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Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 9:55 am

So I remain confident that the deal will go ahead....

But the one question I have is what is meant by "Tan will only sell on his terms?"

The reason I am a little confused is because, from my understanding:

a) The sale price of the club has been agreed with Tan
b) The method of payment is agreeable to Tan
c) An agreed solution has been agreed with Dalman regarding his debt.

What do we think the additional terms are?

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:06 am

Paul Keevil wrote:So I remain confident that the deal will go ahead....

But the one question I have is what is meant by "Tan will only sell on his terms?"

The reason I am a little confused is because, from my understanding:

a) The sale price of the club has been agreed with Tan
b) The method of payment is agreeable to Tan
c) An agreed solution has been agreed with Dalman regarding his debt.

What do we think the additional terms are?

Maybe he wants dalmans money sorted too to leave us debt free ? .

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:07 am

I believe your points are from speculation and verbal chatter.
Whether or not they are fact is unclear.

I hope they are fact!
I’ve bought party poppers and fireworks for the :D :bluebird:
Divorce!!!

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:09 am

Paul Keevil wrote:So I remain confident that the deal will go ahead....

But the one question I have is what is meant by "Tan will only sell on his terms?"

The reason I am a little confused is because, from my understanding:

a) The sale price of the club has been agreed with Tan
b) The method of payment is agreeable to Tan
c) An agreed solution has been agreed with Dalman regarding his debt.

What do we think the additional terms are?



Could be anything? Mike Ashley changed things close to completion several times ! Other owners the same it seems football owners can't simply sell they've got to drag it out until it gets to stage of buyer threatening to pull out! But is there any other terms that's required to complete sale unfortunately that's never going to come out so it's hope and prey Tan sighns on dotted line ASAP!

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:24 am

Nobody on this forum knows what these “terms” are

Everything being said by certain individuals is just pure speculation because if we’ve learnt one thing from Tan’s tenure of our club is that nothing is leaked and he keeps everything under wraps

It’s obvious something is going on in the background but nobody and I mean nobody apart from Tan and s few others no what that is!!

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:40 am

If i am selling anything It is on my terms Really would you expect anything else

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:47 am

My business would be my final decesion, there's not many of us would not hold out for best offer.

For all we know the offers are not whats reported .?

The will usually have Non Disclosure Agreements aligned to them

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:53 am

Paul Keevil wrote:So I remain confident that the deal will go ahead....

But the one question I have is what is meant by "Tan will only sell on his terms?"

The reason I am a little confused is because, from my understanding:

a) The sale price of the club has been agreed with Tan
b) The method of payment is agreeable to Tan
c) An agreed solution has been agreed with Dalman regarding his debt.

What do we think the additional terms are?


If they have, then it will go through smoothly; if all the terms are not met, it will drag on.

I would guess it's the second. We may know more on Saturday.

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 11:56 am

Paul Keevil wrote:So I remain confident that the deal will go ahead....

But the one question I have is what is meant by "Tan will only sell on his terms?"

The reason I am a little confused is because, from my understanding:

a) The sale price of the club has been agreed with Tan
b) The method of payment is agreeable to Tan
c) An agreed solution has been agreed with Dalman regarding his debt.

What do we think the additional terms are?


On what basis are you confident the deal will go ahead when everything that has been mooted on here and elsewhere is pure speculation ? Hopefully a deal can be struck but until such time as it's officially confirmed by the club, I am treating all conjecture with a very large pinch of salt.

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 11:57 am

MoodyBluebird wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:So I remain confident that the deal will go ahead....

But the one question I have is what is meant by "Tan will only sell on his terms?"

The reason I am a little confused is because, from my understanding:

a) The sale price of the club has been agreed with Tan
b) The method of payment is agreeable to Tan
c) An agreed solution has been agreed with Dalman regarding his debt.

What do we think the additional terms are?


On what basis are you confident the deal will go ahead when everything that has been mooted on here and elsewhere is pure speculation ? Hopefully a deal can be struck but until such time as it's officially confirmed by the club, I am treating all conjecture with a very large pinch of salt.


asked chatgpt

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 11:59 am

Tan has got the club in a positiobn where he can sell on his own terms.

He is keeps us for the foreseeable future, could well happen, what are the outgoings? A lot lot less now than they were last season. Mt fear is he could quite easily keep things ticking over, perhaps waiting to see how well we will do this season. He most likely has been advices to hang on to see if we do return back to the Championship.

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 12:11 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:Tan has got the club in a positiobn where he can sell on his own terms.

He is keeps us for the foreseeable future, could well happen, what are the outgoings? A lot lot less now than they were last season. Mt fear is he could quite easily keep things ticking over, perhaps waiting to see how well we will do this season. He most likely has been advices to hang on to see if we do return back to the Championship.

I’d love to know who advises Tan!
He’s his own man I think. IMO he’ll sell and there’s things going on atm that will slowly but surely get the club sold.

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 12:28 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:Tan has got the club in a positiobn where he can sell on his own terms.

He is keeps us for the foreseeable future, could well happen, what are the outgoings? A lot lot less now than they were last season. Mt fear is he could quite easily keep things ticking over, perhaps waiting to see how well we will do this season. He most likely has been advices to hang on to see if we do return back to the Championship.



Is it worth the gamble holding on? Don't get promotion he's looking at a big hit both in sale and income if stays! Promoted is he going to invest 20m+ to make us championship level? Promotion won't garauntee a buyer and will they pay his inflated price plus 40m dalmans money! If he's being advised to wait I would change advisor's...

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 1:25 pm

Today for the first time in 15 years Tan is on the edge of a precipice, this time last year we were potentially 9 months from top tier football, with a squad most believed were good enough to put us in touching distance. Under the continued “leadership” of the distant part-time, inept, incompetent and totally detached trio we finished rock bottom. So today we’re potentially 9 months away from the second tier, with a squad most believe can take us there, but, and not beyond the realms of reality, we’re 9 months from the spectre of 4th tier football, with 3 directors that are well qualified to take us there, coupled with with the dire consequences of many of the running costs of a top tier club. Tan’s gamble, if he continues to stay in the realms of fantasy, is how the new season starts. Mr. Tan, you’ve rode your luck for 15 years, the spectre of doom is staring you in the face, make one good decision, take what you can get and GO NOW
:bluescarf: :bluebird: :wave:

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 1:26 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:So I remain confident that the deal will go ahead....

But the one question I have is what is meant by "Tan will only sell on his terms?"

The reason I am a little confused is because, from my understanding:

a) The sale price of the club has been agreed with Tan
b) The method of payment is agreeable to Tan
c) An agreed solution has been agreed with Dalman regarding his debt.

What do we think the additional terms are?


My question is how do you know all this in your points a, b & c?

Nobody knows except Tan, his advisors and the buying party and even if this is real.

We all hope so but that’s all it is in my opinion.

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 1:29 pm

Abergavenny wrote:If i am selling anything It is on my terms Really would you expect anything else


Exactly my view as well.

He’s selling, he’s not desperate to sell I think so of course it’s his terms and he calls the shots.

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 1:49 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:So I remain confident that the deal will go ahead....

But the one question I have is what is meant by "Tan will only sell on his terms?"

The reason I am a little confused is because, from my understanding:

a) The sale price of the club has been agreed with Tan
b) The method of payment is agreeable to Tan
c) An agreed solution has been agreed with Dalman regarding his debt.

What do we think the additional terms are?


Although the payment is agreed has everything there been signed off. Where is the money coming from, is it reliable and are all legal documents been signed off. This will take time and a lot longer than when we first heard about all this. Its not something that happens overnight and requires privacy. Sale for the Dalman payment.

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 2:14 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:So I remain confident that the deal will go ahead....

But the one question I have is what is meant by "Tan will only sell on his terms?"

The reason I am a little confused is because, from my understanding:

a) The sale price of the club has been agreed with Tan
b) The method of payment is agreeable to Tan
c) An agreed solution has been agreed with Dalman regarding his debt.

What do we think the additional terms are?


Although the payment is agreed has everything there been signed off. Where is the money coming from, is it reliable and are all legal documents been signed off. This will take time and a lot longer than when we first heard about all this. Its not something that happens overnight and requires privacy. Sale for the Dalman payment.


I completely agree with this. I have no knowledge about the situation but I do know that these things take time.

Anyone who thought it would be a quick process from the time it was public knowledge were not understanding how complex these things are.

Put it this way, selling a house is a long process. Selling a football club is even longer.

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 6:22 pm

Wouldn't be surprised if tan wants extra if we get promoted or a sell on clause :lol:

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:23 pm

Northwalesblues wrote:Today for the first time in 15 years Tan is on the edge of a precipice, this time last year we were potentially 9 months from top tier football, with a squad most believed were good enough to put us in touching distance. Under the continued “leadership” of the distant part-time, inept, incompetent and totally detached trio we finished rock bottom. So today we’re potentially 9 months away from the second tier, with a squad most believe can take us there, but, and not beyond the realms of reality, we’re 9 months from the spectre of 4th tier football, with 3 directors that are well qualified to take us there, coupled with with the dire consequences of many of the running costs of a top tier club. Tan’s gamble, if he continues to stay in the realms of fantasy, is how the new season starts. Mr. Tan, you’ve rode your luck for 15 years, the spectre of doom is staring you in the face, make one good decision, take what you can get and GO NOW
:bluescarf: :bluebird: :wave:


Nicely put…..they are clueless and have done nothing for 13 years….2018 was down to Warnock and Warnock only.

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:39 pm

It has always been on his terms. He doesn't have to sell, he never has. A self made 73-year-old man, leaving his business empire to his kids and donating a lot to charities

Ask yourself who would know the details? I guess Tan's team is Malaysia-based, i just can't see how any locally based people are in the loop. So then it's the prospective buyers who, apart from Bale, remain anonymous; that's not an accident.

New Law are our solicitors; they remained snippet-free (it's their job) throughout the ongoing Sala affair.

I hope my skepticism is misplaced, and I live in hope, but until one of the national reporters start breaking the news of a takeover, I'll remain a skeptic. Sorry :cry:

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Wed Jul 30, 2025 8:07 am

gwentbluebirds wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if tan wants extra if we get promoted or a sell on clause :lol:



He might be considering a partial sale. Keeping a stake in the club while letting new owners come in, steady the ship, and hopefully move us up a league or two before cashing out fully. It’s a bit like what the Glazers have done, only he could hand over 51% staying in the background while the value climbs. If I knew as little about football as he does, thats what I would do.

If they don't go for that he will almost certainly try and do a deal for extra payments on promotions, thats why it's complex and is going to take a long time, look at the Sala situation, it's still going on.

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Wed Jul 30, 2025 8:19 am

Bluebina wrote:
gwentbluebirds wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if tan wants extra if we get promoted or a sell on clause :lol:



He might be considering a partial sale. Keeping a stake in the club while letting new owners come in, steady the ship, and hopefully move us up a league or two before cashing out fully. It’s a bit like what the Glazers have done, only he could hand over 51% staying in the background while the value climbs. If I knew as little about football as he does, thats what I would do.

If they don't go for that he will almost certainly try and do a deal for extra payments on promotions, thats why it's complex and is going to take a long time, look at the Sala situation, it's still going on.


I saw somewhere that this was what the bale deal was they would buy 51% and give tan a stake keeping so much in the club and they run it , benefits him if we go up ....soon see but we need new owners regardless this club needs a change and people who want to push us on and be involved day to day .

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Wed Jul 30, 2025 8:20 am

Protests needed on Saturday?

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Wed Jul 30, 2025 8:26 am

joeywills98 wrote:Protests needed on Saturday?


Go and join the boys then.

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Wed Jul 30, 2025 9:58 am

I’m one of VT’s least favourite fans as many will no doubt know, but why does any deal hinge on Dalman getting his cash back and not taking a big loss like Vincent? What’s he done in the last 3 years of running the club financially (terribly) to be worthy of it? If I’d blown say £3 million running my business badly and it was now worth way less I’d have to kiss it goodbye…….

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Wed Jul 30, 2025 12:04 pm

goats wrote:I’m one of VT’s least favourite fans as many will no doubt know, but why does any deal hinge on Dalman getting his cash back and not taking a big loss like Vincent? What’s he done in the last 3 years of running the club financially (terribly) to be worthy of it? If I’d blown say £3 million running my business badly and it was now worth way less I’d have to kiss it goodbye…….

Dalmans £40 mill loan is owed directly by Tan, if the South Africans have done a deal with Dalman which he is obviously happy with it will be the only way that Dalman will see a return on his investment. Tan will go on making horrendous decisions which will benefit no one.

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Wed Jul 30, 2025 7:06 pm

cityone wrote:
goats wrote:I’m one of VT’s least favourite fans as many will no doubt know, but why does any deal hinge on Dalman getting his cash back and not taking a big loss like Vincent? What’s he done in the last 3 years of running the club financially (terribly) to be worthy of it? If I’d blown say £3 million running my business badly and it was now worth way less I’d have to kiss it goodbye…….

Dalmans £40 mill loan is owed directly by Tan, if the South Africans have done a deal with Dalman which he is obviously happy with it will be the only way that Dalman will see a return on his investment. Tan will go on making horrendous decisions which will benefit no one.



How do you know the structural detail of the loan?
That detail isn't on the accounts. Dalman is a City/square mile guy; punting an unsecured 40 mill to get a 7% return seems way too risky.
He is a smart cookie, i just can't see it be unsecured. Love to be proven wrong.

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Wed Jul 30, 2025 7:24 pm

llan bluebird wrote:
cityone wrote:
goats wrote:I’m one of VT’s least favourite fans as many will no doubt know, but why does any deal hinge on Dalman getting his cash back and not taking a big loss like Vincent? What’s he done in the last 3 years of running the club financially (terribly) to be worthy of it? If I’d blown say £3 million running my business badly and it was now worth way less I’d have to kiss it goodbye…….

Dalmans £40 mill loan is owed directly by Tan, if the South Africans have done a deal with Dalman which he is obviously happy with it will be the only way that Dalman will see a return on his investment. Tan will go on making horrendous decisions which will benefit no one.



How do you know the structural detail of the loan?
That detail isn't on the accounts. Dalman is a City/square mile guy; punting an unsecured 40 mill to get a 7% return seems way too risky.
He is a smart cookie, i just can't see it be unsecured. Love to be proven wrong.



Only Real risk is if City enter administration but that is never going to happen ... but he is clever financial operator do guess he's built in safeguards regarding getting paid like if club is sold?

Re: Tan will only sell on his terms

Wed Jul 30, 2025 8:05 pm

Unsecured makes no sense to me.

Over 5 years, £28 million would have compounded to a couple of quid short of 40 mill....nice work. I get why Dalman wouldn't want to be a shareholder without control as Tans' debt conversion waters down stock value.
I can see this being a way to own a chunk of the club without stock.

I just can't see a mere multi-millionaire :mrgreen: pumping that much of his wealth (i guess it's a syndicate) into a football club without hard securities