactics, and potential suitors for his talent will have a red asterix against him as an idealist only suited to elite development teams, where the winning isn't as important as developing the players.

He panicked and went 442 (again), and we killed them because we have far better players, simples.

He needs to take a long hard look at himself and start to be more PROFESSIONAL!!

But we're not in the Championship.

I'd also remind you that we beat Burnley with this system. They made a lot of changes, but it was still a Championship level squad.

The style is not going to change. The whole thing about having an identity is that you stick to it.

We were losing the game so chucked on more attacking players, and that did the job.

But if you're hoping for a change of style or formation then it's just not going to happen.

It's our identity now and I am still extremely thankful that we didn't hire Nathan Jones and have to watch his shit football every week. Much rather this to that.

You change the style when you're struggling in mid table, not when you're third in the league.

Of course there are things we can do better and that will only come by persisting with this style.


All that said, at least there is reasoning behind your post - unlike some.

I agree he is not changing style, but today the players were self-indulgent and slow in possession as if they just had to turn up.

Teams have looked at us, and we are the division's Citeh, so teams are going to be super compact and wait for us to make mistakes. Our goals were from 2 long passes, a long run, and then the last two goals came from an overlap leading to a cross.

Their goals came from a horrendous no-look back pass, an own goal, Lowlors no no-look back header rather than let it go out for a throw which led to a wonder goal because we were all over the place.

This is a really professional physical league, teams will come to be compact and physical, we looked like an Erol Bulut team for 75 mins, pointless passes in undangerous areas. We need to pass slicker or beat their full backs and get the ball in and win the header or second ball.

Away we'll be better.