WHY WERE WE SO FAR OFF IT YESTERDAY ?

Cannot work out was it was the international break, the cancelled game, Chambers slowing the game down (like at port vale), Perry NG’s usual b*llock drop, Stockport’s high press, or we simply couldn’t handle the more physical opposition?i

I don' t believe the usual off day. They have been training.

We were really lucky they also hit the woodwork, like at Port Vale, or at Luton, we where very lucky Trott made 3 great saves.

So maybe lady luck was on our side, as I could not recognise the team from previous games, or was it simply Murphy tried the defensive game, like at Port Vale, and it back fired again.

Maybe stockport just upped there game, like I have said before?

We are every oppositions cup final this season, last years big club dropping down a division. Added on that we are a Welsh club.

Monty probably a bit of everything. It is common for clubs to not do well after a break. We must have had 6 or more players out of the squad during it; plus Stockport raised their game and with help of the referee, made it difficult for our passing game to flourish!

But BBM got it right, team selection wise, and if we had the team that finished the game on at the start, it probably wouldn't have made that much difference. The subs were game changers, that's what subs should be for.

Still, there is a problem with crosses. Dead ball ones are always aimed far post to Lawlor, avoiding Salech, and in open play, we don't put it in enough.

I wrote as we scored that in 7 mins of added time not there was not one cross in box up until then, and when we eventually did, we scored. Surely that should tell BBM and his players something?

Allan
Yes our wingers always cutting in trying to get into the box tanner was our only winger who would cross the ball.

We weren't at our best but I'm still giving credit to Stockport, they did everything well.

Stockport were 3rd last season and will be in the top six again this season. They also showed a reaction from a poor performance in their last game.

At the end of the day, we got a good away point when we weren't at our best. Got to be pleased with that. We aren't going to play well in every game, no team does that.

Allan
Yes our wingers always cutting in trying to get into the box tanner was our only winger who would cross the ball.

No surprise 1st decent cross and salech scored .... nearly every time gets that kind of cross he either scores or forces keeper to make good save so why font we fo it more often? Is it because of bbms man c role as that's how they generally !

There will be days like yesterday throughout the season, we won't play well every game, but the signs of a promotion winning team is still picking up points when you play shit and that's exactly what we're doing

I honestly believe BBM made a terrible mistake and will learn by it and don’t forget he’s still learning as well

Plus We don’t put crosses in the box very much to Salech that needs addressing ASAP.

Probably a bit of everything. We won't be at our best every game.

Stockport are the best team in this division going off last season and will be up there the end of the season.

Probably a bit of everything. We won't be at our best every game.

Stockport are the best team in this division going off last season and will be up there the end of the season.

Stockport perhaps not quite the best team in this division as they are 10th in the table,
but believe they would be in the top 6 end of season

Hopefully we will learn from this performance take the point move on expect a big reaction next weekend BLUEBIRDS

Couple of reasons in my opinion,

Firstly Chambers and NG, both are just not playing to the best of what we know they can , used to do.

Our players were bullied / out muscled at times. Saw Ashford on numerous occasions with a one on one against the Stockport left back Pym? Just completely out muscled as he tried to play the ball around him.

Playing out from the back, as we do at home? Yesterday on many occasions Trott just kicked long, ball in touch, or to Salach who was man handled (no foul). We do tend to do this away.

And lastly, we have to give credit to Stockport who did their home work on us, pressed throughout (until final 10 mins). But this is some thing that we need to understand will happen at every away game - every team will want to raise their game to beat us!

Stockport are a good team.

Stockport are in 10th position in the league table.

We haven't looked wonderful away from home full stop. Luton was probably the best performance but Trott was MOTM in that game, Wimbledon we shaded it, Port Vale and Stockport we've been poor. It's been night and day compared with our home performances

Probably a bit of everything. We won't be at our best every game.

Stockport are the best team in this division going off last season and will be up there the end of the season.

Stockport perhaps not quite the best team in this division as they are 10th in the table,
but believe they would be in the top 6 end of season

They finished 3rd last season, top 2 went up automatically meaning going off last season they are the best team. Obviously recruitment over the summer and the promoted and relegated sides come into it aswell.

The bookies have them as 1 of the favourites to go up. It's still to early to look at the table, im sure there will be a lot of change from now until the end.

A point away at a team who will be challenging for promotion alongside you will always be a good point, especially when you've been nowhere near your best.

Probably a bit of everything. We won't be at our best every game.

Stockport are the best team in this division going off last season and will be up there the end of the season.

Stockport perhaps not quite the best team in this division as they are 10th in the table,
but believe they would be in the top 6 end of season

They finished 3rd last season, top 2 went up automatically meaning going off last season they are the best team. Obviously recruitment over the summer and the promoted and relegated sides come into it aswell.

The bookies have them as 1 of the favourites to go up. It's still to early to look at the table, im sure there will be a lot of change from now until the end.

A point away at a team who will be challenging for promotion alongside you will always be a good point, especially when you've been nowhere near your best.

I don't think Stockport were that good to be honest, we just didn't turn up.

Probably a bit of everything. We won't be at our best every game.

Stockport are the best team in this division going off last season and will be up there the end of the season.

Stockport perhaps not quite the best team in this division as they are 10th in the table,
but believe they would be in the top 6 end of season

They finished 3rd last season, top 2 went up automatically meaning going off last season they are the best team. Obviously recruitment over the summer and the promoted and relegated sides come into it aswell.

The bookies have them as 1 of the favourites to go up. It's still to early to look at the table, im sure there will be a lot of change from now until the end.

A point away at a team who will be challenging for promotion alongside you will always be a good point, especially when you've been nowhere near your best.

Totally agree, Stockport will definitely be in the top six again.

I thought they were very good yesterday, did everything well. Sometimes you have to give credit to the opponent.

Yes I agree we’re useless terrible sack bbn Now clueless I know we’re top of the league with a game in hand but we should have 68 points to our credit and a goal difference of 123444 plus still that would not keep Half the people o n this board happy
Still 39 new signings in January shirt help hopefully

Probably a bit of everything. We won't be at our best every game.

Stockport are the best team in this division going off last season and will be up there the end of the season.

Stockport perhaps not quite the best team in this division as they are 10th in the table,
but believe they would be in the top 6 end of season

They finished 3rd last season, top 2 went up automatically meaning going off last season they are the best team. Obviously recruitment over the summer and the promoted and relegated sides come into it aswell.

The bookies have them as 1 of the favourites to go up. It's still to early to look at the table, im sure there will be a lot of change from now until the end.

A point away at a team who will be challenging for promotion alongside you will always be a good point, especially when you've been nowhere near your best.

Totally agree, Stockport will definitely be in the top six again.

I thought they were very good yesterday, did everything well. Sometimes you have to give credit to the opponent.

I didn't think they were very good at putting the ball in the net, missed loads of chances, like a few teams we've played. Finishing has been poor.

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We haven't looked wonderful away from home full stop. Luton was probably the best performance but Trott was MOTM in that game, Wimbledon we shaded it, Port Vale and Stockport we've been poor. It's been night and day compared with our home performances

I remember (last season) when we were shocking at home and away.

Probably a bit of everything. We won't be at our best every game.

Stockport are the best team in this division going off last season and will be up there the end of the season.

Stockport perhaps not quite the best team in this division as they are 10th in the table,
but believe they would be in the top 6 end of season

They finished 3rd last season, top 2 went up automatically meaning going off last season they are the best team. Obviously recruitment over the summer and the promoted and relegated sides come into it aswell.

The bookies have them as 1 of the favourites to go up. It's still to early to look at the table, im sure there will be a lot of change from now until the end.

A point away at a team who will be challenging for promotion alongside you will always be a good point, especially when you've been nowhere near your best.

Totally agree, Stockport will definitely be in the top six again.

I thought they were very good yesterday, did everything well. Sometimes you have to give credit to the opponent.

I didn't think they were very good at putting the ball in the net, missed loads of chances, like a few teams we've played. Finishing has been poor.

Well that's just the difference between Championship and League One strikers. Just like there's a gap in quality between Premier League and Championship strikers.

Stockport are in 10th position in the league table.

It’s early days yet, and teams are still sorting themselves out. Prior to yesterday, Stockport had a rare loss, but before that they were on our tails.

We need to remember that a 3 point swing at this point in a season, can make several places difference up or down

I fully expect Stockport to be up there come the season’s end; hopefully, still behind us, as there won’t be too many who will do that!

I think Stockport played well. We didn't play to our strengths, largely because we couldn't. The passing wasn't slick and they had 3 on our danger players but we weren't able to deal with that and work with others. Joel was a bit anonymous. We had joy down the left every time we tried. But we only tried a couple of times.

However we are routinely getting our players dragged down but it's never punished. Whereas Ng only had to sniff at their player and he goes down like a sack of you know what.

If those challenges were penalised with consistency then that does change the flow of the game. It stops them having their tails up and feeling they can get away with a lot. It allows us to get some control to start dictating play.

Yes we were lucky with some of their shooting but trott is usually where he needs to be. Even when being poor, it is no coincidence that we haven't conceded in open play. The lads work hard and track back to make it very difficult to get dangerous shots off.

Cannot work out was it was the international break, the cancelled game, Chambers slowing the game down (like at port vale), Perry NG’s usual b*llock drop, Stockport’s high press, or we simply couldn’t handle the more physical opposition?i

I don' t believe the usual off day. They have been training.

We were really lucky they also hit the woodwork, like at Port Vale, or at Luton, we where very lucky Trott made 3 great saves.

So maybe lady luck was on our side, as I could not recognise the team from previous games, or was it simply Murphy tried the defensive game, like at Port Vale, and it back fired again.

Maybe stockport just upped there game, like I have said before?

We are every oppositions cup final this season, last years big club dropping down a division. Added on that we are a Welsh club.

i said to my mate at the plymouth game the international breaks will hurt our momentum

Cannot work out was it was the international break, the cancelled game, Chambers slowing the game down (like at port vale), Perry NG’s usual b*llock drop, Stockport’s high press, or we simply couldn’t handle the more physical opposition?i

I don' t believe the usual off day. They have been training.

We were really lucky they also hit the woodwork, like at Port Vale, or at Luton, we where very lucky Trott made 3 great saves.

So maybe lady luck was on our side, as I could not recognise the team from previous games, or was it simply Murphy tried the defensive game, like at Port Vale, and it back fired again.

Maybe stockport just upped there game, like I have said before?

We are every oppositions cup final this season, last years big club dropping down a division. Added on that we are a Welsh club.

We had more players tired from away travel and international duty. The break gave them more rest, and some of our players missed out on training with the team. Lawler and Kapacio were a massive loss, but we still drew away, onwards and upwards we will be better tomorrow and Saturday.

Couple of reasons in my opinion,

Firstly Chambers and NG, both are just not playing to the best of what we know they can , used to do.

Our players were bullied / out muscled at times. Saw Ashford on numerous occasions with a one on one against the Stockport left back Pym? Just completely out muscled as he tried to play the ball around him.
Playing out from the back, as we do at home? Yesterday on many occasions Trott just kicked long, ball in touch, or to Salach who was man handled (no foul). We do tend to do this away.


And lastly, we have to give credit to Stockport who did their home work on us, pressed throughout (until final 10 mins). But this is some thing that we need to understand will happen at every away game - every team will want to raise their game to beat us!

"Playing out from the back, as we do at home? Yesterday on many occasions Trott just kicked long, ball in touch, or to Salach who was man handled (no foul). We do tend to do this away."

We missed Lawlor and Kapacio, thats part of the reason we played the ball out less and partly because they were high pressing and all over us like a rash.

Stockport are in 10th position in the league table.

It’s early days yet, and teams are still sorting themselves out. Prior to yesterday, Stockport had a rare loss, but before that they were on our tails.

We need to remember that a 3 point swing at this point in a season, can make several places difference up or down

I fully expect Stockport to be up there come the season’s end; hopefully, still behind us, as there won’t be too many who will do that!

Yep far far too early.

Lets throw a spanner in the works. We have been second best all season away from home and we have rode our luck. We have been bullied and I put this down to our lack of experience. Serious it feels like men, our opponents, against boys. We need to be more aggressive going forward and get the ball to Salach. Thats the simple solution.

Stockport are in 10th position in the league table.

It’s early days yet, and teams are still sorting themselves out. Prior to yesterday, Stockport had a rare loss, but before that they were on our tails.

We need to remember that a 3 point swing at this point in a season, can make several places difference up or down

I fully expect Stockport to be up there come the season’s end; hopefully, still behind us, as there won’t be too many who will do that!

Yep far far too early.

Lets throw a spanner in the works. We have been second best all season away from home and we have rode our luck. We have been bullied and I put this down to our lack of experience. Serious it feels like men, our opponents, against boys. We need to be more aggressive going forward and get the ball to Salach. Thats the simple solution.

Yes says something when being 2nd best every away game but not losing any of the games! But the Salech problem I've said from day one we play like man c play? around penalty area looking for ways to attack into it rather than cross to Salech ...classic example Saturday 7 mins added time not once did ball go into area when we needed to score!! last kick of game we cross Salech heads in football is that simple...

Port Vale and Stockport yes lucky to get a draw, Wimbledon and Luton very good away perfomances.

I'm not sure why people think we are just going to win easy away from home.

They got battered by Plymouth away and were due a big reaction. Their manager has not lost 2 on the bounce and really got into his players. They got that reaction and stopped RC getting on the ball. It's small margins us being off our best and them being right on it. Take the point move on and it keeps the momentum going into the next game.

Bradford should be another big test with their current form but I fancy us to be bang on it as well!! They score for fun against our defence will be interesting. The game should also be more open for our players to get on the ball. More space for RC & CW will be dangerous. Maybe time for ID to replace CA and DL & RK to also return.......It's got the making of an exciting game

it's still early in the season so I'm not too worried

we definitely need to work on away performances but I'm sure bbm knows this

I think having Perry and Chambers thrown in unsettled the back 5, I can see why bbm thought to rest kpakio and Lawlor but
my only nitpick is I thought Osho should have been brought in instead of Chambers

but I noticed colwill had to drop a lot deeper because we struggled passing out from the back and it was making it hard for us to create up the other end

then trott was reduced to long balls

but credit to Stockport I think they did their homework they forced us to play like that at times due to the high press

so work needs to be done but at least we have time to sort it and it hasn't cost us a loss yet so there's a bonus