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New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 3:34 pm

Seems a new name has been put out there on social media platform X for this mysterious South African investor we have been wondering about.

The name is Gary Otto. This comes from the Username IamNotABot who as many will know that use that platform does seem to have a good amount of insider information from the club and is well known for putting out accurate hints about player signings.

While he doesnt actually mention the name himself he all but confirms hes apart of a group through some of the replies on this thread https://x.com/IAmNotABot34832/status/19 ... 2798822437

As for Gary Otto himself there isnt alot of available information out there on him, apart from him being a shareholder of Sutton United and this short article he wrote about himself and his interest in football to date.
https://yardstrength.com/gary-otto

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 3:41 pm

Thread on X seems to have been taken down.

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 3:54 pm

Roath_Blue wrote:Thread on X seems to have been taken down.

Apologies I forgot the account has privacy restrictions on their posts so would have to be following them to see the thread I assume?

Would think its that as the thread is still there for me :thumbup:

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 3:56 pm

I thought Gary Otto owned Sutton United?

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 3:57 pm

Surely due to having part ownership of Sutton United he wouldn't be allowed to have anything to do with us due to multi club ownership rules

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 4:07 pm

Blue since 1981 wrote:Surely due to having part ownership of Sutton United he wouldn't be allowed to have anything to do with us due to multi club ownership rules

Would assume so yes but not certain how it works or even if he is the main investor or just a minority stake possibly? Sounds like he is the face of a group of backers with big cash behind them.

Another answer to that could be that hes selling his shares in Sutton to move onto us. All just speculation and guesswork though from myself.

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 4:09 pm

Blue since 1981 wrote:Surely due to having part ownership of Sutton United he wouldn't be allowed to have anything to do with us due to multi club ownership rules


Not sure but doesn't it depend on the amount of the shareholding? And if its a problem I would imagine he would sell the Sutton shares as they are a very small club. Incidently apparently he is a Leeds fan so he will know all about us! :lol:

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 4:13 pm

TrueBlue99 wrote:
Blue since 1981 wrote:Surely due to having part ownership of Sutton United he wouldn't be allowed to have anything to do with us due to multi club ownership rules

Would assume so yes but not certain how it works or even if he is the main investor or just a minority stake possibly? Sounds like he is the face of a group of backers with big cash behind them.

Another answer to that could be that hes selling his shares in Sutton to move onto us. All just speculation and guesswork though from myself.

Yea I was thinking maybe he is selling his 10% in Sutton as I'm pretty sure the rules are pretty strict around being involved with multiple clubs

Also I'm sure he must just be the face of a much wealthier group of people as otto himself isnt very wealthy in the terms of what we would need to push on I doubt his net worth is even close to the dictator himself

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 4:48 pm

6 billion him and his family are worth .interesting that hes from la

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:04 pm

TrueBlue99 wrote:
Blue since 1981 wrote:Surely due to having part ownership of Sutton United he wouldn't be allowed to have anything to do with us due to multi club ownership rules

Would assume so yes but not certain how it works or even if he is the main investor or just a minority stake possibly? Sounds like he is the face of a group of backers with big cash behind them.

Another answer to that could be that hes selling his shares in Sutton to move onto us. All just speculation and guesswork though from myself.



There are 3 main shareholders he is not the main owner and as such may fall outside dual ownership criteria.

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:16 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
TrueBlue99 wrote:
Blue since 1981 wrote:Surely due to having part ownership of Sutton United he wouldn't be allowed to have anything to do with us due to multi club ownership rules

Would assume so yes but not certain how it works or even if he is the main investor or just a minority stake possibly? Sounds like he is the face of a group of backers with big cash behind them.

Another answer to that could be that hes selling his shares in Sutton to move onto us. All just speculation and guesswork though from myself.



There are 3 main shareholders he is not the main owner and as such may fall outside dual ownership criteria.


Or sell his shares in Sutton to be full-time with us

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:16 pm

wez1927 wrote:6 billion him and his family are worth .interesting that hes from la

I do have a gut feeling that Bale is somehow involved in this bid.it just seems to tie in with his improved bid quote . Might be wishful thinking on my part but maybe Bales consortium is the South Africans I don’t think anything was ever said about Bales consortium identity?

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:18 pm

darran1927 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:6 billion him and his family are worth .interesting that hes from la

I do have a gut feeling that Bale is somehow involved in this bid.it just seems to tie in with his improved bid quote . Might be wishful thinking on my part but maybe Bales consortium is the South Africans I don’t think anything was ever said about Bales consortium identity?

Apparently hes not

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:19 pm

darran1927 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:6 billion him and his family are worth .interesting that hes from la

I do have a gut feeling that Bale is somehow involved in this bid.it just seems to tie in with his improved bid quote . Might be wishful thinking on my part but maybe Bales consortium is the South Africans I don’t think anything was ever said about Bales consortium identity?



Usa was mentioned for bales consortium

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:19 pm

This stinks of steve Day rumours all over to me.


Hope i am completely wrong

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:20 pm

willhenry wrote:This stinks of steve Day rumours all over to me.


Hope i am completely wrong



What does? You seem to be throwing negative quotes all over the forum?

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:20 pm

willhenry wrote:This stinks of steve Day rumours all over to me.


Hope i am completely wrong

Its not , apparently there is a middle man than people know and will come out after they buy us that has connected the club to the investors .

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:22 pm

Thanks Wez appreciated mate

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:22 pm

gwentbluebirds wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
TrueBlue99 wrote:
Blue since 1981 wrote:Surely due to having part ownership of Sutton United he wouldn't be allowed to have anything to do with us due to multi club ownership rules

Would assume so yes but not certain how it works or even if he is the main investor or just a minority stake possibly? Sounds like he is the face of a group of backers with big cash behind them.

Another answer to that could be that hes selling his shares in Sutton to move onto us. All just speculation and guesswork though from myself.



There are 3 main shareholders he is not the main owner and as such may fall outside dual ownership criteria.


Or sell his shares in Sutton to be full-time with us



More than likely as we are more of a catch than Sutton ? with all due respect to them..

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:29 pm

wez1927 wrote:
willhenry wrote:This stinks of steve Day rumours all over to me.


Hope i am completely wrong

Its not , apparently there is a middle man than people know and will come out after they buy us that has connected the club to the investors .

The penny has dropped its all making sense now Wez how the info is getting though via middle man

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 6:18 pm

This Guy Gary Otto hope he’s got some serious backers behind him. Yes he’s rich but not in football terms. We need serious investment to get us back where we belong.

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:01 pm

This Gary Otto guy seems good. He transformed Sutton, helped them get promoted to league 2 from the 5th tier. They were favourites to go straight back down but they consolidated their place coz they invested in youth. Worked wonders apparently to get their ground up to scratch so they could play in league 2.

He also absolutely lives and breaths football...how refreshing! And one of the 1st things he did when he got Sutton was hire a director of football. Only one negative, and its quite a big one...he's a Leeds Utd fan haha

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:18 pm

Interesting reading he as tried for 15yrs or so to get into football club ownership before finally ending up by accident at Sutton United... he does live breath football he's just the kind of guy we want and need at city to lead a consortium ....

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:32 pm

JJ1927 wrote:
Blue since 1981 wrote:Surely due to having part ownership of Sutton United he wouldn't be allowed to have anything to do with us due to multi club ownership rules


Not sure but doesn't it depend on the amount of the shareholding? And if its a problem I would imagine he would sell the Sutton shares as they are a very small club. Incidently apparently he is a Leeds fan so he will know all about us! :lol:



If he is the SA guy, I’m sure he’s been able to get a lot of info from Steve Morison!

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 10:38 pm

Still leaning towards Bale’s bid as preference as most of his investments are tied up within Cardiff the city and he appears genuine as wanting to enhance the area’s potential, with a Premier League football team no doubt even more likely to boost his other businesses.

Unfortunately the Vincent Tan experience has scared me off from owners who want a play thing.

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Sun Jul 20, 2025 11:36 pm

M4 Exile wrote:Still leaning towards Bale’s bid as preference as most of his investments are tied up within Cardiff the city and he appears genuine as wanting to enhance the area’s potential, with a Premier League football team no doubt even more likely to boost his other businesses.

Unfortunately the Vincent Tan experience has scared me off from owners who want a play thing.



If its Gary otto involved he is a genuine football kind of guy who will have city's interest at heart! Soon as took over at Sutton brought in Dof and other measures to enhance the club they improved after he took them over. So whilst agree about tan part otto doesn't see football as a play thing..

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Mon Jul 21, 2025 5:39 am

:laughing6:
TrueBlue99 wrote:Seems a new name has been put out there on social media platform X for this mysterious South African investor we have been wondering about.

The name is Gary Otto. This comes from the Username IamNotABot who as many will know that use that platform does seem to have a good amount of insider information from the club and is well known for putting out accurate hints about player signings.

While he doesnt actually mention the name himself he all but confirms hes apart of a group through some of the replies on this thread https://x.com/IAmNotABot34832/status/19 ... 2798822437

As for Gary Otto himself there isnt alot of available information out there on him, apart from him being a shareholder of Sutton United and this short article he wrote about himself and his interest in football to date.
https://yardstrength.com/gary-otto




He could be an interesting owner.

Tom Hanks played him in a man called Otto. :laughing6:

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:04 am

Hope Hank is not an Otto prank and that we get a bale out as soon as possible

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Mon Jul 21, 2025 11:23 am

New Day Rising wrote:Hope Hank is not an Otto prank and that we get a bale out as soon as possible
:laughing6:

Here is the real Mr Gary Conrad Otto talking about his life and interest in football on a podcast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3UNH3mcSgU

Watched football in the 70's and liked Leeds at that time.

Re: New rumored name of SA investor

Mon Jul 21, 2025 1:28 pm

Can't wait to find out who our actual owners will be? The money men!! :occasion5:
Although his family is worth $6b
Not sure he'll use it... :o