How on earth can Nantes be responsible is beyond me . The d

How on earth can Nantes be responsible is beyond me .

The deal was done and finished …100% ….he was Our player .

Any role for McKay as an agent was 100% finished as much as I dislike them and know they are corrupt.

If he was indeed guilty (which is very very hard to prove) ….at that point …he most defiantly was not acting for Nantes and Nantes had nothing to do with Sala’s travel .

Anyway ….McKay was supposed to know about the plane’s worthiness to fly ?? He was supposed to know that the pilot was 100% qualified ?

Very simply the Sala thing was a tragedy .

Sala wanted to go to Nantes …to wrap up dome personal loose ends ….and was desperate and pushing to get back for training with his new teammates ….in order to play the next day in a scheduled league game .

Like I did so msny times ….something is wrong eighth Tan’s psyche ….he has been in more courts than Raphael Nadal

I hope I am wrong and Tan can succeed . The bottom line is this has cost our clubs £millions in fines, interest and lawyers.

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Cardiff City did initially deny that Emiliano Sala was their player following his death in a plane crash, claiming the transfer was not finalized. However, FIFA and the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) ruled against Cardiff, stating the transfer was validly concluded and Cardiff was liable for the transfer fee.


Here's a more detailed explanation:
Initial Denial:


Cardiff City argued that Emiliano Sala was not officially their player at the time of his death because certain contractual details had not been completed.


FIFA Ruling:
FIFA, the world's football governing body, disagreed with Cardiff's stance and ruled that the transfer was valid.

Isn't it the opposite now?

He WAS our player so WHY were Nantes' Agent arranging a flight for him?

Isn't it the opposite now?

He WAS our player so WHY were Nantes' Agent arranging a flight for him?

Wayne the agent was also Warnocks mate and we had his two Soms in our U21 Team.

t 12pm on the Friday Sala was nothing to do with Nantes FC as we had signed him as our player in Cardiff from then on Sala was our responsibility.


The agent is suppose to be independent from both clubs but was actually helping both.

If we sold a player and the other club signed for him from that minute he would not be our responsibility.


We have lost every legal court case.

That’s why we have had to take out a Civil case.

David Henderson is the one to blame for the crash that took his life.

He is a qualified pilot who had been paid to fly Sala to Cardiff.

He was the one who organised the plane (so was able to check the servicing history etc) and he was the one who hired Ibbotson to fly Sala back instead of him.

He knew that Ibbotson didn’t have the correct license to fly IFR and also knew that his type rating had expired.

David Henderson is the one to blame for the crash that took his life.

He is a qualified pilot who had been paid to fly Sala to Cardiff.

He was the one who organised the plane (so was able to check the servicing history etc) and he was the one who hired Ibbotson to fly Sala back instead of him.

He knew that Ibbotson didn’t have the correct license to fly IFR and also knew that his type rating had expired.

Correct


And not paid by Cardiff or Nantes to do that

At end day someone is willing to take on the job to get Money from who's responsible for his death in this last court case? So if someone is willing to do a no win no fee agreement someone knows more than people on here as to the merits of suing for losses over relegation ! I guess we'll find out soon enough whether they're chasing non existing money or millions ? My money be on this company winning case

At end day someone is willing to take on the job to get Money from who's responsible for his death in this last court case? So if someone is willing to do a no win no fee agreement someone knows more than people on here as to the merits of suing for losses over relegation ! I guess we'll find out soon enough whether they're chasing non existing money or millions ? My money be on this company winning case

Allan,


Where did you hear it’s No Win No Fee?

We have lost £millions Fines, interest. Lawyers

I think Annis is spot on and I totally agree.

I think Annis is spot on and I totally agree.

Thank you Ned,

From 12pm that Friday when Sala had Signed for Cardiff City, Sala was 100% a Cardiff City player he was in Wales and No longer Nantes responsibility.

Once Fifa and courts confirmed he was our player I could not see that we had anything else to gain Lawyers seem to think differently it seems but for the life of me I don’t know why

At end day someone is willing to take on the job to get Money from who's responsible for his death in this last court case? So if someone is willing to do a no win no fee agreement someone knows more than people on here as to the merits of suing for losses over relegation ! I guess we'll find out soon enough whether they're chasing non existing money or millions ? My money be on this company winning case

Allan,


Where did you hear it’s No Win No Fee?

We have lost £millions Fines, interest. Lawyers[/quote

Correct me if wrong but the case as been taken over by a company who are bearing cost of case with them getting a percentage of the award if the case is won?.. is that not no win no fee basis or did I read it wrong originally?

Yes upto company taking over tan as probably paid out money again! But soon find out if Nantes have got something to answer for in respect of the death of sala.

We haven’t sold all of the potential settlement of the Sala case. Only a part of it.
Here’s an extract from the club statement from March this year.
The results for the year have benefitted from exceptional gains of £18.4m.

The main driver therein is the £12m receivable from the sale of a “percentage” share of the ultimate proceeds from a litigation claim made by the club.

The sum receivable is non-refundable and not dependant on the ultimate outcome of the litigation case itself.

We haven’t sold all of the potential settlement of the Sala case. Only a part of it.
Here’s an extract from the club statement from March this year.
The results for the year have benefitted from exceptional gains of £18.4m.

The main driver therein is the £12m receivable from the sale of a “percentage” share of the ultimate proceeds from a litigation claim made by the club.

The sum receivable is non-refundable and not dependant on the ultimate outcome of the litigation case itself.

massive really we've recieved the sala few ba k in this payment and the 5 million from the insurers, anything else now is a bonus

Macay is being taken to court for breaking a court order to devulge all information regarding the Sala case, he has not done so, posssibly because to do so would be to reveal that he was acting for Nantes regarding transporting Sala back over to us. Just why would he not reveal all otherwise. Allan you are right, the Sala case is not costing City or Tan, anything it is no win no fee.
Also regarding other fees spent on litigation, in the city accounts it only shows one only, all the rest Tan has paid for, added to the debt that we owe him!

Nobody except m'learned friends really know which way this will go. It's complicated as also in multiple country legislation but the fact that we received £12M as a non refundable forward payment against possible damages indicates that we have a reasonable chance of a partial % win of our total claim.

And to be clear, even if we do win and things are going well on the field, I still want Tan gone and if the settlement hastens that then so be it.

At the exact time of the crash, could he have started a game for Cardiff…. My understanding is he couldn’t have because he wasn’t correctly registered…

At the exact time of the crash, could he have started a game for Cardiff…. My understanding is he couldn’t have because he wasn’t correctly registered…

He wasn’t registered for the Premier League.
City’s Secretary messed the paper work up.


But he was registered as a Cardiff City player

The main case now is about FC Nantes having a degree (large/small/or none) of liability as they were the ones paying the discredited agents who organised the transport.

Surely people can see that as an arguable point ?

Cardiff didn’t employ McKay and as a result of McKay’s negligence (whom FC Nantes paid) they lost £15m on a player that never arrived.

How can anyone looking at this with an open mind not see that there is a case to be answered here ? Now that doesn’t mean that we/Tan are sure to win that case but it clearly is a case that needs a decision on it.

We haven’t sold all of the potential settlement of the Sala case. Only a part of it.
Here’s an extract from the club statement from March this year.
The results for the year have benefitted from exceptional gains of £18.4m.

The main driver therein is the £12m receivable from the sale of a “percentage” share of the ultimate proceeds from a litigation claim made by the club.

The sum receivable is non-refundable and not dependant on the ultimate outcome of the litigation case itself.

massive really we've recieved the sala few ba k in this payment and the 5 million from the insurers, anything else now is a bonus

Must admit I hadn’t thought of it that way Wez. Yes, we’ve recouped c£17m. Fingers crossed now for a bonus payout

The main case now is about FC Nantes having a degree (large/small/or none) of liability as they were the ones paying the discredited agents who organised the transport.

Surely people can see that as an arguable point ?

Cardiff didn’t employ McKay and as a result of McKay’s negligence (whom FC Nantes paid) they lost £15m on a player that never arrived.

How can anyone looking at this with an open mind not see that there is a case to be answered here ? Now that doesn’t mean that we/Tan are sure to win that case but it clearly is a case that needs a decision on it.

Agree