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What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 9:42 am

Dalman must of made him believe he can get promoted with no money spent?
I believe that Tan is fxxked. He is , understandably , unable or unwilling to spend on CCFC the money needed.
Are we stuck with this failure ?
Tan we can deduce from our latest accounts (May 2024) has effectively blown at least £275 million on CCFC .
Dalman in these accounts is doing very well with his interest,wages and expenses out of City.
Consequently Tan does not or can not possibly spend any more , real money on us .

He is a very wealthy man (worth £550 million) compared to normal people,he is no billionaire and is way way down the line when it comes to football club owners .

Tan is very keen to sell for the last 5 years, understandably - can/will only sell if he can recoup a good % of his losses .

So Tan’s plan is to keep our losses to a minimum (by lowering wages and the number of players) . He will only buy players if we can sell first. BBM is caught in the middle, no money available to him.

So Tan will keep the losses to a minimum , whereby he can hold on until such time where we get lucky aI am almost certain that we got good offers,but Tan can not sell at that fair price,because his losses will be too big and Dalman has said stay on and we can get more once promoted.

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 9:50 am

Feels like to me tans taking a massive gamble on us getting promoted?what happens if we don’t go up?

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:09 am

Isn't this just a repeat of what's been said on here many times in recent weeks?

It's true and not good that he's decided to stay for now, but no new information here.

What has changed since, say a year ago, is I think more fans than ever have wanted Tan to go. Some have tried to defend him over the years but there's now less and less people.

If he does stay for a while longer then he said he'd be at the stadium for a game. If he really did do that then the response he'd get from the fans would not be a good one - so that's just one more thing he's said he'll do, which he won't.

I did think this summer was the best time for him to go. He had the good offer he wanted and for his sake as well as our's, should have took it.

But now we know he was advised otherwise.

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:13 am

He can't be that good of running a business, I would of forecast this next stage of Cardiff, YES I agree with the clear out, but he needs to invest NOW, all the good players have been watched, spoken to and gone to there clubs, where's Cardiff still scrabbling in the crap, looks like they are relying on our youth set up, which isn't good enough for a jump straight in, we need leaders.

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:21 am

Tan wants £100m to walk away. The best he has been offered is £50m where he gives up his ownership of the club. That being he will be left with 49% or less in shares.

He wants to walk away or its a no sell. He has chosen a no sell so therefore has gone for no investment low operating cost ownership. Yes he is hoping to get a better price if we go up and that is it.

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:25 am

Worcester - is the proposed takeover now completely dead and buried? I don’t know the answer but perhaps you might.

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:35 am

Brezza wrote:Worcester - is the proposed takeover now completely dead and buried? I don’t know the answer but perhaps you might.


I don't know but I don't believe anything is ever dead and buried when it comes to things like that, there is always room to make things work.

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:37 am

Bakedalasker wrote:Tan wants £100m to walk away. The best he has been offered is £50m where he gives up his ownership of the club. That being he will be left with 49% or less in shares.

He wants to walk away or its a no sell. He has chosen a no sell so therefore has gone for no investment low operating cost ownership. Yes he is hoping to get a better price if we go up and that is it.


How do you know that he wants £100mil?
Wasn’t all his requirements met in one of the bids and he still didn’t leave.
It’s confusing both can’t be true can they?

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:40 am

Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Tan wants £100m to walk away. The best he has been offered is £50m where he gives up his ownership of the club. That being he will be left with 49% or less in shares.

He wants to walk away or its a no sell. He has chosen a no sell so therefore has gone for no investment low operating cost ownership. Yes he is hoping to get a better price if we go up and that is it.


How do you know that he wants £100mil?
Wasn’t all his requirements met in one of the bids and he still didn’t leave.
It’s confusing both can’t be true can they?


At first it was £120m but he came down to £100m then said no sale as no one was interested with his demand.

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Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:41 am

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Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:44 am

worcester_ccfc wrote:
Brezza wrote:Worcester - is the proposed takeover now completely dead and buried? I don’t know the answer but perhaps you might.


I don't know but I don't believe anything is ever dead and buried when it comes to things like that, there is always room to make things work.



Ned it’s Def not dead and buried as you say.

Brezza,
I still believe the South Africans will end up with us once Tan realises he can’t treat business deans in Europe like he dies in Malaysia.

Plus it’s not helping as Dalman seems now happy to get his £3.8 million
Interest and his wage of us.


This time I am saying NO more than that end off.

It’s not dead.

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Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:48 am

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Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:57 am

Don't forget any figure for sale must account for dalmans 40m!
BBC reported it was 80m tan is owed but whatever it is its no insignificant amount for a football club not in premier league? My view as been pay tan basically what he wants now and take the risk of promotion or not because whoever the buyers could be would have to pay more if in championship or so everyone keeps saying! Tan is risking losing more money and taking club to div 2 because simply put no promotion all our good youngsters be gone along with salech ect club worth peanuts compared to now as we will only have no value players and possibility of relegation... dalman is laughing his arse off as he obviously happy to get 2m+ a year interest for doing sfa.. no its tan that's losing out ... why not pay him £100m? +dalman now it's a risk but isn't that what investers do "Risk investing "

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:17 am

Back in the 80s and 90s these clowns would be run out of town. Shame and stain on current majority of fanbase that perhaps have got no fight in um to do the same.



F... the merchamsise, f.... away support and total boycott of everything CCFC until he goes.

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:33 am

Perhaps the derision of fans should be aimed at Dalman too, if he's doing well under Vinny. Obviously it's not in his interests if he's making a nice little earner while Vinny is running the show.

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Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:39 am

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Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:22 pm

We’re not going to be sold in the next 12 months

We have not signed anyone (we already have three keepers good enough for this division), BBM saying the same as every other manager… I have the full backing to sign players from Ken, Memhet and Vincent… heard that before and how supportive they are.

At the end of the window we get told we tried and tried but couldn’t sign anyone, we were very close but….

Then 12 games in we sack the manager and start again.

They think we’re mugs!

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:32 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Tan wants £100m to walk away. The best he has been offered is £50m where he gives up his ownership of the club. That being he will be left with 49% or less in shares.

He wants to walk away or its a no sell. He has chosen a no sell so therefore has gone for no investment low operating cost ownership. Yes he is hoping to get a better price if we go up and that is it.


How do you know that he wants £100mil?
Wasn’t all his requirements met in one of the bids and he still didn’t leave.
It’s confusing both can’t be true can they?


At first it was £120m but he came down to £100m then said no sale as no one was interested with his demand.


Cheers mate.

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:42 pm

Some interesting clips of tonight's cardiff city World interview with omar riza going around where he admits to many people at the club are more interested in looking after there own interests than doing what's right for the club,

Should be an interesting watch

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:50 pm

Llandaff Blues wrote:Back in the 80s and 90s these clowns would be run out of town. Shame and stain on current majority of fanbase that perhaps have got no fight in um to do the same.



F... the merchamsise, f.... away support and total boycott of everything CCFC until he goes.

If only they were ever ‘in town’! :(

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:53 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Isn't this just a repeat of what's been said on here many times in recent weeks?

It's true and not good that he's decided to stay for now, but no new information here.

What has changed since, say a year ago, is I think more fans than ever have wanted Tan to go. Some have tried to defend him over the years but there's now less and less people.

If he does stay for a while longer then he said he'd be at the stadium for a game. If he really did do that then the response he'd get from the fans would not be a good one - so that's just one more thing he's said he'll do, which he won't.

I did think this summer was the best time for him to go. He had the good offer he wanted and for his sake as well as our's, should have took it.

But now we know he was advised otherwise.

Spot on, Ned. Nothing new from the OP here! :(

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 2:10 pm

Blue since 1981 wrote:Some interesting clips of tonight's cardiff city World interview with omar riza going around where he admits to many people at the club are more interested in looking after there own interests than doing what's right for the club,

Should be an interesting watch



I watched that very interesting Hmmmmmm

It all comes out in the end :bluebird: :bluebird:

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 2:11 pm

Llandaff Blues wrote:Back in the 80s and 90s these clowns would be run out of town. Shame and stain on current majority of fanbase that perhaps have got no fight in um to do the same.



F... the merchamsise, f.... away support and total boycott of everything CCFC until he goes.



100%

We are so soft now and not enough care like they use to.

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 2:12 pm

Sven wrote:
Llandaff Blues wrote:Back in the 80s and 90s these clowns would be run out of town. Shame and stain on current majority of fanbase that perhaps have got no fight in um to do the same.



F... the merchamsise, f.... away support and total boycott of everything CCFC until he goes.

If only they were ever ‘in town’! :(



Perfect answer and so true Chris.

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Sun Aug 10, 2025 2:12 pm

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Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 2:17 pm

The simple answer to the OPs question is because he can do what he wants to, it's his club & if he doesn't want to sell it he won't. While we all want him to sell & think it's the only thing that makes sense we're not him & we don't have 100s of millions to know what goes on in the mind of someone who does.

As for the asset stripping line always being thrown around, it's a ridiculous statement & just used for effect.

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 2:33 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Twitter:

Annis, i totally agree with Lakey that this squad (as it is now) is getting nowhere near promotion. Tan will believe that he only has to put on the TV and watch us cruise to promotion well he's in for a big shock. Let's just hope that the potential investers hang about long enough to get the club.

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 3:11 pm

What we do know the bidders are quiet , we need a rapper,rock star o film star or even a comedian to step forward and push us into the world of football fly on the wall celebrity fame, just like our country cousins up north and too the west ,its a pity Ozzy passed ,imagine the merchandise.

Re: What is the point of Tan staying on?

Sun Aug 10, 2025 3:21 pm

One thing that stood out for me, with the Port Vale match, his how they set about their task.

Now Darren Moore is an experienced manager in the lower divisions and he knew, as far as skill levels are concerned, he could not match what we have. But he had to find a way to beat us, and he certainly wasnt going to stick 10 men behind the ball for 90 minutes. Instead his plan was to "Bully us". Bully us on the pitch. Bully us on corners - and basically get in our faces - and it worked!!

The problem we now have is that every other side in the division will have seen that and they will copy what Port Vale did.

It is for this reason I think we need some hard heads and more experience in the side.