IS DALMAN CONTROLLING TAN?

Bear with me guys, it might take a while to explain what I mean.

Tan nearly sold the club 18 months ago. We have heard plenty of talk that he wants to sell which you can’t blame him for as his net worth is half of what it was before he bought Cardiff City.

I’ve spoken to a few mates above this and this is our theory. Dalman talked Tan out of selling the club at the last moment, and here’s why we think that.

It was Tan who approached the backers, not the other way around. He wants out but his chairman and trusted advisor tried to get a consortium together himself but was then given the job of dealing with the interested groups. Now that is a conflict of interest.

So Tan has been advised to not sell and not to spend any money because we have a new manager who is highly experienced coaching youngsters and apparently ours are capable of getting us promoted. The likelihood is we don’t get promoted. The asking price drops and who’s there ready to swoop in…….Dalman…….

Don’t forget, Dalman earns over £4m a year via Cardiff City through interest and wages and that doesn’t include what he puts down as expenses.

So ask yourself again….Is Dalman controlling Tan without Tan realising.

Nope.

Interesting theory though.

Nope.

Interesting theory though.

Why nope?

Nope.

Interesting theory though.

Why nope?

Mike, ignore him. He knows less than he thinks but you have to admire his confidence; particularly with so little to back himself up!

To answer your (valid) question, it has been mooted that it was Dalman who persuaded Tan not to sell ‘at this point’, but the reality is no one has confirmed either way

It will all come out in the end, but it’s not like Mehmet has nothing to gain from Tan staying on @ 9% interest on c.£40m, is it?

Nope.

Interesting theory though.

Why nope?

Mike, ignore him. He knows less than he thinks but you have to admire his confidence; particularly with so little to back himself up!

To answer your (valid) question, it has been mooted that it was Dalman who persuaded Tan not to sell ‘at this point’, but the reality is no one has confirmed either way

It will all come out in the end, but it’s not like Mehmet has nothing to gain from Tan staying on @ 9% interest on c.£40m, is it?

Lol. You are funny. Sven.
I know about as much as you for fact which is sweet F.A.

@mike it was just opinion mate going off what respected posters on here say about tan, he is the dictator, he makes all the decisions (very badly) he notoriously difficult to deal with. My opinion just sways that way, doesn’t me I’m right though and I’m fully aware of that. I don’t know what Sven getting his knickers in a twist over with me.

Nope.

Interesting theory though.

Why nope?

Mike, ignore him. He knows less than he thinks but you have to admire his confidence; particularly with so little to back himself up!

To answer your (valid) question, it has been mooted that it was Dalman who persuaded Tan not to sell ‘at this point’, but the reality is no one has confirmed either way

It will all come out in the end, but it’s not like Mehmet has nothing to gain from Tan staying on @ 9% interest on c.£40m, is it?

Lol. You are funny. Sven.
I know about as much as you for fact which is sweet F.A.

@mike it was just opinion mate going off what respected posters on here say about tan, he is the dictator, he makes all the decisions (very badly) he notoriously difficult to deal with. My opinion just sways that way, doesn’t me I’m right though and I’m fully aware of that. I don’t know what Sven getting his knickers in a twist over with me.

I knows it, butt!

There you go again! Making assumptions!

My ‘knickers’ are certainly not in ‘a twist’, I simply passed on information that had been mooted but not confirmed, whilst you made a bold (quote) ‘nope’ statement!’

I’m sure Mike will form his own opinion, as he always does!

Nope.

Interesting theory though.

Why nope?

Mike, ignore him. He knows less than he thinks but you have to admire his confidence; particularly with so little to back himself up!

To answer your (valid) question, it has been mooted that it was Dalman who persuaded Tan not to sell ‘at this point’, but the reality is no one has confirmed either way

It will all come out in the end, but it’s not like Mehmet has nothing to gain from Tan staying on @ 9% interest on c.£40m, is it?

Lol. You are funny. Sven.
I know about as much as you for fact which is sweet F.A.

@mike it was just opinion mate going off what respected posters on here say about tan, he is the dictator, he makes all the decisions (very badly) he notoriously difficult to deal with. My opinion just sways that way, doesn’t me I’m right though and I’m fully aware of that. I don’t know what Sven getting his knickers in a twist over with me.

I knows it, butt!

There you go again! Making assumptions!

My ‘knickers’ are certainly not in ‘a twist’, I simply passed on information that had been mooted but not confirmed, whilst you made a bold (quote) ‘nope’ statement!’

I’m sure Mike will form his own opinion, as he always does!

Sven I wasn’t on about that, I meant about you nasty little dig at me for no reason. Do get it, what do you achieve from it?
I lost I’ve done absolutely nothing to you in my life as far as I’m aware. I don’t call people names here I don’t come out with ITK claims once, I merely offer my opinion which is what a forum about isn’t?
I mean if you really find me to rough and ragged for you just ignore me.
Would love you to point out something I’ve done pro-actively that makes you think I’ll of me.

Yes Dalman has persuaded Tan to stay on

Dalman gets his £650,000 a yr wage

£3.8mill interest

And all his expenses paid

He failed with his pathetic Consortium to get the money together

Yes Dalman has persuaded Tan to stay on

Dalman gets his £650,000 a yr wage

£3.8mill interest

And all his expenses paid

He failed with his pathetic Consortium to get the money together

Thanks, Annis. As was mooted previously!

Nope.

Interesting theory though.

Why nope?

Mike, ignore him. He knows less than he thinks but you have to admire his confidence; particularly with so little to back himself up!

To answer your (valid) question, it has been mooted that it was Dalman who persuaded Tan not to sell ‘at this point’, but the reality is no one has confirmed either way

It will all come out in the end, but it’s not like Mehmet has nothing to gain from Tan staying on @ 9% interest on c.£40m, is it?

He certainly is an interesting poster but I agree, his "nope" comment was a bit abrupt. If he had cast iron evidence to prove me wrong then fair enough but he obviously doesn't.

Nope.

Interesting theory though.

Why nope?

Mike, ignore him. He knows less than he thinks but you have to admire his confidence; particularly with so little to back himself up!

To answer your (valid) question, it has been mooted that it was Dalman who persuaded Tan not to sell ‘at this point’, but the reality is no one has confirmed either way

It will all come out in the end, but it’s not like Mehmet has nothing to gain from Tan staying on @ 9% interest on c.£40m, is it?

Lol. You are funny. Sven.
I know about as much as you for fact which is sweet F.A.

@mike it was just opinion mate going off what respected posters on here say about tan, he is the dictator, he makes all the decisions (very badly) he notoriously difficult to deal with. My opinion just sways that way, doesn’t me I’m right though and I’m fully aware of that. I don’t know what Sven getting his knickers in a twist over with me.

History suggests even dictators get overthrown and stabbed in the back. Just keep an open mind.

What I'm sayiing and have heard is not as bizarre as you and others may think.

I appreciate Dalmans loan carries the quoted interest rate. But has he coughed up that money from his own resources? Therefore getting the £3.8m as clear profit? Or has he borrowed it and also paying interest on it? And possibly only making a smaller profit?
Anyone know?

Makes you wonder. If all the numbers are correct it seems Dalman is doing quite well out of the City. Maybe we have a Chairman whose only ambition is to line his own pockets!

Yes Dalman has persuaded Tan to stay on

Dalman gets his £650,000 a yr wage

£3.8mill interest

And all his expenses paid

He failed with his pathetic Consortium to get the money together

Is this the same group who wanted to buy Charlton with Dalman ???

Tan probably wanted out as he doesn’t want to invest anymore. The sly snake Dalman probably said, we have the best youth players in the country, let’s sell when we get back up as we will make loads of money.

Tan probably wanted out as he doesn’t want to invest anymore. The sly snake Dalman probably said, we have the best youth players in the country, let’s sell when we get back up as we will make loads of money.

Tan nearly let go, but not for the first time, backed out late into a process

He did the same a year or so ago, although I don’t know the identity of the first group

When the rumours of the 3 bids were doing the rounds in full on here, I did put a post up asking if Dalman could scupper a deal if his own consortium was out of the running.

It’s well documented on here I don’t trust the guy and never will, i got tired of warning people not to believe a word the man says as he is polotician/spin doctor.

It really would not surprise one bit if the OP is correct or at the very least close to the truth.

When the rumours of the 3 bids were doing the rounds in full on here, I did put a post up asking if Dalman could scupper a deal if his own consortium was out of the running.

It’s well documented on here I don’t trust the guy and never will, i got tired of warning people not to believe a word the man says as he is polotician/spin doctor.

It really would not surprise one bit if the OP is correct or at the very least close to the truth.

Well all I will say to that is there was a deluge of mocking this forum when Dalman spoke. Those mocking I asked them if they believe in Dalman. Some said they would rather believe in Dalman than this forum. As we say the truth will eventually come out.

Bear with me guys, it might take a while to explain what I mean.

Tan nearly sold the club 18 months ago. We have heard plenty of talk that he wants to sell which you can’t blame him for as his net worth is half of what it was before he bought Cardiff City.

I’ve spoken to a few mates above this and this is our theory. Dalman talked Tan out of selling the club at the last moment, and here’s why we think that.

It was Tan who approached the backers, not the other way around. He wants out but his chairman and trusted advisor tried to get a consortium together himself but was then given the job of dealing with the interested groups. Now that is a conflict of interest.

So Tan has been advised to not sell and not to spend any money because we have a new manager who is highly experienced coaching youngsters and apparently ours are capable of getting us promoted. The likelihood is we don’t get promoted. The asking price drops and who’s there ready to swoop in…….Dalman…….

Don’t forget, Dalman earns over £4m a year via Cardiff City through interest and wages and that doesn’t include what he puts down as expenses.

So ask yourself again….Is Dalman controlling Tan without Tan realising.

I think your right in some ways dalmans gravy train will stop , here's a rumour i heard Dalman borrowed the money off tans son .

Bear with me guys, it might take a while to explain what I mean.

Tan nearly sold the club 18 months ago. We have heard plenty of talk that he wants to sell which you can’t blame him for as his net worth is half of what it was before he bought Cardiff City.

I’ve spoken to a few mates above this and this is our theory. Dalman talked Tan out of selling the club at the last moment, and here’s why we think that.

It was Tan who approached the backers, not the other way around. He wants out but his chairman and trusted advisor tried to get a consortium together himself but was then given the job of dealing with the interested groups. Now that is a conflict of interest.

So Tan has been advised to not sell and not to spend any money because we have a new manager who is highly experienced coaching youngsters and apparently ours are capable of getting us promoted. The likelihood is we don’t get promoted. The asking price drops and who’s there ready to swoop in…….Dalman…….

Don’t forget, Dalman earns over £4m a year via Cardiff City through interest and wages and that doesn’t include what he puts down as expenses.

So ask yourself again….Is Dalman controlling Tan without Tan realising.

I think your right in some ways dalmans gravy train will stop , here's a rumour i heard Dalman borrowed the money off tans son .

That's interesting Wez.

I'm certainly not disbelieving you but why wouldn't Tan just go straight to his son for the investment.

When the rumours of the 3 bids were doing the rounds in full on here, I did put a post up asking if Dalman could scupper a deal if his own consortium was out of the running.

It’s well documented on here I don’t trust the guy and never will, i got tired of warning people not to believe a word the man says as he is polotician/spin doctor.

It really would not surprise one bit if the OP is correct or at the very least close to the truth.

Well all I will say to that is there was a deluge of mocking this forum when Dalman spoke. Those mocking I asked them if they believe in Dalman. Some said they would rather believe in Dalman than this forum. As we say the truth will eventually come out.

That is shocking but not a surprise. There are way too many fans who want to bury their head in the sand for an easy life and hope the club is run properly without them having to get involved in any way.

When the rumours of the 3 bids were doing the rounds in full on here, I did put a post up asking if Dalman could scupper a deal if his own consortium was out of the running.

It’s well documented on here I don’t trust the guy and never will, i got tired of warning people not to believe a word the man says as he is polotician/spin doctor.

It really would not surprise one bit if the OP is correct or at the very least close to the truth.

Sorry mate I missed your post but I believe you were right. Dalman is a businessman and a will do what it takes to sustain and improve his business.

I 100% believe what I put in the OP is correct.

Tan probably wanted out as he doesn’t want to invest anymore. The sly snake Dalman probably said, we have the best youth players in the country, let’s sell when we get back up as we will make loads of money.

Tan nearly let go, but not for the first time, backed out late into a process

He did the same a year or so ago, although I don’t know the identity of the first group

Correct Chris. My worry is those that are interested in buying us will be put off by Tan changing his mind twice and pulling out. Who's to say he won't do it again, then no one will want to buy us.

Bear with me guys, it might take a while to explain what I mean.

Tan nearly sold the club 18 months ago. We have heard plenty of talk that he wants to sell which you can’t blame him for as his net worth is half of what it was before he bought Cardiff City.

I’ve spoken to a few mates above this and this is our theory. Dalman talked Tan out of selling the club at the last moment, and here’s why we think that.

It was Tan who approached the backers, not the other way around. He wants out but his chairman and trusted advisor tried to get a consortium together himself but was then given the job of dealing with the interested groups. Now that is a conflict of interest.

So Tan has been advised to not sell and not to spend any money because we have a new manager who is highly experienced coaching youngsters and apparently ours are capable of getting us promoted. The likelihood is we don’t get promoted. The asking price drops and who’s there ready to swoop in…….Dalman…….

Don’t forget, Dalman earns over £4m a year via Cardiff City through interest and wages and that doesn’t include what he puts down as expenses.

So ask yourself again….Is Dalman controlling Tan without Tan realising.

I think your right in some ways dalmans gravy train will stop , here's a rumour i heard Dalman borrowed the money off tans son .

That's interesting Wez.

I'm certainly not disbelieving you but why wouldn't Tan just go straight to his son for the investment.

I think that it's a way of dalman to get money without a wage , dalmans hasn't had a wage since 2018 around the time of the 2nd lot of his so called investment went in.

Bear with me guys, it might take a while to explain what I mean.

Tan nearly sold the club 18 months ago. We have heard plenty of talk that he wants to sell which you can’t blame him for as his net worth is half of what it was before he bought Cardiff City.

I’ve spoken to a few mates above this and this is our theory. Dalman talked Tan out of selling the club at the last moment, and here’s why we think that.

It was Tan who approached the backers, not the other way around. He wants out but his chairman and trusted advisor tried to get a consortium together himself but was then given the job of dealing with the interested groups. Now that is a conflict of interest.

So Tan has been advised to not sell and not to spend any money because we have a new manager who is highly experienced coaching youngsters and apparently ours are capable of getting us promoted. The likelihood is we don’t get promoted. The asking price drops and who’s there ready to swoop in…….Dalman…….

Don’t forget, Dalman earns over £4m a year via Cardiff City through interest and wages and that doesn’t include what he puts down as expenses.

So ask yourself again….Is Dalman controlling Tan without Tan realising.

I think your right in some ways dalmans gravy train will stop , here's a rumour i heard Dalman borrowed the money off tans son .

That's interesting Wez.

I'm certainly not disbelieving you but why wouldn't Tan just go straight to his son for the investment.

I think that it's a way of dalman to get money without a wage , dalmans hasn't had a wage since 2018 around the time of the 2nd lot of his so called investment went in.

Dalman is on a £650k wage, there's no way he would continue as MD if he wasn't getting paid.

Bear with me guys, it might take a while to explain what I mean.

Tan nearly sold the club 18 months ago. We have heard plenty of talk that he wants to sell which you can’t blame him for as his net worth is half of what it was before he bought Cardiff City.

I’ve spoken to a few mates above this and this is our theory. Dalman talked Tan out of selling the club at the last moment, and here’s why we think that.

It was Tan who approached the backers, not the other way around. He wants out but his chairman and trusted advisor tried to get a consortium together himself but was then given the job of dealing with the interested groups. Now that is a conflict of interest.

So Tan has been advised to not sell and not to spend any money because we have a new manager who is highly experienced coaching youngsters and apparently ours are capable of getting us promoted. The likelihood is we don’t get promoted. The asking price drops and who’s there ready to swoop in…….Dalman…….

Don’t forget, Dalman earns over £4m a year via Cardiff City through interest and wages and that doesn’t include what he puts down as expenses.

So ask yourself again….Is Dalman controlling Tan without Tan realising.

I think your right in some ways dalmans gravy train will stop , here's a rumour i heard Dalman borrowed the money off tans son .

That's interesting Wez.

I'm certainly not disbelieving you but why wouldn't Tan just go straight to his son for the investment.

I think that it's a way of dalman to get money without a wage , dalmans hasn't had a wage since 2018 around the time of the 2nd lot of his so called investment went in.

Dalman is on a £650k wage, there's no way he would continue as MD if he wasn't getting paid.

He's not paid by Cardiff city but his company does get the intrest payment.