" Another good win on the road "

Great win on the road at Wigan today.

First half was very good and we deservedly led.

Second half was much more scrappy but we handled everything well before getting a late penalty to secure the win.

Wigan have created the most big chances in League One this season but we limited them well.

A really professional away performance.


Always big to win away and very happy with the three points.


My MOTM was Calum Chambers, excellent for the second game in a row.


Now onto Burton on Tuesday

Glad to see a more dominant display on the road.

Well managed and solid overall.

Worcester, I stand corrected re Osho and chambers.

Ned a very very professional performance/ Bluebirds

Always happy to win away but can't help feeling 2nd half we were not interested in scoring more to game manage things... dis we have two shots 2nd half with all our possession? This is a familiar patern so far his season! Still question why we bought Salech as had 2 crosses to him both created chances to score one got us the pen... whilst performance was good its a frustrating kind of performance.... reminds me of malkys team do what's required to win game 1 nil no more

Always happy to win away but can't help feeling 2nd half we were not interested in scoring more to game manage things... dis we have two shots 2nd half with all our possession? This is a familiar patern so far his season! Still question why we bought Salech as had 2 crosses to him both created chances to score one got us the pen... whilst performance was good its a frustrating kind of performance.... reminds me of malkys team do what's required to win game 1 nil no more

It's called game management Allan.

There was no need for us to pile forward because we were winning the game.

Wigan have created the most big chances in the league this season but because of our game management, we restricted them to little opportunities.

We had a clear game plan to get the three points, which worked. That's what matters.

We all know what it is but that doesn't mean it's exciting to watch and 1-0 always makes me nervous because one mistake and it could be 1-1 so personally I would like us to at least try & get another goal to give us some breathing space. But like you say, a win is a win & all's well that ends well.

Always happy to win away but can't help feeling 2nd half we were not interested in scoring more to game manage things... dis we have two shots 2nd half with all our possession? This is a familiar patern so far his season! Still question why we bought Salech as had 2 crosses to him both created chances to score one got us the pen... whilst performance was good its a frustrating kind of performance.... reminds me of malkys team do what's required to win game 1 nil no more

It's called game management Allan.

There was no need for us to pile forward because we were winning the game.

Wigan have created the most big chances in the league this season but because of our game management, we restricted them to little opportunities.

We had a clear game plan to get the three points, which worked. That's what matters.

Ned we didn't need to pile forward we did it naturally but you tell me how many times did we try to score 2nd half? Ball must have reached Willock Ashford a dozen time out wide but how many times did they attempt to find a player in penalty area or even attempt to go into box even when Salech came on,? Twice in last couple mins one resulted in a pen other nearly a goal... yes there's game management when it's last few minutes but last 45!!

Always happy to win away but can't help feeling 2nd half we were not interested in scoring more to game manage things... dis we have two shots 2nd half with all our possession? This is a familiar patern so far his season! Still question why we bought Salech as had 2 crosses to him both created chances to score one got us the pen... whilst performance was good its a frustrating kind of performance.... reminds me of malkys team do what's required to win game 1 nil no more

It's called game management Allan.

There was no need for us to pile forward because we were winning the game.

Wigan have created the most big chances in the league this season but because of our game management, we restricted them to little opportunities.

We had a clear game plan to get the three points, which worked. That's what matters.

Ned we didn't need to pile forward we did it naturally but you tell me how many times did we try to score 2nd half? Ball must have reached Willock Ashford a dozen time out wide but how many times did they attempt to find a player in penalty area or even attempt to go into box even when Salech came on,? Twice in last couple mins one resulted in a pen other nearly a goal... yes there's game management when it's last few minutes but last 45!!

Well we can agree to disagree then because I thought we managed the second half perfectly.

It was about limiting Wigan going forward because they're good at creating chances. Putting a cross in that is cleared would put us under unnecessary pressure in my view when we were winning the game.

Always happy to win away but can't help feeling 2nd half we were not interested in scoring more to game manage things... dis we have two shots 2nd half with all our possession? This is a familiar patern so far his season! Still question why we bought Salech as had 2 crosses to him both created chances to score one got us the pen... whilst performance was good its a frustrating kind of performance.... reminds me of malkys team do what's required to win game 1 nil no more

It's called game management Allan.

There was no need for us to pile forward because we were winning the game.

Wigan have created the most big chances in the league this season but because of our game management, we restricted them to little opportunities.

We had a clear game plan to get the three points, which worked. That's what matters.

Ned we didn't need to pile forward we did it naturally but you tell me how many times did we try to score 2nd half? Ball must have reached Willock Ashford a dozen time out wide but how many times did they attempt to find a player in penalty area or even attempt to go into box even when Salech came on,? Twice in last couple mins one resulted in a pen other nearly a goal... yes there's game management when it's last few minutes but last 45!!

Well we can agree to disagree then because I thought we managed the second half perfectly.

It was about limiting Wigan going forward because they're good at creating chances. Putting a cross in that is cleared would put us under unnecessary pressure in my view when we were winning the game.

Ned we were always in control of game unquestionably.... but no matter if we put 30 crosses in or none it wouldn't have altered our performance or control of game but putting crosses in especially with a 6ft4 striker would enhance our scoring chances... Salech had two good touches of ball one winning pen 2nd 40yrds out going towards his own goal tackling a midfielder!! As I've said previously this is a patern of our games let's hope other teams are less adept at playing Bradford way against us.... but an excellent win all same can't question that just the way we obtained it.

Worcester, I stand corrected re Osho and chambers.

alway respect for anyone that is prepared to say they got it wrong - usually indicates someone who can be trusted

Always happy to win away but can't help feeling 2nd half we were not interested in scoring more to game manage things... dis we have two shots 2nd half with all our possession? This is a familiar patern so far his season! Still question why we bought Salech as had 2 crosses to him both created chances to score one got us the pen... whilst performance was good its a frustrating kind of performance.... reminds me of malkys team do what's required to win game 1 nil no more

It's called game management Allan.

There was no need for us to pile forward because we were winning the game.

Wigan have created the most big chances in the league this season but because of our game management, we restricted them to little opportunities.

We had a clear game plan to get the three points, which worked. That's what matters.

Ned we didn't need to pile forward we did it naturally but you tell me how many times did we try to score 2nd half? Ball must have reached Willock Ashford a dozen time out wide but how many times did they attempt to find a player in penalty area or even attempt to go into box even when Salech came on,? Twice in last couple mins one resulted in a pen other nearly a goal... yes there's game management when it's last few minutes but last 45!!

Well we can agree to disagree then because I thought we managed the second half perfectly.

It was about limiting Wigan going forward because they're good at creating chances. Putting a cross in that is cleared would put us under unnecessary pressure in my view when we were winning the game.

Ned we were always in control of game unquestionably.... but no matter if we put 30 crosses in or none it wouldn't have altered our performance or control of game but putting crosses in especially with a 6ft4 striker would enhance our scoring chances... Salech had two good touches of ball one winning pen 2nd 40yrds out going towards his own goal tackling a midfielder!! As I've said previously this is a patern of our games let's hope other teams are less adept at playing Bradford way against us.... but an excellent win all same can't question that just the way we obtained it.

Put 30 crosses in and each offers one of two options - we score or we lose possession and control. kWaiting for the right moment squeezes the opponent, tires them out and slowly creates spaces.

I've always been a huge defender of Warnock's football, especially in the first ten games or so when we went up under him and that game was all about getting to the wings quickly, playing traditional wingers rather than invwerted that could go outside their man and get to the by-line to whip it in. We destroyed Wolves and Sheff Utd with that style and before anyone calls it Warnock ball - it was very similar to the style Bayen had when they one the Champions League back in 2013. Fast direct but not long ball.

We are now playing a more refined approach, far more patient, in line with Pep's sides where BBM learned alot.

The similarity in both approaches is the players are exceptionally well drilled to know where they and their team mates should be.

One thing that I'm impressed with in BBMs set up is although it is a patient build up, its not the standard tiki taka replica (like Swansea played for years) that doesn't move forward. One thing BBM has in his two triangle system is quickly moving the play into the opposition half. Chambers and Osho were largely just in our half for most of the game when we were in possession.

Not going to be everyones cup of tea and your right Allan it will end up in a lot more one or two nil wins than anything, but after the last few years of pcik n mix managers having an identity is a refreshing change for me

Worcester, I stand corrected re Osho and chambers.

alway respect for anyone that is prepared to say they got it wrong - usually indicates someone who can be trusted

Cheers mate. Comments appreciated

Always happy to win away but can't help feeling 2nd half we were not interested in scoring more to game manage things... dis we have two shots 2nd half with all our possession? This is a familiar patern so far his season! Still question why we bought Salech as had 2 crosses to him both created chances to score one got us the pen... whilst performance was good its a frustrating kind of performance.... reminds me of malkys team do what's required to win game 1 nil no more

It's called game management Allan.

There was no need for us to pile forward because we were winning the game.

Wigan have created the most big chances in the league this season but because of our game management, we restricted them to little opportunities.

We had a clear game plan to get the three points, which worked. That's what matters.

Ned we didn't need to pile forward we did it naturally but you tell me how many times did we try to score 2nd half? Ball must have reached Willock Ashford a dozen time out wide but how many times did they attempt to find a player in penalty area or even attempt to go into box even when Salech came on,? Twice in last couple mins one resulted in a pen other nearly a goal... yes there's game management when it's last few minutes but last 45!!

Well we can agree to disagree then because I thought we managed the second half perfectly.

It was about limiting Wigan going forward because they're good at creating chances. Putting a cross in that is cleared would put us under unnecessary pressure in my view when we were winning the game.

Ned we were always in control of game unquestionably.... but no matter if we put 30 crosses in or none it wouldn't have altered our performance or control of game but putting crosses in especially with a 6ft4 striker would enhance our scoring chances... Salech had two good touches of ball one winning pen 2nd 40yrds out going towards his own goal tackling a midfielder!! As I've said previously this is a patern of our games let's hope other teams are less adept at playing Bradford way against us.... but an excellent win all same can't question that just the way we obtained it.

Put 30 crosses in and each offers one of two options - we score or we lose possession and control. kWaiting for the right moment squeezes the opponent, tires them out and slowly creates spaces.

I've always been a huge defender of Warnock's football, especially in the first ten games or so when we went up under him and that game was all about getting to the wings quickly, playing traditional wingers rather than invwerted that could go outside their man and get to the by-line to whip it in. We destroyed Wolves and Sheff Utd with that style and before anyone calls it Warnock ball - it was very similar to the style Bayen had when they one the Champions League back in 2013. Fast direct but not long ball.

We are now playing a more refined approach, far more patient, in line with Pep's sides where BBM learned alot.

The similarity in both approaches is the players are exceptionally well drilled to know where they and their team mates should be.

One thing that I'm impressed with in BBMs set up is although it is a patient build up, its not the standard tiki taka replica (like Swansea played for years) that doesn't move forward. One thing BBM has in his two triangle system is quickly moving the play into the opposition half. Chambers and Osho were largely just in our half for most of the game when we were in possession.

Not going to be everyones cup of tea and your right Allan it will end up in a lot more one or two nil wins than anything, but after the last few years of pcik n mix managers having an identity is a refreshing change for me

Can't disagree about it being a refreshing change from past couple of seasons...I've on several occasions said its a replica of man c games build up to edge area and try and work way in with intricate passing? This as produced good goals even yesterday caused the penalty... but it also stops good opportunities to have shots at goal or finding a 6ft4 striker who as we know can score if given chance but giving him a couple of chances a game is not best use of our possession in the final 3rd of pitch.. against burnley we had 73% in that area and suggest a lot of games we are dominant when it comes to final 3rd but limited penalty area action.. yesterday classic example if Wigan had scored the overriding complaint would have been we don't put ball in middle enough and that's been a complaint all season.... but the football is great just think it lacks the killer touch that makes games much more comfortable ...then at least can enjoy without being nervous we'll let game slip...at end day as you say 1or2 nil is good enough and I've said we could get double promotion ..

Great win away tbh although I'd love to see more crosses in the box when they have the chance and players in there moving about but it's just the way we play now under BBM and it's getting results which is the main thing

Just to clarify I am not complaining about the performances they have in general been excellent and one loss in 12 is brilliant but slightly frustrated that we could be better with more use of Salech inside area rather than playing on edge of it.....

Just to clarify I am not complaining about the performances they have in general been excellent and one loss in 12 is brilliant but slightly frustrated that we could be better with more use of Salech inside area rather than playing on edge of it.....

Are you watching the Arsenal v Newcastle game? That goal is why tall players need balls into the box.

Just to clarify I am not complaining about the performances they have in general been excellent and one loss in 12 is brilliant but slightly frustrated that we could be better with more use of Salech inside area rather than playing on edge of it.....

Are you watching the Arsenal v Newcastle game? That goal is why tall players need balls into the box.

But another thing is Newcastle play a completely different style to us.

Just to clarify I am not complaining about the performances they have in general been excellent and one loss in 12 is brilliant but slightly frustrated that we could be better with more use of Salech inside area rather than playing on edge of it.....

Are you watching the Arsenal v Newcastle game? That goal is why tall players need balls into the box.

But another thing is Newcastle play a completely different style to us.

That has zero to do with what I said. Alan was talking about putting balls into the box for a tall player, this was from a corner, nothing to do with style, unless you're saying we should never put balls into the box, which I doubt you are.

Just to clarify I am not complaining about the performances they have in general been excellent and one loss in 12 is brilliant but slightly frustrated that we could be better with more use of Salech inside area rather than playing on edge of it.....

Are you watching the Arsenal v Newcastle game? That goal is why tall players need balls into the box.

But another thing is Newcastle play a completely different style to us.

That has zero to do with what I said. Alan was talking about putting balls into the box for a tall player, this was from a corner, nothing to do with style, unless you're saying we should never put balls into the box, which I doubt you are.

We made 21 crosses yesterday. It's not like we're not putting them in, they are just not quite accurate enough.

Fortunately our passing game has been so good that we are capable of scoring in those situations.

Just to clarify I am not complaining about the performances they have in general been excellent and one loss in 12 is brilliant but slightly frustrated that we could be better with more use of Salech inside area rather than playing on edge of it.....

Are you watching the Arsenal v Newcastle game? That goal is why tall players need balls into the box.

But another thing is Newcastle play a completely different style to us.

That has zero to do with what I said. Alan was talking about putting balls into the box for a tall player, this was from a corner, nothing to do with style, unless you're saying we should never put balls into the box, which I doubt you are.

Our Corners/dead ball play are pathetic in general ... out of those crosses yesterday how many were useful? I am saying at times we have 3 or 4 players in boc from open play but we never want to put ball into them and it's been a complaint since start season.... yes our style play as changed but still need to put ball in an area where you can score! No coincidence when Salech gets a decent cross to him he is dangerous and often scores.... point in question last away game 7 mins added time crosses in box after 6+mins zero despite opportunities to do so.....last kick game a cross salech scores with header... football is a simple game really.

Stats show 15 attempts with 5 on target. Away from home, you can’t argue with that.

Stats show 15 attempts with 5 on target. Away from home, you can’t argue with that.

Bbm says wants to turn their dominance into goals? Well need to get the ball to Salech more often inside area its not rocket science!

Good Bounce Back Win

Stats show 15 attempts with 5 on target. Away from home, you can’t argue with that.

Bbm says wants to turn their dominance into goals? Well need to get the ball to Salech more often inside area its not rocket science!

Watch Man City and they play the same way. Rarely do they put a load of crosses into the box; they’re coached to keep hold of the ball, tire the opposition and look for the ‘perfect’ opening. It’s clear imo that that is the philosophy that bbm has brought with him.

Stats show 15 attempts with 5 on target. Away from home, you can’t argue with that.

Bbm says wants to turn their dominance into goals? Well need to get the ball to Salech more often inside area its not rocket science!

Watch Man City and they play the same way. Rarely do they put a load of crosses into the box; they’re coached to keep hold of the ball, tire the opposition and look for the ‘perfect’ opening. It’s clear imo that that is the philosophy that bbm has brought with him.

I've said this many times the only difference is we don't have Haaland in team.... the truth is we could easily have lost 3 of the games we've played in.... as fish says div 1 players not as clinical as championship.... all well being another Man c but as bbm says need to create more goals? We play great football create good goals as well but cannot tell me putting ball into middle more when we have 3 or more players in box is going to cost us anything but goals? It's no wonder we are crap at corners/deadball situations we don't do it enough in open play....obviously Don't need to do it every attack but need to be looking for Salech more when he's inside area not aimlessly put crosses in as we are seeing most of time.....it's a balance I feel is not right but hopefully bbm will address now he's saying need more goals.

Stats show 15 attempts with 5 on target. Away from home, you can’t argue with that.

Bbm says wants to turn their dominance into goals? Well need to get the ball to Salech more often inside area its not rocket science!

Watch Man City and they play the same way. Rarely do they put a load of crosses into the box; they’re coached to keep hold of the ball, tire the opposition and look for the ‘perfect’ opening. It’s clear imo that that is the philosophy that bbm has brought with him.

I've said this many times the only difference is we don't have Haaland in team.... the truth is we could easily have lost 3 of the games we've played in.... as fish says div 1 players not as clinical as championship.... all well being another Man c but as bbm says need to create more goals? We play great football create good goals as well but cannot tell me putting ball into middle more when we have 3 or more players in box is going to cost us anything but goals? It's no wonder we are crap at corners/deadball situations we don't do it enough in open play....obviously Don't need to do it every attack but need to be looking for Salech more when he's inside area not aimlessly put crosses in as we are seeing most of time.....it's a balance I feel is not right but hopefully bbm will address now he's saying need more goals.

Fair points Allan.

Stats show 15 attempts with 5 on target. Away from home, you can’t argue with that.

Bbm says wants to turn their dominance into goals? Well need to get the ball to Salech more often inside area its not rocket science!

Watch Man City and they play the same way. Rarely do they put a load of crosses into the box; they’re coached to keep hold of the ball, tire the opposition and look for the ‘perfect’ opening. It’s clear imo that that is the philosophy that bbm has brought with him.

I've said this many times the only difference is we don't have Haaland in team.... the truth is we could easily have lost 3 of the games we've played in.... as fish says div 1 players not as clinical as championship.... all well being another Man c but as bbm says need to create more goals? We play great football create good goals as well but cannot tell me putting ball into middle more when we have 3 or more players in box is going to cost us anything but goals? It's no wonder we are crap at corners/deadball situations we don't do it enough in open play....obviously Don't need to do it every attack but need to be looking for Salech more when he's inside area not aimlessly put crosses in as we are seeing most of time.....it's a balance I feel is not right but hopefully bbm will address now he's saying need more goals.

Man City played that way before they had Haaland, so it's got nothing to do with that.

Stats show 15 attempts with 5 on target. Away from home, you can’t argue with that.

Bbm says wants to turn their dominance into goals? Well need to get the ball to Salech more often inside area its not rocket science!

Watch Man City and they play the same way. Rarely do they put a load of crosses into the box; they’re coached to keep hold of the ball, tire the opposition and look for the ‘perfect’ opening. It’s clear imo that that is the philosophy that bbm has brought with him.

I've said this many times the only difference is we don't have Haaland in team.... the truth is we could easily have lost 3 of the games we've played in.... as fish says div 1 players not as clinical as championship.... all well being another Man c but as bbm says need to create more goals? We play great football create good goals as well but cannot tell me putting ball into middle more when we have 3 or more players in box is going to cost us anything but goals? It's no wonder we are crap at corners/deadball situations we don't do it enough in open play....obviously Don't need to do it every attack but need to be looking for Salech more when he's inside area not aimlessly put crosses in as we are seeing most of time.....it's a balance I feel is not right but hopefully bbm will address now he's saying need more goals.

Man City played that way before they had Haaland, so it's got nothing to do with that.

True but had Jesus and agearo before him so point still stands...
Tonight 35 touches in pen area 10 shots at goal Burton 6 shots with far less touches..... why are we doing game management with 2 added mins left in 1st half? Attacking free kick passes sideways lose possession

Stats show 15 attempts with 5 on target. Away from home, you can’t argue with that.

Bbm says wants to turn their dominance into goals? Well need to get the ball to Salech more often inside area its not rocket science!

Watch Man City and they play the same way. Rarely do they put a load of crosses into the box; they’re coached to keep hold of the ball, tire the opposition and look for the ‘perfect’ opening. It’s clear imo that that is the philosophy that bbm has brought with him.

I've said this many times the only difference is we don't have Haaland in team.... the truth is we could easily have lost 3 of the games we've played in.... as fish says div 1 players not as clinical as championship.... all well being another Man c but as bbm says need to create more goals? We play great football create good goals as well but cannot tell me putting ball into middle more when we have 3 or more players in box is going to cost us anything but goals? It's no wonder we are crap at corners/deadball situations we don't do it enough in open play....obviously Don't need to do it every attack but need to be looking for Salech more when he's inside area not aimlessly put crosses in as we are seeing most of time.....it's a balance I feel is not right but hopefully bbm will address now he's saying need more goals.

Man City played that way before they had Haaland, so it's got nothing to do with that.

Saw city play again tonight well it looked like city except had Haaland in team! Bbm definitely follows peps philosophy of game management man c total control of game pass pass and pass again while leading...... very little attempt to score another goal despite hoddles concerns they should try... anyway they suffered consequences by conceding last min penalty so drew game... it really looked like watching city!
Haaland 2goals just a bit better than Salech at scoring! Maybe he should look at how Harley does it?