O/T Migrants

What’s people’s thoughts on migration, legal and illegal?

Migration should be controlled to the needs of the country . Visa system

I'm someone who embraces legal migration as long as it is controlled.

Don't think anybody supports illegal migration. But it's not as easy to stop as some seem to think. If someone says they have a simple solution, I believe they're wrong because there is no simple solution.

No problem with visa entries but human rights
Law needs overhauling so that crooks ect can't stay and Lawyers milking country out of millions can find work elsewhere ! same to the charities that employ solicitors to stop deportation at last minute so prolonging process...and why can't border control boats/taxi service take them straight back to French beach they came from? Do that for couple weeks soon stop them coming by sea. Out of control now.

If you say one word against the fact we can’t get a nhs dentist or doctor and they can you are branded a racist

Only a functional controlled visa system would work as far as legal immigration is concerned.

And as far as illegals are concerned, the usually woke BBC headlines today are something I agree with in Europe having to now "raise the drawbridge". And that needs to happen quickly. Worth a read over a cuppa

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5e5q7w41eo

Stop it all together

We need to fix our own country and make sure we are okay before we start helping others.

There's too many of the older generation who have paid taxes all their life and worked hard, that can't even afford to put the heating on anymore.

Then we are spending millions putting migrants/illegals up in hotels, free food, heating and whatever else.

Stop it all together

Same for Brits wishing to emigrate?

Migration should be controlled to the needs of the country . Visa system

Agree. Points system I reckon.

Migration should be controlled to the needs of the country . Visa system

Agree. Points system I reckon.

Stop it all together

Same for Brits wishing to emigrate?

That is a very strange comparison.

If someone comes here and has money and a job to go into and will improve the country that’s fair enough.

But people coming here just to take take take, is not acceptable.

Stop it all together

Same for Brits wishing to emigrate?

That is a very strange comparison.

If someone comes here and has money and a job to go into and will improve the country that’s fair enough.

But people coming here just to take take take, is not acceptable.

100% agree, as I’ve replied in the 2nd or 3rd post down. Points system and responding to the country’s needs is the way forward.
My comment that you’re referring g to was answering the statement ‘stop it altogether’.

We should have a points system.

Migrants coming here need to be a valued asset to us. That being where we have a shortage of skilled workers. They should also have a time limit of how long they can stay for. Their application should not include permanent residency.

Stop it all together

Same for Brits wishing to emigrate?

That is a very strange comparison.

If someone comes here and has money and a job to go into and will improve the country that’s fair enough.

But people coming here just to take take take, is not acceptable.

100% agree, as I’ve replied in the 2nd or 3rd post down. Points system and responding to the country’s needs is the way forward.
My comment that you’re referring g to was answering the statement ‘stop it altogether’.

My mistake, I miss took what you said

I just had surgery St the, Royal Gwent. 3 Philopo nurses in the operating room and recovery
Surgeon was of Indian descent. Second in comrade probably second generation UK Muslim
I daresay these people could get work in Aus & NZ.
The average person will be the worse off. NHS waiting lists, will sore even higher.
The well off won't care.

I'm ok with legal migration. But its the illegals that's causing this trouble with protests outside hotels. I've always believe and reckon the british government set up a detention/migrant centre on a island off the british Isles. If they pass all the checks then and only then they can step foot onto british soil, if they dont pass the checks or arrived illegally then they stay on island till deportation. This is my personal view I know its harsh, but hard decisions need to be taken.

Stop it all together

Same for Brits wishing to emigrate?

That is a very strange comparison.

If someone comes here and has money and a job to go into and will improve the country that’s fair enough.

But people coming here just to take take take, is not acceptable.

100% agree, as I’ve replied in the 2nd or 3rd post down. Points system and responding to the country’s needs is the way forward.
My comment that you’re referring g to was answering the statement ‘stop it altogether’.

My mistake, I miss took what you said

We’re importing millions legally without investing in infrastructure, the population has increased by 10m since we las built a reservoir, our roads are a mess, railways the same and NHS is on its arse. So I believe we have to be much stricter and more selective who we let in. Illegals should be interned in secure camps and returned to their home countries or a third country.

Illegal - Hard no
Legal - If you got a skill, yes

Migration should be controlled to the needs of the country . Visa system

Agree. Points system I reckon.

Totally agree

Immigration is out of control. The vast majority of immigrants should be returned to their region. We can send them aid,(if they genuinely need it)
Travelling though Europe to reach Britain is a joke.
According to Demographic experts the native British is set to become the minority by the mid 2060's, yet we've not a referendum on this matter

The fact that they have to be housed in hotels tells you that we have a problem, I don't think any of these people are doctors or nurses. Some are probably genuine assylum seekers but most are economic migrants. Coming across the channel on a dingy should be made a crime and an automatic ban from applying.

Immigration is out of control. The vast majority of immigrants should be returned to their region. We can send them aid,(if they genuinely need it)
Travelling though Europe to reach Britain is a joke.
According to Demographic experts the native British is set to become the minority by the mid 2060's, yet we've not a referendum on this matter

White population after the 2nd world war in london was 95% its now 38% .

No issue at all with people entering legally. Most of those will typically have a job to go to. Will be paying taxes and contribute positively.

I do have an issue with illegal migration. Not wanting to sound like the new Green Party leader but I don’t think they are the cause of all our ills.
But there is an issue. We have no idea who is rocking up here. We have significant issues of safety with people showing up that for all we l know could be escaped murderers.
Not saying everyone is by any means. Buy we don’t know is my point.

We absolutely should help this In need but firstly I’m not convinced everyone coming across the Channel is a genuine asylum seeker. Also as an island surrounded by Ireland, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark and Norway, we are unlikely to be the first safe country.

Perhaps we need to set up processing centres in those countries to fast track hear applications and forcibly block any dangerous travel by
Dinghy to minimise risk to people’s lives? Anyone caught on a dinghy trying to cross would be taken back to one of those countries processing centres and dealt with there?

We also probably need to look at the benefits available to try and assess various motivations. Are we too generous? People that are here and allowed to stay or being processed and in limbo - would it be better if they could work and thus not be taking from the tax payer?

We’re importing millions legally without investing in infrastructure, the population has increased by 10m since we las built a reservoir, our roads are a mess, railways the same and NHS is on its arse. So I believe we have to be much stricter and more selective who we let in. Illegals should be interned in secure camps and returned to their home countries or a third country.

We absolutely haven’t I agree. I do believe though that it’s somewhat related to how socialised we are as a country.
Consequently everting us budgeted based on, In effect, last years tax take based on last years revenue paid by last years population.

Socialised systems can’t adapt like a non socialised system can.

While I’m not proposing this,
If you own say a dental practice. If all of a sudden 3000 homes were built directly opposite your building, if everything was private you think - great. I’ve potentially got thousands more patients. So you can invest in a new surgery and staff to meet the need.

If you are entirely NHS your budget is governed by the previous year and if the population the was 3k less. You can’t invest because the money isn’t there. There will at best be a lag. And that’s assuming central government wants to pay more!

We’re importing millions legally without investing in infrastructure, the population has increased by 10m since we las built a reservoir, our roads are a mess, railways the same and NHS is on its arse. So I believe we have to be much stricter and more selective who we let in. Illegals should be interned in secure camps and returned to their home countries or a third country.

We absolutely haven’t I agree. I do believe though that it’s somewhat related to how socialised we are as a country.
Consequently everting us budgeted based on, In effect, last years tax take based on last years revenue paid by last years population.

Socialised systems can’t adapt like a non socialised system can.

While I’m not proposing this,
If you own say a dental practice. If all of a sudden 3000 homes were built directly opposite your building, if everything was private you think - great. I’ve potentially got thousands more patients. So you can invest in a new surgery and staff to meet the need.

If you are entirely NHS your budget is governed by the previous year and if the population the was 3k less. You can’t invest because the money isn’t there. There will at best be a lag. And that’s assuming central government wants to pay more!

Dentists and GP surgeries are suffering from ridiculous contracts introduced by govmnts? No coincidence that GPs are following dentists in handing back contracts due to lack of funding results less GPS less nhs dentist. Hence thousands dont have a dentist....... private companies thought get in on act regarding GPs but found that it doesn't work especially in Wales and health boards have to take practices back in house or lose GPs totally like how did here in St davids

Very much preaching to the converted there. I just meant though that it’s harder (even if there is political
Will) to adapt to massively changing demands. But yep. The contracts are dreadful

Britain is a weak country in my opinion. We are out of Europe but controlled by Europe. The echr is part of the issue .France is skint we are almost skint .something has to change .legal migration thats controlled on a points system absolutely yes .illegal migration is illegal ill leave it at that i need say no more as it's illegal full stop .

I have no issue with people looking to make a better life for themselves, if that’s in this country or another. If they’re willing to work hard to achieve their dreams even if it’s litter picking because nobody else wants to do it, then in my eyes they are welcome.

Those looking to sponge shouldn’t be allowed. That also goes for British people, can’t find a job, go pick up rubbish or sweep pavements until you can. My ex is English and never worked a day in her life (39), my wife is Polish and she worked from the day she stepped foot in the uk, and at times had 3 jobs at once.

These being put up in hotels is beyond a joke now though