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Bakedalasker wrote:My way of looking at this is Trump is trying to get a reaction out of Iran and it’s not going to happen. This will wxpose the all mouth no reaction that the Arab countries have shown over the decades.
This Arab pact is nothing without Saudi Arabia support. There is no love lost between Saudi and Iran and there is no war between Saudi and Isreal.
I now see a decline in tensions unless Putin steps in.
Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:11 pm
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Sun Jun 22, 2025 1:28 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Unfortunately if people expect peace now probably be disappointed as this as been going on since revolution in 70s
How long did it take to disengage from Iraq Afghanistan after usa involvement? Expect same in Iran get rid one mullah may have a worse one in his place... but nuclear arms in Iran is bad idea having said that...
Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:04 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Unfortunately if people expect peace now probably be disappointed as this as been going on since revolution in 70s
How long did it take to disengage from Iraq Afghanistan after usa involvement? Expect same in Iran get rid one mullah may have a worse one in his place... but nuclear arms in Iran is bad idea having said that...
This is in no way similar to Iraq.
I know the general feeling of the public is that we shouldn't have got involved in Iraq - I don't think that and I never will.
But I just can't see us getting involved in this.
Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:12 pm
Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Hopefully under trump they carry it through and complete what ever they plan is and don’t leave it half done and even worse than it is now. That regime really needs to be removed I do T there be to many tears shed.
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Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:00 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Hopefully under trump they carry it through and complete what ever they plan is and don’t leave it half done and even worse than it is now. That regime really needs to be removed I do T there be to many tears shed.
Remove regime and then what? nice leader who forgives Israel usa for blowing up their country? Look who's taken over Afghanistan after usa left it ......its far worse than previous regime let's hope its not a hardline mullah otherwise things won't change .... Israel still be laughing at everyone As know Netanyahu's poodle in use "trump" will keep terrorists at bay ..
Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:18 pm
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Jock wrote:Biden was up to his armpits with the American Military Industrial Complex and they love a war, looks like Trump is no different.
That said I don’t want Iran getting the bomb.
Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:29 pm
Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:39 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Hopefully under trump they carry it through and complete what ever they plan is and don’t leave it half done and even worse than it is now. That regime really needs to be removed I do T there be to many tears shed.
Remove regime and then what? nice leader who forgives Israel usa for blowing up their country? Look who's taken over Afghanistan after usa left it ......its far worse than previous regime let's hope its not a hardline mullah otherwise things won't change .... Israel still be laughing at everyone As know Netanyahu's poodle in use "trump" will keep terrorists at bay ..
Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:08 pm
Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Hopefully under trump they carry it through and complete what ever they plan is and don’t leave it half done and even worse than it is now. That regime really needs to be removed I do T there be to many tears shed.
Remove regime and then what? nice leader who forgives Israel usa for blowing up their country? Look who's taken over Afghanistan after usa left it ......its far worse than previous regime let's hope its not a hardline mullah otherwise things won't change .... Israel still be laughing at everyone As know Netanyahu's poodle in use "trump" will keep terrorists at bay ..
Like I said that they complete they plan what ever it may be. In no Middle East expert I like the rest 99% only know what we are spoon fed by the media. All I know is a lot of Iranians citizens really do admire the freedoms of the west especially America I would love Iran to be more like them.
The few Iranian s I have known will be happy the US are now involved. They know more than me.
For me I believe it’s the right thing to do , but at the same time if they stopped bombing that also wouldn’t disappoint me.
Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:15 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Hopefully under trump they carry it through and complete what ever they plan is and don’t leave it half done and even worse than it is now. That regime really needs to be removed I do T there be to many tears shed.
Remove regime and then what? nice leader who forgives Israel usa for blowing up their country? Look who's taken over Afghanistan after usa left it ......its far worse than previous regime let's hope its not a hardline mullah otherwise things won't change .... Israel still be laughing at everyone As know Netanyahu's poodle in use "trump" will keep terrorists at bay ..
Yep removing a regime at force has not worked of late.
The USA have realised occupying another country is not beneficial at all. Hence why Israel under the request of the USA have asked the Iranian people to rise up. The problem I see with that is if a revolution happens then the Iranian people will expect some support from Isreal/USA. Unfortunately the USA have bad form with that ask the Kurds.
Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:16 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Hopefully under trump they carry it through and complete what ever they plan is and don’t leave it half done and even worse than it is now. That regime really needs to be removed I do T there be to many tears shed.
Remove regime and then what? nice leader who forgives Israel usa for blowing up their country? Look who's taken over Afghanistan after usa left it ......its far worse than previous regime let's hope its not a hardline mullah otherwise things won't change .... Israel still be laughing at everyone As know Netanyahu's poodle in use "trump" will keep terrorists at bay ..
Like I said that they complete they plan what ever it may be. In no Middle East expert I like the rest 99% only know what we are spoon fed by the media. All I know is a lot of Iranians citizens really do admire the freedoms of the west especially America I would love Iran to be more like them.
The few Iranian s I have known will be happy the US are now involved. They know more than me.
For me I believe it’s the right thing to do , but at the same time if they stopped bombing that also wouldn’t disappoint me.
Yes all Arab nations love the western way until it interferes with their customs and way of life...
Iran shouldn't have nukes but it was trump who trashed the agreement that was working upto last time in office. .... no middle east involvement while I'm in office said trump as part of his election pledge? One common theme in Ukraine and gaza its trumps ability to encourage putin and Netanyahu to Carry on their attacks He's done sfa to stop them in fact he's positively encourage both to increase their destruction of both countries ... to Ukraine says give up your land....and in gaza let's build a holiday resort after we've sent 2m people to Africa like said He's an apology of a human being.
Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:20 pm
Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Hopefully under trump they carry it through and complete what ever they plan is and don’t leave it half done and even worse than it is now. That regime really needs to be removed I do T there be to many tears shed.
Remove regime and then what? nice leader who forgives Israel usa for blowing up their country? Look who's taken over Afghanistan after usa left it ......its far worse than previous regime let's hope its not a hardline mullah otherwise things won't change .... Israel still be laughing at everyone As know Netanyahu's poodle in use "trump" will keep terrorists at bay ..
Like I said that they complete they plan what ever it may be. In no Middle East expert I like the rest 99% only know what we are spoon fed by the media. All I know is a lot of Iranians citizens really do admire the freedoms of the west especially America I would love Iran to be more like them.
The few Iranian s I have known will be happy the US are now involved. They know more than me.
For me I believe it’s the right thing to do , but at the same time if they stopped bombing that also wouldn’t disappoint me.
Yes all Arab nations love the western way until it interferes with their customs and way of life...
Iran shouldn't have nukes but it was trump who trashed the agreement that was working upto last time in office. .... no middle east involvement while I'm in office said trump as part of his election pledge? One common theme in Ukraine and gaza its trumps ability to encourage putin and Netanyahu to Carry on their attacks He's done sfa to stop them in fact he's positively encourage both to increase their destruction of both countries ... to Ukraine says give up your land....and in gaza let's build a holiday resort after we've sent 2m people to Africa like said He's an apology of a human being.
Well he can do what he wants. He was fairly and legally elected. Wheter you love him or hate him nothing you or I can do about it. So I won’t be losing sleep and worrying about his actions as there is nothing I can do from behind my screen on a footbal forum unfortunately.
Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:59 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Hopefully under trump they carry it through and complete what ever they plan is and don’t leave it half done and even worse than it is now. That regime really needs to be removed I do T there be to many tears shed.
Remove regime and then what? nice leader who forgives Israel usa for blowing up their country? Look who's taken over Afghanistan after usa left it ......its far worse than previous regime let's hope its not a hardline mullah otherwise things won't change .... Israel still be laughing at everyone As know Netanyahu's poodle in use "trump" will keep terrorists at bay ..
Like I said that they complete they plan what ever it may be. In no Middle East expert I like the rest 99% only know what we are spoon fed by the media. All I know is a lot of Iranians citizens really do admire the freedoms of the west especially America I would love Iran to be more like them.
The few Iranian s I have known will be happy the US are now involved. They know more than me.
For me I believe it’s the right thing to do , but at the same time if they stopped bombing that also wouldn’t disappoint me.
Yes all Arab nations love the western way until it interferes with their customs and way of life...
Iran shouldn't have nukes but it was trump who trashed the agreement that was working upto last time in office. .... no middle east involvement while I'm in office said trump as part of his election pledge? One common theme in Ukraine and gaza its trumps ability to encourage putin and Netanyahu to Carry on their attacks He's done sfa to stop them in fact he's positively encourage both to increase their destruction of both countries ... to Ukraine says give up your land....and in gaza let's build a holiday resort after we've sent 2m people to Africa like said He's an apology of a human being.
Well he can do what he wants. He was fairly and legally elected. Wheter you love him or hate him nothing you or I can do about it. So I won’t be losing sleep and worrying about his actions as there is nothing I can do from behind my screen on a footbal forum unfortunately.
He's doing what he wants because he's riding roughshod over the American constitution and bullying staff like his advisor he slapped down for going against him..... lot of his staff have no experience of area they run they're just yes people
Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:30 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Jock wrote:Biden was up to his armpits with the American Military Industrial Complex and they love a war, looks like Trump is no different.
That said I don’t want Iran getting the bomb.
All Biden did was give up ground back to the enemy aka Afghan back to the Taleban. I doubt that would have happened under Trump.
I think time will tell if Biden was right or not. I certainly don’t think there will be a takeover now.
Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:35 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Hopefully under trump they carry it through and complete what ever they plan is and don’t leave it half done and even worse than it is now. That regime really needs to be removed I do T there be to many tears shed.
Remove regime and then what? nice leader who forgives Israel usa for blowing up their country? Look who's taken over Afghanistan after usa left it ......its far worse than previous regime let's hope its not a hardline mullah otherwise things won't change .... Israel still be laughing at everyone As know Netanyahu's poodle in use "trump" will keep terrorists at bay ..
Like I said that they complete they plan what ever it may be. In no Middle East expert I like the rest 99% only know what we are spoon fed by the media. All I know is a lot of Iranians citizens really do admire the freedoms of the west especially America I would love Iran to be more like them.
The few Iranian s I have known will be happy the US are now involved. They know more than me.
For me I believe it’s the right thing to do , but at the same time if they stopped bombing that also wouldn’t disappoint me.
Yes all Arab nations love the western way until it interferes with their customs and way of life...
Iran shouldn't have nukes but it was trump who trashed the agreement that was working upto last time in office. .... no middle east involvement while I'm in office said trump as part of his election pledge? One common theme in Ukraine and gaza its trumps ability to encourage putin and Netanyahu to Carry on their attacks He's done sfa to stop them in fact he's positively encourage both to increase their destruction of both countries ... to Ukraine says give up your land....and in gaza let's build a holiday resort after we've sent 2m people to Africa like said He's an apology of a human being.
Well he can do what he wants. He was fairly and legally elected. Wheter you love him or hate him nothing you or I can do about it. So I won’t be losing sleep and worrying about his actions as there is nothing I can do from behind my screen on a footbal forum unfortunately.
He's doing what he wants because he's riding roughshod over the American constitution and bullying staff like his advisor he slapped down for going against him..... lot of his staff have no experience of area they run they're just yes people
Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:53 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Hopefully under trump they carry it through and complete what ever they plan is and don’t leave it half done and even worse than it is now. That regime really needs to be removed I do T there be to many tears shed.
Remove regime and then what? nice leader who forgives Israel usa for blowing up their country? Look who's taken over Afghanistan after usa left it ......its far worse than previous regime let's hope its not a hardline mullah otherwise things won't change .... Israel still be laughing at everyone As know Netanyahu's poodle in use "trump" will keep terrorists at bay ..
Yep removing a regime at force has not worked of late.
The USA have realised occupying another country is not beneficial at all. Hence why Israel under the request of the USA have asked the Iranian people to rise up. The problem I see with that is if a revolution happens then the Iranian people will expect some support from Isreal/USA. Unfortunately the USA have bad form with that ask the Kurds.
What you say is the problem removing one regime when there is no natural successor is asking for trouble a power vacume or hardline mullah taking over but Israel don't give a fck as good old usa will keep them at bay there are some good analyst of what could happen and they're not positive that's for sure... Mark Austin sky news is good read ..
Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:06 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Hopefully under trump they carry it through and complete what ever they plan is and don’t leave it half done and even worse than it is now. That regime really needs to be removed I do T there be to many tears shed.
Remove regime and then what? nice leader who forgives Israel usa for blowing up their country? Look who's taken over Afghanistan after usa left it ......its far worse than previous regime let's hope its not a hardline mullah otherwise things won't change .... Israel still be laughing at everyone As know Netanyahu's poodle in use "trump" will keep terrorists at bay ..
Yep removing a regime at force has not worked of late.
The USA have realised occupying another country is not beneficial at all. Hence why Israel under the request of the USA have asked the Iranian people to rise up. The problem I see with that is if a revolution happens then the Iranian people will expect some support from Isreal/USA. Unfortunately the USA have bad form with that ask the Kurds.
What you say is the problem removing one regime when there is no natural successor is asking for trouble a power vacume or hardline mullah taking over but Israel don't give a fck as good old usa will keep them at bay there are some good analyst of what could happen and they're not positive that's for sure... Mark Austin sky news is good read ..
Usually the West have someone ready to take over. This has not worked of late.
Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:14 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Hopefully under trump they carry it through and complete what ever they plan is and don’t leave it half done and even worse than it is now. That regime really needs to be removed I do T there be to many tears shed.
Remove regime and then what? nice leader who forgives Israel usa for blowing up their country? Look who's taken over Afghanistan after usa left it ......its far worse than previous regime let's hope its not a hardline mullah otherwise things won't change .... Israel still be laughing at everyone As know Netanyahu's poodle in use "trump" will keep terrorists at bay ..
Yep removing a regime at force has not worked of late.
The USA have realised occupying another country is not beneficial at all. Hence why Israel under the request of the USA have asked the Iranian people to rise up. The problem I see with that is if a revolution happens then the Iranian people will expect some support from Isreal/USA. Unfortunately the USA have bad form with that ask the Kurds.
What you say is the problem removing one regime when there is no natural successor is asking for trouble a power vacume or hardline mullah taking over but Israel don't give a fck as good old usa will keep them at bay there are some good analyst of what could happen and they're not positive that's for sure... Mark Austin sky news is good read ..
Usually the West have someone ready to take over. This has not worked of late.
No such plan for Iran ....no official plan for gaza either a don't think they're bothered leave it upto others to sort out .....if get that far...
Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:37 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Jock wrote:Biden was up to his armpits with the American Military Industrial Complex and they love a war, looks like Trump is no different.
That said I don’t want Iran getting the bomb.
All Biden did was give up ground back to the enemy aka Afghan back to the Taleban. I doubt that would have happened under Trump.
I think time will tell if Biden was right or not. I certainly don’t think there will be a takeover now.
Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:13 pm
M4 Exile wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Jock wrote:Biden was up to his armpits with the American Military Industrial Complex and they love a war, looks like Trump is no different.
That said I don’t want Iran getting the bomb.
All Biden did was give up ground back to the enemy aka Afghan back to the Taleban. I doubt that would have happened under Trump.
I think time will tell if Biden was right or not. I certainly don’t think there will be a takeover now.
The Afghanistan withdrawal was all trump lol. Biden just didn’t pull out of Trump’s deal and was left with his mess
Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:49 pm
maccydee wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:My way of looking at this is Trump is trying to get a reaction out of Iran and it’s not going to happen. This will wxpose the all mouth no reaction that the Arab countries have shown over the decades.
This Arab pact is nothing without Saudi Arabia support. There is no love lost between Saudi and Iran and there is no war between Saudi and Isreal.
I now see a decline in tensions unless Putin steps in.
Agree. No country in the Middle East wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon. No country in the world should want that either.