Now the dust has settled on last night

Last night was a poor performance, let's make no mistake about that. We were fortunate to come away with a point.

But we also have to remember that Saturday was a good performance. Peterborough fans said they thought we looked good, and they know this league better than us.

Everything we did right on Saturday, we did wrong last night.

So we've had two performances - one good, one bad. Four points from the first two games is not a terrible start.

Certainly no reason to write ourselves off because I do still believe we'll have a good season.

Last night has come early in the season which is a good thing because it shows the manager some big areas that need to be improved in training, or possibly with additions to the squad.

For all the worries about defence, that's not my biggest concern. Whether by luck or whatever else, we haven't conceded a goal from open play in the first two games.

My big worry remains the lack of good crosses going in for Salech. He had one on Saturday from Tanner but last night all the crosses were poor. So a new winger would be my priority.


I'm not moving from my belief we will end the season in the top six, I still believe that and I still believe the manager is the right person for us.

But we do need to see a reaction against Rotherham.

I would also hope that he puts a team out against Swindon that can win the game, because we need a bit of momentum back.

Got bullied out of their game to easily...too slow with the passing and gave away cheap possession... they'll learn

Agree with most of that the wingers were awful last night.

Really disappointed with the team performance I don't think anyone played well.

Lawlor has not impressed me in the first two games. Willock is a waste of time hopefully he gets sold and replaced.

We have one of the best strikers in the league and we are not giving him any sort of service at the moment.

i really didnt expect a BBM team to turn up like that last night i am still stunned.
he really didnt address the issues at half time either.
i think he was a great choice just really surprised

Agree with most of that the wingers were awful last night.

Really disappointed with the team performance I don't think anyone played well.

Lawlor has not impressed me in the first two games. Willock is a waste of time hopefully he gets sold and replaced.

We have one of the best strikers in the league and we are not giving him any sort of service at the moment.

we all seem to be looking at willock Tanner was much much worse

Agree with most of that the wingers were awful last night.

Really disappointed with the team performance I don't think anyone played well.

Lawlor has not impressed me in the first two games. Willock is a waste of time hopefully he gets sold and replaced.

We have one of the best strikers in the league and we are not giving him any sort of service at the moment.

we all seem to be looking at willock Tanner was much much worse

I agree the difference is Willock is consistently bad where as Tanner has the odd good game here and there. Neither are good enough imo.

And we have just given him a new 4 year contract unbelieveable again

Let's also hope bbm.learns not just the players to easy to blame players also the tactics he could of changed it half time he didn't learning curve for bbm also

I think we've had one good half in the two games played so far.

We were really good in the second half on Saturday but not great in the first half.

Some strange decisions by the manager so far for me also.

Not a fan of changing a winning team so although I thought Trott did well last night I wouldn't have dropped Turner after his display on Saturday.

Chambers clearly cannot play centre half. How long will it take BBM to realise that?

What on earth has Willock done to earn a place in the starting line up and then why on earth leave him on the pitch for almost the whole match?

What is the point in bringing on Isaak Davies in added time at the end of the game? There was hardly time for him to have a touch before the final whistle went.

Id we had Goutas and Metie playing for us we would have not been bullied that much.

And we have just given him a new 4 year contract unbelieveable again

Etete part 2.

I love the optimism and belief. For me we have played two of the weaker teams in the Division and struggled. With this squad we will be lucky to finish above 12th.
We desperately need some quality which as Annis keeps reminding us BBM has promised. Hopefully, sooner rather than later.

The thing that dissapointed me most last night is we abandoned the high press that has been so successful since bbm took over

I'd like a journo to ask him the reasoning behind it and I'm hoping it was a one off and we will go back to the high press aggressive tactic starting with the Swindon game tuesday

It was a decent result Cardiff of old would have lost.

They wanted it more.

Our lads tried to play football, they were running around like wild banshees

They had lots of forward movement but poor accuracy.

Our keeper didn't have much to do considering the attempts they had

They had one shot on target .

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Well I would not say the dust has settled, far from it.

All my fears/apprehensions are back floating around in my head after that performanace. That was on a par to the end of last season when these players gave up. If we continue to perform like that our season will be over before its starts.

Well I would not say the dust has settled, far from it.

All my fears/apprehensions are back floating around in my head after that performanace. That was on a par to the end of last season when these players gave up. If we continue to perform like that our season will be over before its starts.

Chill, it's one game. If it's followed up with similar in the coming weeks then we can worry.

But I haven't forgotten that the vast majority of fans were happy with the Peterborough game. We've had one decent game and one bad game.

I still believe we'll have a decent season and although yesterday was bad, it possibly comes at the right time because it can be fixed with this manager.

So like BBM said after the game, it was a bad performance but no major drama at this point.

Well I would not say the dust has settled, far from it.

All my fears/apprehensions are back floating around in my head after that performanace. That was on a par to the end of last season when these players gave up. If we continue to perform like that our season will be over before its starts.

You appear to be traumatised by last season and fear the nightmare is not yet over. Remember these players did NOT give up last night but fought for a hard-earned point. That on the back of an excellent win over Peterborough. With all the youngsters in the team it is never going to be plain sailing but it will be a damn sight better than last season.

Well I would not say the dust has settled, far from it.

All my fears/apprehensions are back floating around in my head after that performanace. That was on a par to the end of last season when these players gave up. If we continue to perform like that our season will be over before its starts.

Chill, it's one game. If it's followed up with similar in the coming weeks then we can worry.

But I haven't forgotten that the vast majority of fans were happy with the Peterborough game. We've had one decent game and one bad game.

I still believe we'll have a decent season and although yesterday was bad, it possibly comes at the right time because it can be fixed with this manager.

So like BBM said after the game, it was a bad performance but no major drama at this point.

There in lies the crux you say 1 good game 1 bad but thats why if your not consistent your top 6 is a pipe dream.

Well I would not say the dust has settled, far from it.

All my fears/apprehensions are back floating around in my head after that performanace. That was on a par to the end of last season when these players gave up. If we continue to perform like that our season will be over before its starts.

You appear to be traumatised by last season and fear the nightmare is not yet over. Remember these players did NOT give up last night but fought for a hard-earned point. That on the back of an excellent win over Peterborough. With all the youngsters in the team it is never going to be plain sailing but it will be a damn sight better than last season.

Until I see it then I will continue to think that way.

Well I would not say the dust has settled, far from it.

All my fears/apprehensions are back floating around in my head after that performanace. That was on a par to the end of last season when these players gave up. If we continue to perform like that our season will be over before its starts.

Chill, it's one game. If it's followed up with similar in the coming weeks then we can worry.

But I haven't forgotten that the vast majority of fans were happy with the Peterborough game. We've had one decent game and one bad game.

I still believe we'll have a decent season and although yesterday was bad, it possibly comes at the right time because it can be fixed with this manager.

So like BBM said after the game, it was a bad performance but no major drama at this point.

There in lies the crux you say 1 good game 1 bad but thats why if your not consistent your top 6 is a pipe dream.

You can bring up consistency or lack of after six games, not two.

Far too early for that talk.

Well I would not say the dust has settled, far from it.

All my fears/apprehensions are back floating around in my head after that performanace. That was on a par to the end of last season when these players gave up. If we continue to perform like that our season will be over before its starts.

Chill, it's one game. If it's followed up with similar in the coming weeks then we can worry.

But I haven't forgotten that the vast majority of fans were happy with the Peterborough game. We've had one decent game and one bad game.

I still believe we'll have a decent season and although yesterday was bad, it possibly comes at the right time because it can be fixed with this manager.

So like BBM said after the game, it was a bad performance but no major drama at this point.

There in lies the crux you say 1 good game 1 bad but thats why if your not consistent your top 6 is a pipe dream.

You can bring up consistency or lack of after six games, not two.

Far too early for that talk.

Same squad of players and you can include the end of last season.

Well I would not say the dust has settled, far from it.

All my fears/apprehensions are back floating around in my head after that performanace. That was on a par to the end of last season when these players gave up. If we continue to perform like that our season will be over before its starts.

Chill, it's one game. If it's followed up with similar in the coming weeks then we can worry.

But I haven't forgotten that the vast majority of fans were happy with the Peterborough game. We've had one decent game and one bad game.

I still believe we'll have a decent season and although yesterday was bad, it possibly comes at the right time because it can be fixed with this manager.

So like BBM said after the game, it was a bad performance but no major drama at this point.

There in lies the crux you say 1 good game 1 bad but thats why if your not consistent your top 6 is a pipe dream.

You can bring up consistency or lack of after six games, not two.

Far too early for that talk.

Come on Ned it was not the fact we were unlucky, we where overun from the same team that played Saturday totally unrecognisable that's the inconsistency I am referring too not a winning streak etc

What happened to giving the manager 10/12 games before jumping all over him ? Seems like some are already writing him off, even those who were calling for the youngsters to be given a chance are already calling for experience to be brought in.

Sure last night was awful but we didn't lose & kept going to the end whereas last season they would have just given up or they would have scored a last minute goal from something stupid like a wayward back pass.

Let's just give it a minimum of 10 games before getting the daggers out & calling for the managers head.

What happened to giving the manager 10/12 games before jumping all over him ? Seems like some are already writing him off, even those who were calling for the youngsters to be given a chance are already calling for experience to be brought in.

Sure last night was awful but we didn't lose & kept going to the end whereas last season they would have just given up or they would have scored a last minute goal from something stupid like a wayward back pass.

Let's just give it a minimum of 10 games before getting the daggers out & calling for the managers head.

Not calling for managers head.

What happened to giving the manager 10/12 games before jumping all over him ? Seems like some are already writing him off, even those who were calling for the youngsters to be given a chance are already calling for experience to be brought in.

Sure last night was awful but we didn't lose & kept going to the end whereas last season they would have just given up or they would have scored a last minute goal from something stupid like a wayward back pass.

Let's just give it a minimum of 10 games before getting the daggers out & calling for the managers head.

Not calling for managers head.

I didn't say you were. But if the cap fits.

What happened to giving the manager 10/12 games before jumping all over him ? Seems like some are already writing him off, even those who were calling for the youngsters to be given a chance are already calling for experience to be brought in.

Sure last night was awful but we didn't lose & kept going to the end whereas last season they would have just given up or they would have scored a last minute goal from something stupid like a wayward back pass.

Let's just give it a minimum of 10 games before getting the daggers out & calling for the managers head.

Well said.

I will give him 10 games 8 to go first 4 should of been looking at 4 wins obviously that's not happening he will be given time by myself but I won't stand for excuses after 10 games I will say how I see it I actually like some of the things he's trying to do but he hasn't persuaded me yet he's different from bulet or riza shall we say last night was very similar to them two ex managers we had

I will give him 10 games 8 to go first 4 should of been looking at 4 wins obviously that's not happening he will be given time by myself but I won't stand for excuses after 10 games I will say how I see it I actually like some of the things he's trying to do but he hasn't persuaded me yet he's different from bulet or riza shall we say last night was very similar to them two ex managers we had

And last Saturday was completely different and went well, that shouldn't be forgotten.

What happened to giving the manager 10/12 games before jumping all over him ? Seems like some are already writing him off, even those who were calling for the youngsters to be given a chance are already calling for experience to be brought in.

Sure last night was awful but we didn't lose & kept going to the end whereas last season they would have just given up or they would have scored a last minute goal from something stupid like a wayward back pass.

Let's just give it a minimum of 10 games before getting the daggers out & calling for the managers head.

Not calling for managers head.

I don't see anyone calling for the managers head but some of us are showing concerns including me that what we want to do is going to struggle and at worst fail.

What happened to giving the manager 10/12 games before jumping all over him ? Seems like some are already writing him off, even those who were calling for the youngsters to be given a chance are already calling for experience to be brought in.

Sure last night was awful but we didn't lose & kept going to the end whereas last season they would have just given up or they would have scored a last minute goal from something stupid like a wayward back pass.

Let's just give it a minimum of 10 games before getting the daggers out & calling for the managers head.

Not calling for managers head.

I don't see anyone calling for the managers head but some of us are showing concerns including me that what we want to do is going to struggle and at worst fail.

I didn't say anyone was, I said before anyone does, different. Give it 10 games "before anyone calls for his head". Some are certainly sharpening their daggers & you are admittedly already worried which is obviously your choice.