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Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 11:59 am

100% I believe this.

We would have been able to keep them out at all. Would have conceded and conceded more.

As usual a complete over reaction to one game after a decent performance (which we also wouldn’t have come back from last season).

Can we give them a few games before we completely discount them?

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 12:07 pm

In reality we scraped past Peterborough who are amongst the teams who will be battling down the bottom and we drew to a team that came up from League Two.

It’s not great.

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 12:12 pm

M4 Exile wrote:In reality we scraped past Peterborough who are amongst the teams who will be battling down the bottom and we drew to a team that came up from League Two.

It’s not great.


I’d be shocked if Peterborough were down the bottom. Their history in this league doesn’t indicate they will.

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 12:29 pm

M4 Exile wrote:In reality we scraped past Peterborough who are amongst the teams who will be battling down the bottom and we drew to a team that came up from League Two.

It’s not great.


Scraped past Peterborough? That's not how the game went.

But people are using Thursday to try and re-write the Peterborough game too.

It's all great.

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 12:31 pm

maccydee wrote:100% I believe this.

We would have been able to keep them out at all. Would have conceded and conceded more.

As usual a complete over reaction to one game after a decent performance (which we also wouldn’t have come back from last season).

Can we give them a few games before we completely discount them?


Disagree on the over reaction, we where unrecognisable to peterborough game over run for 96 Minutes, you had to be there as I was on the terraces it was an awful display, 1 shot on goal from us murphy got it wrong no press sat off them set up defensive,
chambers wrong choice as a centre back slowed it down passing back to the keeper and across the back constantly and the tactics never changed in the 2nd half from murphy.

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 12:36 pm

montyblue wrote:
maccydee wrote:100% I believe this.

We would have been able to keep them out at all. Would have conceded and conceded more.

As usual a complete over reaction to one game after a decent performance (which we also wouldn’t have come back from last season).

Can we give them a few games before we completely discount them?


Disagree on the over reaction, we where unrecognisable to peterborough game over run for 96 Minutes, you had to be there as I was on the terraces it was an awful display, 1 shot on goal from us murphy got it wrong no press sat off them set up defensive,
chambers wrong choice as a centre back slowed it down passing back to the keeper and across the back constantly and the tactics never changed in the 2nd half from murphy.


Quite capable of watching it on the Tv and making a call on the game.

We were bad I’ll agree but they were a lot better than anyone expected

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 12:43 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
M4 Exile wrote:In reality we scraped past Peterborough who are amongst the teams who will be battling down the bottom and we drew to a team that came up from League Two.

It’s not great.


Scraped past Peterborough? That's not how the game went.

But people are using Thursday to try and re-write the Peterborough game too.

It's all great.


We had one good 45 minutes. If anything people are trying to rewrite the Peterborough game as if we wiped the floor with them when we didn’t.

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 1:02 pm

maccydee wrote:100% I believe this.

We would have been able to keep them out at all. Would have conceded and conceded more.

As usual a complete over reaction to one game after a decent performance (which we also wouldn’t have come back from last season).

Can we give them a few games before we completely discount them?


The only reason we didn’t is because the ref is probably a paid up member of the BBM fan club.
An average ref and we lose.

People got wet about Peterborough because Colwill scored and finally had a decent game, but we hang on for the 3 points.

However it is still very early days and hopefully this is as bad as it gets and we go from strength to strength.

Although I think I said this many times over last few years. lol.

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 1:05 pm

maccydee wrote:100% I believe this.

We would have been able to keep them out at all. Would have conceded and conceded more.

As usual a complete over reaction to one game after a decent performance (which we also wouldn’t have come back from last season).

Can we give them a few games before we completely discount them?



A team full of 4th Division players

I can’t believe Neil you are comparing.

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 1:05 pm

We were worse than awful

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 1:06 pm

Forever Blue wrote:We were worse than awful


Agree. So many BBM tinted glasses for the game.

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 1:46 pm

Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:We were worse than awful


Agree. So many BBM tinted glasses for the game.


They are making him some sort of great manager already just like they did with Omer Riza:

I will judge him after 10-12 games

But he knew he had no money before he took the job.

But keeps saying he is bringing in Quality players???

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 1:47 pm

Peterborough were 18th last season and have not strengthened

Port Vale are virtually a squad full of 4th Division players

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 1:54 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:We were worse than awful


Agree. So many BBM tinted glasses for the game.


They are making him some sort of great manager already just like they did with Omer Riza:

I will judge him after 10-12 games

But he knew he had no money before he took the job.

But keeps saying he is bringing in Quality players???


You correct.

Some have him as a messiah and savior before a game kicked off. We have to see but as it stands I’m not convinced anything has changed. But it is early days.

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 2:14 pm

Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:We were worse than awful


Agree. So many BBM tinted glasses for the game.


They are making him some sort of great manager already just like they did with Omer Riza:

I will judge him after 10-12 games

But he knew he had no money before he took the job.

But keeps saying he is bringing in Quality players???


You correct.

Some have him as a messiah and savior before a game kicked off. We have to see but as it stands I’m not convinced anything has changed. But it is early days.

I agree that we can’t call him the messiah after 2 games but (even though there were weaknesses on Thursday that need addressing) neither can we say he’s clueless after 2 games. You’re right to judge after 10-12 games imo.

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 2:52 pm

maccydee wrote:
M4 Exile wrote:In reality we scraped past Peterborough who are amongst the teams who will be battling down the bottom and we drew to a team that came up from League Two.

It’s not great.


I’d be shocked if Peterborough were down the bottom. Their history in this league doesn’t indicate they will.


They are one of the faves to go down. Luton have won there today.

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 7:30 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:We were worse than awful


Agree. So many BBM tinted glasses for the game.


They are making him some sort of great manager already just like they did with Omer Riza:

I will judge him after 10-12 games

But he knew he had no money before he took the job.

But keeps saying he is bringing in Quality players???


You correct.

Some have him as a messiah and savior before a game kicked off. We have to see but as it stands I’m not convinced anything has changed. But it is early days.

I agree that we can’t call him the messiah after 2 games but (even though there were weaknesses on Thursday that need addressing) neither can we say he’s clueless after 2 games. You’re right to judge after 10-12 games imo.


How long did Trollope get?

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 8:20 pm

M4 Exile wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
M4 Exile wrote:In reality we scraped past Peterborough who are amongst the teams who will be battling down the bottom and we drew to a team that came up from League Two.

It’s not great.


Scraped past Peterborough? That's not how the game went.

But people are using Thursday to try and re-write the Peterborough game too.

It's all great.


We had one good 45 minutes. If anything people are trying to rewrite the Peterborough game as if we wiped the floor with them when we didn’t.


We were also the better team 1st half and didn't deserve to be losing

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 8:24 pm

KBK-13 wrote:
M4 Exile wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
M4 Exile wrote:In reality we scraped past Peterborough who are amongst the teams who will be battling down the bottom and we drew to a team that came up from League Two.

It’s not great.


Scraped past Peterborough? That's not how the game went.

But people are using Thursday to try and re-write the Peterborough game too.

It's all great.


We had one good 45 minutes. If anything people are trying to rewrite the Peterborough game as if we wiped the floor with them when we didn’t.


We were also the better team 1st half and didn't deserve to be losing


Correct.

Thursday wasn't a good performance, we all know that.

But the continuing overreaction to it for three days now is a bit mind boggling. Would understand it if there were a few consecutive performances like that with this new manager, but it's one game.

I'm sure we'll get back on track against Rotherham and some who have been jumping all over the Vale game will go back into their shells for a bit.

The manager said "we didn't play well enough but it's no major drama for me at this stage" - I agree with that.

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 8:30 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
KBK-13 wrote:
M4 Exile wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
M4 Exile wrote:In reality we scraped past Peterborough who are amongst the teams who will be battling down the bottom and we drew to a team that came up from League Two.

It’s not great.


Scraped past Peterborough? That's not how the game went.

But people are using Thursday to try and re-write the Peterborough game too.

It's all great.


We had one good 45 minutes. If anything people are trying to rewrite the Peterborough game as if we wiped the floor with them when we didn’t.


We were also the better team 1st half and didn't deserve to be losing


Correct.

Thursday wasn't a good performance, we all know that.

But the continuing overreaction to it for three days now is a bit mind boggling. Would understand it if there were a few consecutive performances like that with this new manager, but it's one game.

I'm sure we'll get back on track against Rotherham and some who have been jumping all over the Vale game will go back into their shells for a bit.

The manager said "we didn't play well enough but it's no major drama for me at this stage" - I agree with that.


Play like we did Saturday for the majority of the season and we will do well. Play like we did Thursday for the majority of the season and we won't do well.

I still predict a Play off finish.

Hopefully any more signings will be experienced players with leadership qualities over more young potential players

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 8:43 pm

Did I just read we scrapped past Peterborough!?
We absolutely controlled that game.

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 9:21 pm

This year we should have lost that Port Vale game.

They had a perfectly good goal ruled out incorrectly for offside.

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 9:36 pm

davids wrote:This year we should have lost that Port Vale game.

They had a perfectly good goal ruled out incorrectly for offside.


They did the VAR lines and was offside

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 9:59 pm

davids wrote:This year we should have lost that Port Vale game.

They had a perfectly good goal ruled out incorrectly for offside.


True, I thought at the time it should have stood. I know some have said it was offside when you look at it closer but the feeling at the time was it should have stood - but it didn't. Likewise, Bagan could have been sent off (some refs would have for that challenge) - but he wasn't.

That's missing the point though.

The point is that the players put their bodies on the line to preserve a point, during what was otherwise a bad performance - that's different to last season, I agree with the OP on that.

That's how I read the post anyway.

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sat Aug 09, 2025 10:31 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
davids wrote:This year we should have lost that Port Vale game.

They had a perfectly good goal ruled out incorrectly for offside.


True, I thought at the time it should have stood. I know some have said it was offside when you look at it closer but the feeling at the time was it should have stood - but it didn't. Likewise, Bagan could have been sent off (some refs would have for that challenge) - but he wasn't.

That's missing the point though.

The point is that the players put their bodies on the line to preserve a point, during what was otherwise a bad performance - that's different to last season, I agree with the OP on that.

That's how I read the post anyway.


Exactly what I meant.

There were a number of blocks at the end to keep that point which showed me the players care.

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sun Aug 10, 2025 2:15 pm

maccydee wrote:
davids wrote:This year we should have lost that Port Vale game.

They had a perfectly good goal ruled out incorrectly for offside.


They did the VAR lines and was offside


I said that the angle for TV was not same as lino inline with play and how many times in premier league do you see a onside call be offside and visa versa with var?
Lino got it right so wasn't a goal

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sun Aug 10, 2025 2:20 pm

maccydee wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
davids wrote:This year we should have lost that Port Vale game.

They had a perfectly good goal ruled out incorrectly for offside.


True, I thought at the time it should have stood. I know some have said it was offside when you look at it closer but the feeling at the time was it should have stood - but it didn't. Likewise, Bagan could have been sent off (some refs would have for that challenge) - but he wasn't.

That's missing the point though.

The point is that the players put their bodies on the line to preserve a point, during what was otherwise a bad performance - that's different to last season, I agree with the OP on that.

That's how I read the post anyway.


Exactly what I meant.

There were a number of blocks at the end to keep that point which showed me the players care.



Apparently we couldn't handle the pressure? Thought we didn't concede despite their pressure? We did have more possession! Also I believe if we had put our crossing boots on we would have scored at least one that's what let us down...

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sun Aug 10, 2025 3:25 pm

maccydee wrote:
davids wrote:This year we should have lost that Port Vale game.

They had a perfectly good goal ruled out incorrectly for offside.


They did the VAR lines and was offside


Where did you see it with the VAR lines?

Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sun Aug 10, 2025 3:43 pm

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Re: Last year we would have lost that Port Vale game

Sun Aug 10, 2025 3:50 pm

maccydee wrote:Here



Lino directly in line with play camera is not.... like the lines looks like my grandsons work of art! "He's 3" :lol: