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I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:24 am

Horvath, Turnbull, Willock and Ng have all asked to leave.


Nothing to do with Murphy’s arrival.

To do with us being relegated to League 1 ( Div 3 ).
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Re: I dont know true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:34 am

Cheers lads! You were partly responsible for our arrival in League 1.....

Re: I dont know true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:36 am

It's only really Turnbull that would be a loss.

Ng fell off massively last season and I actually think Kpakio will be the better option the way that BBM will most likely set us up.

Re: I dont know true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:36 am

Two (maybe three) will not have any suitors higher than league one I would imagine.

Re: I dont know true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:41 am

It wouldn’t surprise me if it was true.

Howarth is ok but nothing special and Turnball was hugely disappointing but was hoping he would improve under a new manager.

Apparently there’s no pressure to sell but if someone wants to leave because their hearts not in it or they feel they’re to good then let them go …

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:42 am

Just agree to tear up their contracts. Leyton them back themselves to get championship contracts

Re: I dont know true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:43 am

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:It wouldn’t surprise me if it was true.

Howarth is ok but nothing special and Turnball was hugely disappointing but was hoping he would improve under a new manager.

Apparently there’s no pressure to sell but if someone wants to leave because their hearts not in it or they feel they’re to good then let them go …



I believe it’s true.

And I totally agree with you, let them go if their hearts are not with Cardiff City and for me they are not to good for us, they took us down.

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:44 am

Get them gone. Upgrade in character and desire, please.

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:50 am

If true they've some cheek. Turnball spent half the season injured and when he played he looked lost, another one that showed very little fight when needed. Ng, totally useless the whole season, looked as if he didn't give a sh*t. To be fair none of them would be a miss.

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:50 am

Don't want players who don't want to stay so let them go - as long as other clubs make the right offers for them.

Not that bothered about the others but Turnbull could be a miss.

Ng has been great for us but last season he was one of the worst. Don't see how he fits into this system either.

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:52 am

Only 1 I would be disappointed with leaving would be turnbull as I think he has the attributes to do well in a BBM team

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:52 am

Not going to lose any sleep over that.
Perry has been a great servant, and albeit not his best football last season, he deserves to play in the Championship.
The other 3 on the other hand... couldn't care less :wave:

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:54 am

No point ripping into them, until it's confirmed.

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:55 am

If true then adios!

All very underwhelming in our relegation anniversary year, contributed in us being the worst team in the division

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:19 am

They all think they will thrive at others clubs,NOT..looking at the active, mobile 4 I wouldn't keep them anyways, crap and burnt out.

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:27 am

Most probably won't to move on because their wages have dropped due to relegation clauses.

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:28 am

If true all thinking they are better than they are need a reality check

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:34 am

This would save around £75,000 off the weekly wage bill - and I suspect better replacements could be found.

As their contracts end in 2027 we could demand a fee for each.

I find it particularly gruelling that players can be part of the reason to get us relegated and then believe they are too good to play for us. This is not the type of character we need playing for us.

Out of those

Perry Ng - (£3m) - I think can be replaced by Kpakio as well as Rinamhota
Horvath - (£1.2m) - I would like to see someone like Danny Ward instead
Willock - (£1.6m) - For me doesn't set the world alight. We have replacements already
Turnbull - (£2.5m) - Celtic to Division3 in 12 months. I get it. And we will be able to replace him.

Figures in brackets are the value from transfermkt.

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:37 am

Paul Keevil wrote:This would save around £75,000 off the weekly wage bill - and I suspect better replacements could be found.

As their contracts end in 2027 we could demand a fee for each.

I find it particularly gruelling that players can be part of the reason to get us relegated and then believe they are too good to play for us. This is not the type of character we need playing for us.

Out of those

Perry Ng - (£3m) - I think can be replaced by Kpakio as well as Rinamhota
Horvath - (£1.2m) - I would like to see someone like Danny Ward instead
Willock - (£1.6m) - For me doesn't set the world alight. We have replacements already
Turnbull - (£2.5m) - Celtic to Division3 in 12 months. I get it. And we will be able to replace him.

Figures in brackets are the value from transfermkt.


I definitely don’t want to see Danny Ward here.

He’s not played a large amount of football recently and when he has, he’s been horrific.

He would also command decent wages I would imagine.

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:42 am

Fair enough let them go, we need players that want to be here, and about time too. We need players that want to achieve the last five years I have t seen that from some of them.

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:04 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Horvath, Turnbull, Willock and Ng have all asked to leave.


Nothing to do with Murphy’s arrival.

To do with us being relegated to League 1 ( Div 3 ).



Pre-empting player movements before the new manager's consultation and strategic outline would be plain dull.

A season challenging at the top of the league offers immense enjoyment and can undoubtedly inspire players to elevate their game.

However, there's a potential silver lining: this scenario could facilitate offloading high-wage players and those with reported attitude issues. This would, in turn, empower BBM to build his squad with players specifically tailored to his demands.

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:13 pm

All of them were piss poor last season,get rid.

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:27 pm

Disappointed in Turnbull particularly as I reckon he'd fit in with the proposed brand of football.
Makes me sick though that there's no loyalty at all in the game - You took us down so at least have a go at getting us back up!
Good riddance if they go. As our new coach has hinted at, he wants players who bleed blue. :bluescarf:

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:34 pm

I think people are going to be a bit caught off guard by how many actually end up leaving considering the club is saying it won’t be many.

I can’t see any of those listed staying, in addition to Chambers, Daland, O’Dowda, Robinson and possibly Robertson, Salech and Colwill dependant on offers.

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:39 pm

If true let them go we need a clear out ,and bring players that want to be here. Shocking attitude if true that we don’t need here.

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:43 pm

I wouldn't miss any of those listed in the opening post. Willock was useless last season and Turnbull wouldn't even work up a sweat if he was playing in this weather today.

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:45 pm

The one I think we will miss is NG if he goes. He was quite erratic last season, making a number of mistakes, but the previous two seasons, he was excellent. I think, the way we set up last season left him very vulnerable, and in my opinion he was slated unfairly by the supporters. Rinamhota was certainly no better than him, getting caught out of position way too often, but he got praise even when he didn’t play well. I agree that Kpakio is a great prospect and eventually will the automatic choice for right back. NG is a very versatile player covering full back and centre back, and I think would be a very good right midfielder.

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:46 pm

I understand their reasons. £300K a year is an amazing salary, but £500k is even better, over three years £600k. Money talks.

IMO this helps the reset. We have recruited some dogs, Perry isn't in that category, but probably needs a new scene as well

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:51 pm

The one I think we will miss is NG if he goes. He was quite erratic last season, making a number of mistakes, but the previous two seasons, he was excellent. I think, the way we set up last season left him very vulnerable, and in my opinion he was slated unfairly by the supporters. Rinamhota was certainly no better than him, getting caught out of position way too often, but he got praise even when he didn’t play well. I agree that Kpakio is a great prospect and eventually will the automatic choice for right back. NG is a very versatile player covering full back and centre back, and I think would be a very good right midfielder.

Re: I dont know how true this is?

Fri Jun 20, 2025 1:08 pm

Let's not get ahead of ourselves – it might not even be true. And even if it is, whether they go or stay is completely up to us; they'll only leave if it suits the club. Plus, once they actually talk to BBM, they might decide they want to stick around after all.

So, let's just hold off and see what happens and what the team looks like when the season kicks off, as i've said previously it might just suit us to move a few anyway.