WAYNNE NASH WILL HE CHANGE ?

Will he change his attitude or do we need a campaign to oust him from his position, as he seems to be frowned upon as much as Vincent Tan due to his Adolf Hitler style of policing the stadium?

Do the fans reps have any say on a possible chat with this guy or the owners to what they would like to see change,maybe to how we see things done in most other stadiums, i.e. an atmosphere?

Personally I have not witnessed at most Championship clubs nowhere near the amount of segregation as ours. At a lot of aways, I have virtually been able to almost shake hands with home fans between a line of stewards, and i have never witnessed any projectiles been thrown, as the cctv these days can pinpoint exactly where it came from, resulting in handing out a lifetime ban which puts 99.9% of this happening.

Plus, this idea that Cardiff are a special case when other clubs back in the 70s where hurling small potatoes with razor blades attached to away fans is ridiculous. We are no better or worse than any other club, and I feel Nash has been reading the rulebook as a bedtime read for far to long; almost like a religious bible.

I suspect even after a meeting he would not be for change, so we as fans could start chanting get out of our club if there is enough strong feeling to do so, and rebuild an atmosphere akin to most other pro football clubs.

Will he change his attitude or do we need a campaign to oust him from his position,
as he seems to be frowned upon as much as Vincent Tan due to his Adolf Hitler style of policing the stadium.
Do the fans reps have any say on a possible chat with this guy or the owners to what they would like to see change,maybe to how we see things done in most other stadiums,an atmosphere

Personally I have not witnessed at most championship clubs nowhere near the ammount of segregation as ours,
at a lot of aways I have virtually been able to almost shake hands with home fans between a line of stewards, and i have never witnessed any projectiles been thrown as the cctv these days can pinpoint exactly where it came from,
Resulting in handing out a lifetime ban which puts 99.9% of this happening .
Plus this idea that cardiff are a special case when other clubs back in the 70s where hurling small potatoes with razor blades attached to away fans is ridiculous.
We are no better or worse than any other club,
and I feel Nash has been reading the rulebook as bedtime read for far to long, almost like a religious bible,I suspect even after a meeting he would not be for change,
so we as fans could start chanting get out of our club if there is enough strong feeling to do so ,and rebuild an atmosphere akin to most other pro football clubs.

Monty looking at Gary ottos way of running a club I suspect he will soon pick up on what's going on at club if he doesn't already know..... Nash time is up just a matter of time..... we won't see change of canton stand but don't be surprised if less segregation for most games.... problem got is club won't sell ST in the corner of ninian
Only be match day sales if required... but we'll see and he'll do what's best for fans within H&S guideline

Monty, for the sake of the atmosphere and getting the stadium more full again, I would hope that regardless of the conversations with any new owner, that Nash is removed from his position.

Most of us if not all would not believe a word that comes out of his mouth.

He has made his bed and now he has to lay in it.

Nash job is to keep people in the stadium safe, that is exactly what he does whether we like it or not, you cant sack someone for doing what his jobs role is. Met him a few times at Wales games, he is a decent bloke with a job to do and people talking of wanting him sacked-give your head a wobble ffs.

Im all for the current change and agree the segregation does sometimes look very large but wanting someone to lose their job because of it or over zealous stewarding is a tad too much.

Nash job is to keep people in the stadium safe, that is exactly what he does whether we like it or not, you cant sack someone for doing what his jobs role is. Met him a few times at Wales games, he is a decent bloke with a job to do and people talking of wanting him sacked-give your head a wobble ffs.

Im all for the current change and agree the segregation does sometimes look very large but wanting someone to lose their job because of it or over zealous stewarding is a tad too much.

Not sure about stadium as he doesn't effect me ...but do know that the staff he controls he is not exactly on their birthday/Xmas card list! He simply isn't liked by ones I chat to and it's a fair few. Mostly it's his dictorial attitude towards them

Nash job is to keep people in the stadium safe, that is exactly what he does whether we like it or not, you cant sack someone for doing what his jobs role is. Met him a few times at Wales games, he is a decent bloke with a job to do and people talking of wanting him sacked-give your head a wobble ffs.

Im all for the current change and agree the segregation does sometimes look very large but wanting someone to lose their job because of it or over zealous stewarding is a tad too much.

Not sure about stadium as he doesn't effect me ...but do know that the staff he controls he is not exactly on their birthday/Xmas card list! He simply isn't liked by ones I chat to and it's a fair few. Mostly it's his dictorial attitude towards them

That's a fair call but I would hope that if he overstepped the mark then they would report him, we have all had dictators as bosses in the past but in terms of his key role he does what he has to and clearly the old bill support him and the FAW do. Will it change under new owners, who knows what will happen?

Bit rash for Nash , who.is he, is he important, does he deserve ones attention, does he sell cars ?

The swapping of stands I hope gets at least a review discussion

Last few seasons in the canton have been getting worse. Draconian stewarding. Even one guy saying my foot was half on the yellow line. I have noticed two of my favourite stewards I had great banter with have disappeared. And more ejections down the steps with fans shrugging their shoulders as they are being frog marched. Norwich away, my mate was on a coach with Wayne Nash with his mates, and Wayne wasn’t giving them an inch in having a bit of fun. Two sides to every story of course, , and I have had a good previous experience with him when my son was younger, he was brilliant, plus my dad knew him and his family in his younger days but his influence goes beyond the stadium.

I would hope some sort of meeting could take place with him his team and fans. Fact is atmosphere has been terrible and not just because of what’s on the pitch, and I agree that stadium management team have influenced that. Changes have to be made

I would say the most annoying part is that away fans seem to get away with loads yet the home fans seem to be dealt with stricter.

August 2024 we were the 5th safest ground to visit in the UK!

Get him out

Wayne Nash is at everyone of our meetings with the club and between Wayne and Keith Morgan they decide on a lot of things between them.
They have decided two years in a row to make the home end further from the away end and have both said “Why do our fans have to see and look at away fans,they should be facing the pitch.”

Nash job is to keep people in the stadium safe, that is exactly what he does whether we like it or not, you cant sack someone for doing what his jobs role is. Met him a few times at Wales games, he is a decent bloke with a job to do and people talking of wanting him sacked-give your head a wobble ffs.

Im all for the current change and agree the segregation does sometimes look very large but wanting someone to lose their job because of it or over zealous stewarding is a tad too much.

I've met him aswell and he's a wanker full stop.I remember him saying he didn't want any of the old A-BLOCK grandstand lads in the new stadium.These were among city's most vocal fans,all he wants is a silent souless bowl of a stadium.Stewards hate him also.

Nash job is to keep people in the stadium safe, that is exactly what he does whether we like it or not, you cant sack someone for doing what his jobs role is. Met him a few times at Wales games, he is a decent bloke with a job to do and people talking of wanting him sacked-give your head a wobble ffs.

Im all for the current change and agree the segregation does sometimes look very large but wanting someone to lose their job because of it or over zealous stewarding is a tad too much.

Your missing the point the segregation is not there when wales are playing in the stadium, so why is it so when cardiff play.

Nash job is to keep people in the stadium safe, that is exactly what he does whether we like it or not, you cant sack someone for doing what his jobs role is. Met him a few times at Wales games, he is a decent bloke with a job to do and people talking of wanting him sacked-give your head a wobble ffs.

Im all for the current change and agree the segregation does sometimes look very large but wanting someone to lose their job because of it or over zealous stewarding is a tad too much.

Your missing the point the segregation is not there when wales are playing in the stadium, so why is it so when cardiff play.

Totally different atmosphere between fans when Wales play you know that Monty, if we cant make atmosphere when we aren't near away fans then we aren't going to when right next to them, we seemed to make a good atmosphere against the Jacks and further away from them, why cant we do it when close to other teams at home?

But I understand what your saying

Nash job is to keep people in the stadium safe, that is exactly what he does whether we like it or not, you cant sack someone for doing what his jobs role is. Met him a few times at Wales games, he is a decent bloke with a job to do and people talking of wanting him sacked-give your head a wobble ffs.

Im all for the current change and agree the segregation does sometimes look very large but wanting someone to lose their job because of it or over zealous stewarding is a tad too much.

Your missing the point the segregation is not there when wales are playing in the stadium, so why is it so when cardiff play.

Totally different atmosphere between fans when Wales play you know that Monty, if we cant make atmosphere when we aren't near away fans then we aren't going to when right next to them, we seemed to make a good atmosphere against the Jacks and further away from them, why cant we do it when close to other teams at home?

But I understand what your saying

Sorry but disagree it's overkill and you know that,
or have you not been away to other stadiums you never see this sort of segregation with fans next to each other if it's ok with them to have opposing fans next to each other why not us.?

Nash job is to keep people in the stadium safe, that is exactly what he does whether we like it or not, you cant sack someone for doing what his jobs role is. Met him a few times at Wales games, he is a decent bloke with a job to do and people talking of wanting him sacked-give your head a wobble ffs.

Im all for the current change and agree the segregation does sometimes look very large but wanting someone to lose their job because of it or over zealous stewarding is a tad too much.

Your missing the point the segregation is not there when wales are playing in the stadium, so why is it so when cardiff play.

Totally different atmosphere between fans when Wales play you know that Monty, if we cant make atmosphere when we aren't near away fans then we aren't going to when right next to them, we seemed to make a good atmosphere against the Jacks and further away from them, why cant we do it when close to other teams at home?

But I understand what your saying

Sorry but disagree it's overkill and you know that,
or have you not been away to other stadiums you never see this sort of segregation with fans next to each other if it's ok with them to have opposing fans next to each other why not us.?

Agreed

Good post Monty and I completely agree he should either change or go.

I also note above that Keith Morgan, who represents a tiny amount of fans, works with WN and it's down to the two of them that we have this ridiculous segregation gap. This cosy relationship needs to be reviewed as Keith has previously said he supports this segregation due to "bodycam footage" of a steward being harassed! I sit in 117 specifically for the atmosphere and there is never and has never been a problem. So it appears that WN is using Keith as a "fan rep" to bolster his case for this ridiculous no man's land, why doesn't that surprise me?

Have the FAB brought this important issue of atmosphere and segregation up as I don't recollect seeing it in the minutes? If they haven't, they need to as it's a boardroom issue.

Whilst the size of segregation is excessive by any standards except maybe for leeds/swans games....the swapping of stands will never happen due to H&S setup at sporting events.... I've noticed several clubs have in fact done opposite and moved fans away from each other in recent seasons..... butb there is absolutely no reason to have a whole block separation at ccs regardless of H&S ..

Good post Monty and I completely agree he should either change or go.

I also note above that Keith Morgan, who represents a tiny amount of fans, works with WN and it's down to the two of them that we have this ridiculous segregation gap. This cosy relationship needs to be reviewed as Keith has previously said he supports this segregation due to "bodycam footage" of a steward being harassed! I sit in 117 specifically for the atmosphere and there is never and has never been a problem. So it appears that WN is using Keith as a "fan rep" to bolster his case for this ridiculous no man's land, why doesn't that surprise me?

Have the FAB brought this important issue of atmosphere and segregation up as I don't recollect seeing it in the minutes? If they haven't, they need to as it's a boardroom issue.

Ok budd
Nash does not apply the same rules on international games so imo it's a personal view of his own which should not be the case,
the FAW have no issues with how the stadium is marshalled because they want to sell all the seats .

Good post Monty and I completely agree he should either change or go.

I also note above that Keith Morgan, who represents a tiny amount of fans, works with WN and it's down to the two of them that we have this ridiculous segregation gap. This cosy relationship needs to be reviewed as Keith has previously said he supports this segregation due to "bodycam footage" of a steward being harassed! I sit in 117 specifically for the atmosphere and there is never and has never been a problem. So it appears that WN is using Keith as a "fan rep" to bolster his case for this ridiculous no man's land, why doesn't that surprise me?

Have the FAB brought this important issue of atmosphere and segregation up as I don't recollect seeing it in the minutes? If they haven't, they need to as it's a boardroom issue.

Ok budd
Nash does not apply the same rules on international games so imo it's a personal view of his own which should not be the case,
the FAW have no issues with how the stadium is marshalled because they want to sell all the seats .

What concerns me too is if the poster above is correct, Keith Morgan and the Trust are cosying up to WN to support his recommendation of ridiculous segregation as part of their little power trip. They only have 400 members so not representative of the majority. So why should they appear to exert negative influence on this important issue which is against the majorities wishes?

A new owner would see this problem and it would be a day one action, much like the badge and red seat replacement.

Good post Monty and I completely agree he should either change or go.

I also note above that Keith Morgan, who represents a tiny amount of fans, works with WN and it's down to the two of them that we have this ridiculous segregation gap. This cosy relationship needs to be reviewed as Keith has previously said he supports this segregation due to "bodycam footage" of a steward being harassed! I sit in 117 specifically for the atmosphere and there is never and has never been a problem. So it appears that WN is using Keith as a "fan rep" to bolster his case for this ridiculous no man's land, why doesn't that surprise me?

Have the FAB brought this important issue of atmosphere and segregation up as I don't recollect seeing it in the minutes? If they haven't, they need to as it's a boardroom issue.

Ok budd
Nash does not apply the same rules on international games so imo it's a personal view of his own which should not be the case,
the FAW have no issues with how the stadium is marshalled because they want to sell all the seats .

What concerns me too is if the poster above is correct, Keith Morgan and the Trust are cosying up to WN to support his recommendation of ridiculous segregation as part of their little power trip. They only have 400 members so not representative of the majority. So why should they appear to exert negative influence on this important issue which is against the majorities wishes?

A new owner would see this problem and it would be a day one action, much like the badge and red seat replacement.

I think faw work withing uefa/fifa rules on fans hence less segregation.... but as said no need for a whole block as segregation in league games...

Good post Monty and I completely agree he should either change or go.

I also note above that Keith Morgan, who represents a tiny amount of fans, works with WN and it's down to the two of them that we have this ridiculous segregation gap. This cosy relationship needs to be reviewed as Keith has previously said he supports this segregation due to "bodycam footage" of a steward being harassed! I sit in 117 specifically for the atmosphere and there is never and has never been a problem. So it appears that WN is using Keith as a "fan rep" to bolster his case for this ridiculous no man's land, why doesn't that surprise me?

Have the FAB brought this important issue of atmosphere and segregation up as I don't recollect seeing it in the minutes? If they haven't, they need to as it's a boardroom issue.

Ok budd
Nash does not apply the same rules on international games so imo it's a personal view of his own which should not be the case,
the FAW have no issues with how the stadium is marshalled because they want to sell all the seats .

What concerns me too is if the poster above is correct, Keith Morgan and the Trust are cosying up to WN to support his recommendation of ridiculous segregation as part of their little power trip. They only have 400 members so not representative of the majority. So why should they appear to exert negative influence on this important issue which is against the majorities wishes?

A new owner would see this problem and it would be a day one action, much like the badge and red seat replacement.

I think faw work withing uefa/fifa rules on fans hence less segregation.... but as said no need for a whole block as segregation in league games...

So are you saying Wayne Nash takes a back seat when internationals are played at the city stadium and if he does or does' nt why does he not see for himself that it can work.
And if he takes no notice of how it can work, then it's his own personal view that,
when city play i separate and when wales play it's not a problem ,
which is entirely wrong, the stadium security should either be the same or not at all.

Wayne Nash is a good example of someone promoted beyond their capability due to nepotism

Wayne Nash is a good example of someone promoted beyond their capability due to nepotism

Sven

This should not be the case, it seems to me over the past few years on the forum that he Nash has been the subject of annoying a lot of fans and I have heard directly from a steward that he speaks for quite a lot of the stewards that Nash is not liked and his views towards fans are not shared by him and other stewards.

Wayne Nash is a good example of someone promoted beyond their capability due to nepotism

Sven

This should not be the case, it seems to me over the past few years on the forum that he Nash has been the subject of annoying a lot of fans and I have heard directly from a steward that he speaks for quite a lot of the stewards that Nash is not liked and his views towards fans are not shared by him and other stewards.

I posted same monty the people who are under him do not like is authoritarian attitude towards them... no people skills by sound of it.

Wayne Nash is a good example of someone promoted beyond their capability due to nepotism

Sven

This should not be the case, it seems to me over the past few years on the forum that he Nash has been the subject of annoying a lot of fans and I have heard directly from a steward that he speaks for quite a lot of the stewards that Nash is not liked and his views towards fans are not shared by him and other stewards.

Monty, welcome to the ‘insider’ world of the Tan dynasty! Promote people who will do your bidding with no question in fear of their (inflated) job!

People work in fear of Tan, and that filters down to people working in fear of Wayne Nash, if whispers are to be believed

Wayne Nash is a good example of someone promoted beyond their capability due to nepotism

Sven

This should not be the case, it seems to me over the past few years on the forum that he Nash has been the subject of annoying a lot of fans and I have heard directly from a steward that he speaks for quite a lot of the stewards that Nash is not liked and his views towards fans are not shared by him and other stewards.

Monty, welcome to the ‘insider’ world of the Tan dynasty! Promote people who will do your bidding with no question in fear of their (inflated) job!

People work in fear of Tan, and that filters down to people working in fear of Wayne Nash, if whispers are to be believed

Time for it to come to an end I would suggest let's hope things change for the better.

Nash job is to keep people in the stadium safe, that is exactly what he does whether we like it or not, you cant sack someone for doing what his jobs role is. Met him a few times at Wales games, he is a decent bloke with a job to do and people talking of wanting him sacked-give your head a wobble ffs.

Im all for the current change and agree the segregation does sometimes look very large but wanting someone to lose their job because of it or over zealous stewarding is a tad too much.

Your missing the point the segregation is not there when wales are playing in the stadium, so why is it so when cardiff play.

Totally different atmosphere between fans when Wales play you know that Monty, if we cant make atmosphere when we aren't near away fans then we aren't going to when right next to them, we seemed to make a good atmosphere against the Jacks and further away from them, why cant we do it when close to other teams at home?

But I understand what your saying

Sorry but disagree it's overkill and you know that,
or have you not been away to other stadiums you never see this sort of segregation with fans next to each other if it's ok with them to have opposing fans next to each other why not us.?

Been to plenty of away games and will be this season, it was just my opinion and I am not saying your wrong either as the gap sometimes is over the top

I’ve never met the man but I do know quite a few people who do know him and he’s definitely not a very popular person that’s for sure

The stewarding does seem a bit over zealous at times but then again we still have a few idiots who need a slap now and again

The perceived lack of atmosphere would be solved overnight with a decent team pushing for promotion