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Alright, I'm fully prepared to get negative responses to this (maybe even hate) - including from posters I get on with.

But some people's view of football is not how football is today.

I once foolishly said Riza could take us to the PL after a few too many. Totally wrong about that and some will use that as a reason to say I'm wrong here. But I'm not. Unlike then, I've given this post a lot of thought because it's a risk.

I believe Brian Barry-Murphy's view of football is exactly the way a team targeting top two should play.

It's keeping possession. It's aggressive. It's progressive. And he's highly rated.

Other clubs wanted him, didn't get him. Leicester wanted him to stay on their coaching team, he told them he wanted this job.

All this crap about Rochdale fans' views is nonsense. He left there over four years ago and has acknowledged he made mistakes - but also that he's learned from them.

There are some fans who think the Warnock way is the guide to promotion. That was true ten years ago, but it's not now. It simply does not work which is why he failed at Middlesbrough and Aberdeen.

The last three League One winning managers were Chris Davies, John Mousinho and Steven Schumacher. All had no previous experience. All played possession based football.

I would say you can't argue with that, but some will.

So what is it that makes some think the Warnock style works? My only thought is that they're living in the past and think football in 2025 is the same as football 2015. It just isn't.

This will no doubt be controversial but I also have a strongly held belief now that there are people on here who are judging BBM negatively not because of him, but because of Tan.

Their hatred of Tan has caused them to not be able to be pleased with any appointment he makes unless maybe it's a "local boy" - Ramsey or Jones for example.

I don't like Tan and I despise what he's done to the club.

But I disregard that when it comes to the new manager.

I read up on him, I listen to him and I study him. I look at the data.

So there you are.

Despite him not being my first choice, this is why I believe BBM is the best possible appointment for us.

I agree with you, wasn't this the Malky way.

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head.

People develop over time, and four years is a long time in football.

I also believe that the anger towards Tan is having a knock on effect when it comes to things. Not just BBM.

Sure, people are saying ‘yes man, cheap option’ bla bla, but that is solely because Tan made the decision to go with BBM.

Would it have been said if Dalman was vocal that BBM was his choice? I’m not so sure.

We then have the ‘retained list not out yet, what a crap club’ posts - when the retained list is out in the same week every year. Again an opportunity to go against Tan.

I dislike Tan as much as any City fan - but what I won’t do is just pick holes and try to link it to Tan when there is no need.

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head.

People develop over time, and four years is a long time in football.

I also believe that the anger towards Tan is having a knock on effect when it comes to things. Not just BBM.

Sure, people are saying ‘yes man, cheap option’ bla bla, but that is solely because Tan made the decision to go with BBM.

Would it have been said if Dalman was vocal that BBM was his choice? I’m not so sure.

We then have the ‘retained list not out yet, what a crap club’ posts - when the retained list is out in the same week every year. Again an opportunity to go against Tan.

I dislike Tan as much as any City fan - but what I won’t do is just pick holes and try to link it to Tan when there is no need.

Spot on.

The whole thing about BBM being the cheap option is total nonsense, we paid compensation for him


Buckingham - out of work

Ramsey - no compensation

Evatt - out of work

And so on....

I'll judge him on the games we play & the results we get rather than the internet naysayers or whatever the opposite of naysayers is. I am in the "I don't know enough either way" camp & never had a favourite that I wanted to take charge.

I'll judge him on the games we play & the results we get rather than the internet naysayers or whatever the opposite of naysayers is. I am in the "I don't know enough either way" camp & never had a favourite that I wanted to take charge.

That's fine.

It's the morons calling him "another Riza", "cheap option" etc.

They haven't even bothered to look into him at all and are rushing to find the negatives.

All because Tan is the owner and they refuse to back any of his managers.

I'll judge him on the games we play & the results we get rather than the internet naysayers or whatever the opposite of naysayers is. I am in the "I don't know enough either way" camp & never had a favourite that I wanted to take charge.

That's fine.

It's the morons calling him "another Riza", "cheap option" etc.

They haven't even bothered to look into him at all and are rushing to find the negatives.

All because Tan is the owner and they refuse to back any of his managers.

Yeah I agree with that and most of what you said in the OP.

I'll judge him on the games we play & the results we get rather than the internet naysayers or whatever the opposite of naysayers is. I am in the "I don't know enough either way" camp & never had a favourite that I wanted to take charge.

Well Said and that’s more realistic.

To many getting carried away

I'll judge him on the games we play & the results we get rather than the internet naysayers or whatever the opposite of naysayers is. I am in the "I don't know enough either way" camp & never had a favourite that I wanted to take charge.

Well Said and that’s more realistic.

To many getting carried away

Not talking about you Annis, I know for a fact that you do give managers a real chance.

But others desperately looking to slam him already, bringing up stuff from four years ago which aren't even relevant now.

I listen to experts on this league like NTT20, they call it a brilliant appointment.

All this crap about needing experience is a total bullshit, last three League One winning managers were in their first job.

Some fans need to wake up and see this is 2025 and football has changed.

Sick to death of coming on here and seeing people run down BBM, who has a good reputation, before he's even got going. So from now on I will makes posts like this to balance things out - even if others want to keep their minds closed.

I believe the “proof will be in the pudding” about BBM and how successful he will be. I don’t think you can be massively optimistic or pessimistic at this point as we don’t know enough about him and need to give the man a fair chance.

Yes he apparently wants his teams to play a certain way and he was also trusted with the elite development squad at Man City. However my concern is that our players may not be good enough to play the type of football that BBM wants and also we don’t have the quality of Cole Palmer, Romeo Lavia and Oscar Bobb as BBM had at Man City.

For BBM to be successful, it may take time, for the right players to come in and the style of play to be implemented. If that means a season or 2 in League 1 will he be given that time by the hierarchy and also some supporters?

My overall view is that BBM is a positive appointment and if he has the potential, we need to stick with him even if it doesn’t mean promotion next season. I would much rather that and eventually go up with a good squad playing a good style of football than going up next season to just struggle back in the Championship.

Every time I watch Keiffer Moore being ref'd I realize the referees have changed the laws of the game. Contact is now decided by intent rather than actual contact. Physicality is now speed rather than strength.

We have a chance to reset, but playing a passive possession game got us relegated. We went from a physical team to L1 over three years because we played the game of a decade earlier, imitation tika-taka.

The championship clubs playing Btec Premier League football have been spanked. Luton, keeping it physical, did better than Kompany's far more expensive footballing team.

I hope BBM is at the cutting edge, because you need to be a leader rather than a follower.

I love a winger beating his man, but have no idea what to expect.

But for all the fancy Dan tactics, if you can't stop a Sean Morrison/Aiden Flint types at corners, you have to score at least three.

I'd say it's a great opportunity for BBM as we have a good squad for this level, its a good foundation for him to start with, plus with the younger players coming through. I like what I've read about him and his tv interview was good, he should have decent contacts also. Looking forward to seeing our style of football next season also. This feels like it could be a one step back two steps forward situation with the timing right for both club and manager. Let's hope.

Alright, I'm fully prepared to get negative responses to this (maybe even hate) - including from posters I get on with.

But some people's view of football is not how football is today.



I once foolishly said Riza could take us to the PL after a few too many. Totally wrong about that and some will use that as a reason to say I'm wrong here. But I'm not. Unlike then, I've given this post a lot of thought because it's a risk.

I believe Brian Barry-Murphy's view of football is exactly the way a team targeting top two should play.

It's keeping possession. It's aggressive. It's progressive. And he's highly rated.

Other clubs wanted him, didn't get him. Leicester wanted him to stay on their coaching team, he told them he wanted this job.

All this crap about Rochdale fans' views is nonsense. He left there over four years ago and has acknowledged he made mistakes - but also that he's learned from them.

There are some fans who think the Warnock way is the guide to promotion. That was true ten years ago, but it's not now. It simply does not work which is why he failed at Middlesbrough and Aberdeen.

The last three League One winning managers were Chris Davies, John Mousinho and Steven Schumacher. All had no previous experience. All played possession based football.

I would say you can't argue with that, but some will.

So what is it that makes some think the Warnock style works? My only thought is that they're living in the past and think football in 2025 is the same as football 2015. It just isn't.

This will no doubt be controversial but I also have a strongly held belief now that there are people on here who are judging BBM negatively not because of him, but because of Tan.

Their hatred of Tan has caused them to not be able to be pleased with any appointment he makes unless maybe it's a "local boy" - Ramsey or Jones for example.

I don't like Tan and I despise what he's done to the club.

But I disregard that when it comes to the new manager.

I read up on him, I listen to him and I study him. I look at the data.

So there you are.

Despite him not being my first choice, this is why I believe BBM is the best possible appointment for us.

Honest question Worcester, would you have fully supported Nathan Jones as manager?? I know you weren't keen on him . Im looking forward to the new season, yes it's a drop in division but maybe it's a reset we need.

I agree with you, wasn't this the Malky way.

The Malky way? Attacking football? Possession football?

Alright, I'm fully prepared to get negative responses to this (maybe even hate) - including from posters I get on with.

But some people's view of football is not how football is today.



I once foolishly said Riza could take us to the PL after a few too many. Totally wrong about that and some will use that as a reason to say I'm wrong here. But I'm not. Unlike then, I've given this post a lot of thought because it's a risk.

I believe Brian Barry-Murphy's view of football is exactly the way a team targeting top two should play.

It's keeping possession. It's aggressive. It's progressive. And he's highly rated.

Other clubs wanted him, didn't get him. Leicester wanted him to stay on their coaching team, he told them he wanted this job.

All this crap about Rochdale fans' views is nonsense. He left there over four years ago and has acknowledged he made mistakes - but also that he's learned from them.

There are some fans who think the Warnock way is the guide to promotion. That was true ten years ago, but it's not now. It simply does not work which is why he failed at Middlesbrough and Aberdeen.

The last three League One winning managers were Chris Davies, John Mousinho and Steven Schumacher. All had no previous experience. All played possession based football.

I would say you can't argue with that, but some will.

So what is it that makes some think the Warnock style works? My only thought is that they're living in the past and think football in 2025 is the same as football 2015. It just isn't.

This will no doubt be controversial but I also have a strongly held belief now that there are people on here who are judging BBM negatively not because of him, but because of Tan.

Their hatred of Tan has caused them to not be able to be pleased with any appointment he makes unless maybe it's a "local boy" - Ramsey or Jones for example.

I don't like Tan and I despise what he's done to the club.

But I disregard that when it comes to the new manager.

I read up on him, I listen to him and I study him. I look at the data.

So there you are.

Despite him not being my first choice, this is why I believe BBM is the best possible appointment for us.

Honest question Worcester, would you have fully supported Nathan Jones as manager?? I know you weren't keen on him . Im looking forward to the new season, yes it's a drop in division but maybe it's a reset we need.

I would, even though I wouldn't have supported the idea. But I would give him my full backing.

Like I gave my backing to Morison, Riza, Mick etc....

I don't believe in slamming a manager or making thinly veiled digs before they've even got going.

The fact that I backed Riza and even tried to build him up is used against me on here. I got so much abuse sent to me privately that I nearly decided to stop being a moderator.

Part of me thinks I should make that decision now.



But I will back every manager and give them a fair chance. I have done so with some terrible managers but I really believe BBM will turn out to be a great appointment.

I'll judge him on the games we play & the results we get rather than the internet naysayers or whatever the opposite of naysayers is. I am in the "I don't know enough either way" camp & never had a favourite that I wanted to take charge.

That's fine.

It's the morons calling him "another Riza", "cheap option" etc.

They haven't even bothered to look into him at all and are rushing to find the negatives.

All because Tan is the owner and they refuse to back any of his managers.

Good OP Worcester as you also say, some don’t bother searching
Sometimes on here it’s like being in the queue at Dorothy’s at 3 in the morning. Where I’ve often picked up some quality info on the workings of the club

Given the appointment of BBM and all the previous criticism of the Board, and in particular Vincent Tan perhaps there is an opportunity to have another reset and everyone in the Club pull together. The dislike of Vincent Tan is deep rooted and not an easy one to forgive and forget but maybe the time is now. The unfortunate change to red has to many been unacceptable but that was reversed and since then he has financially kept the Club afloat. Maybe it is time to say enough is enough and move on and let’s focus on the football and hopefully turn the ship around under the new head coach.

Chin up Ned it's all about opinions I fully accept yours and mostly agree I disagreed when you thought Riza would take us up but hey ho you had a bout of positivity nothing wrong with that I have supported city since 1965 , I never know whats coming next but we have to support BBM and hope gir the best... keep going Ned I Enjoy your posts

Given the appointment of BBM and all the previous criticism of the Board, and in particular Vincent Tan perhaps there is an opportunity to have another reset and everyone in the Club pull together. The dislike of Vincent Tan is deep rooted and not an easy one to forgive and forget but maybe the time is now. The unfortunate change to red has to many been unacceptable but that was reversed and since then he has financially kept the Club afloat. Maybe it is time to say enough is enough and move on and let’s focus on the football and hopefully turn the ship around under the new head coach.

I really wish the fans would rally around this manager. Because the neutrals, including NTT20 (who are highly rated across the UK for their knowledge), also believe this is a great appointment.

Let's see where we are after 15 games. I don't believe in the players we have right now. Too many soft touches who don't like getting their kit dirty or hair out of place.

After the past few seasons I would just like to see positive, front foot attacking football that is entertaining.

Looking forward to visiting new grounds.

I agree with you, wasn't this the Malky way.

The Malky way? Attacking football? Possession football?

We were miles ahead at the top of the league by Christmas with attacking football.

Alright, I'm fully prepared to get negative responses to this (maybe even hate) - including from posters I get on with.

But some people's view of football is not how football is today.



I once foolishly said Riza could take us to the PL after a few too many. Totally wrong about that and some will use that as a reason to say I'm wrong here. But I'm not. Unlike then, I've given this post a lot of thought because it's a risk.

I believe Brian Barry-Murphy's view of football is exactly the way a team targeting top two should play.

It's keeping possession. It's aggressive. It's progressive. And he's highly rated.

Other clubs wanted him, didn't get him. Leicester wanted him to stay on their coaching team, he told them he wanted this job.

All this crap about Rochdale fans' views is nonsense. He left there over four years ago and has acknowledged he made mistakes - but also that he's learned from them.

There are some fans who think the Warnock way is the guide to promotion. That was true ten years ago, but it's not now. It simply does not work which is why he failed at Middlesbrough and Aberdeen.

The last three League One winning managers were Chris Davies, John Mousinho and Steven Schumacher. All had no previous experience. All played possession based football.

I would say you can't argue with that, but some will.

So what is it that makes some think the Warnock style works? My only thought is that they're living in the past and think football in 2025 is the same as football 2015. It just isn't.

This will no doubt be controversial but I also have a strongly held belief now that there are people on here who are judging BBM negatively not because of him, but because of Tan.

Their hatred of Tan has caused them to not be able to be pleased with any appointment he makes unless maybe it's a "local boy" - Ramsey or Jones for example.

I don't like Tan and I despise what he's done to the club.

But I disregard that when it comes to the new manager.

I read up on him, I listen to him and I study him. I look at the data.

So there you are.

Despite him not being my first choice, this is why I believe BBM is the best possible appointment for us.

Honest question Worcester, would you have fully supported Nathan Jones as manager?? I know you weren't keen on him . Im looking forward to the new season, yes it's a drop in division but maybe it's a reset we need.

I would, even though I wouldn't have supported the idea. But I would give him my full backing.

Like I gave my backing to Morison, Riza, Mick etc....

I don't believe in slamming a manager or making thinly veiled digs before they've even got going.

The fact that I backed Riza and even tried to build him up is used against me on here. I got so much abuse sent to me privately that I nearly decided to stop being a moderator.

Part of me thinks I should make that decision now.



But I will back every manager and give them a fair chance. I have done so with some terrible managers but I really believe BBM will turn out to be a great appointment.

Some fair points there. Wernt a pop at you just a genuine question. We all have different views that whole point of a forum. I'm genuinely looking forward to the season, don't know much about BBM but he come across well .

Alright, I'm fully prepared to get negative responses to this (maybe even hate) - including from posters I get on with.

But some people's view of football is not how football is today.



I once foolishly said Riza could take us to the PL after a few too many. Totally wrong about that and some will use that as a reason to say I'm wrong here. But I'm not. Unlike then, I've given this post a lot of thought because it's a risk.

I believe Brian Barry-Murphy's view of football is exactly the way a team targeting top two should play.

It's keeping possession. It's aggressive. It's progressive. And he's highly rated.

Other clubs wanted him, didn't get him. Leicester wanted him to stay on their coaching team, he told them he wanted this job.

All this crap about Rochdale fans' views is nonsense. He left there over four years ago and has acknowledged he made mistakes - but also that he's learned from them.

There are some fans who think the Warnock way is the guide to promotion. That was true ten years ago, but it's not now. It simply does not work which is why he failed at Middlesbrough and Aberdeen.

The last three League One winning managers were Chris Davies, John Mousinho and Steven Schumacher. All had no previous experience. All played possession based football.

I would say you can't argue with that, but some will.

So what is it that makes some think the Warnock style works? My only thought is that they're living in the past and think football in 2025 is the same as football 2015. It just isn't.

This will no doubt be controversial but I also have a strongly held belief now that there are people on here who are judging BBM negatively not because of him, but because of Tan.

Their hatred of Tan has caused them to not be able to be pleased with any appointment he makes unless maybe it's a "local boy" - Ramsey or Jones for example.

I don't like Tan and I despise what he's done to the club.

But I disregard that when it comes to the new manager.

I read up on him, I listen to him and I study him. I look at the data.

So there you are.

Despite him not being my first choice, this is why I believe BBM is the best possible appointment for us.

Honest question Worcester, would you have fully supported Nathan Jones as manager?? I know you weren't keen on him . Im looking forward to the new season, yes it's a drop in division but maybe it's a reset we need.

I would, even though I wouldn't have supported the idea. But I would give him my full backing.

Like I gave my backing to Morison, Riza, Mick etc....

I don't believe in slamming a manager or making thinly veiled digs before they've even got going.

The fact that I backed Riza and even tried to build him up is used against me on here. I got so much abuse sent to me privately that I nearly decided to stop being a moderator.

Part of me thinks I should make that decision now.



But I will back every manager and give them a fair chance. I have done so with some terrible managers but I really believe BBM will turn out to be a great appointment.

Some fair points there. Wernt a pop at you just a genuine question. We all have different views that whole point of a forum. I'm genuinely looking forward to the season, don't know much about BBM but he come across well .

I stand by fully what I've posted here.

I maintain that too many fans have their minds closed because their hatred of Tan has stopped them thinking clearly.

I believe time will prove that BBM is a great important.

I am delighted we finally have a manager that brings us into the 21st century.

Time to escape the dark ages.

Ned, I agree with with almost everything you have said here, and yes it can be tiresome reading on here sometimes.

I, like you have done my research regarding BBM and in theory it could be a great appointment, but my question and something I’m really not sure about is will it work in practice.

It takes skill to play a certain way and I’m concerned we don't have enough of that skill within the squad, so will Tan back him with more transfer money considering he paid compo for him as well as the 3 year contract, equally and I know he is bringing in an assistant however, have we got the skills needed in our coaching set up to implement the new style throughout the club as that is what it will need ?

I know only time will tell, and I hope he gets the time needed, but if we haven’t got the basic skills he will need, then I dont think the “12” games judgement could be enough, if on the other hand I’m underestimating the skills set of our squad then we could come out flying very early on.

Ned, I agree with with almost everything you have said here, and yes it can be tiresome reading on here sometimes.

I, like you have done my research regarding BBM and in theory it could be a great appointment, but my question and something I’m really not sure about is will it work in practice.

It takes skill to play a certain way and I’m concerned we don't have enough of that skill within the squad, so will Tan back him with more transfer money considering he paid compo for him as well as the 3 year contract, equally and I know he is bringing in an assistant however, have we got the skills needed in our coaching set up to implement the new style throughout the club as that is what it will need ?

I know only time will tell, and I hope he gets the time needed, but if we haven’t got the basic skills he will need, then I dont think the “12” games judgement could be enough, if on the other hand I’m underestimating the skills set of our squad then we could come out flying very early on.

I think we'll utilise the loan market a lot.

That will give him the players he needs.

I think the likes of Robertson, Salech, Lawlor, Kpakio and more can play in the way he wants. There will have to be additions though.

I don't think he would have taken the job if he didn't believe he could make his style work with this team. He could have stayed at Leicester or gone to Plymouth.

He knows this is his big chance. I expect it to work but if it doesn't, he'd struggle to get a manager's job again.

So he must really believe it will work - and so do I.

Excited for this season just for the style of play.

When was the last time Cardiff ever dominated a match and looked very attack minded?

The fans are used to dinosaur football, maybe expect it to be the norm. Whilst our closest rivals, Swansea, have been enjoying games where they score 3-4 goals on occasion and play good football.


It’s our time now, back the manager, let him change the philosophy on the field and off the field, and give something for us fans to be proud of.

Excited for this season just for the style of play.

When was the last time Cardiff ever dominated a match and looked very attack minded?

The fans are used to dinosaur football, maybe expect it to be the norm. Whilst our closest rivals, Swansea, have been enjoying games where they score 3-4 goals on occasion and play good football.


It’s our time now, back the manager, let him change the philosophy on the field and off the field, and give something for us fans to be proud of.

Agree.

Ned, I agree with with almost everything you have said here, and yes it can be tiresome reading on here sometimes.

I, like you have done my research regarding BBM and in theory it could be a great appointment, but my question and something I’m really not sure about is will it work in practice.

It takes skill to play a certain way and I’m concerned we don't have enough of that skill within the squad, so will Tan back him with more transfer money considering he paid compo for him as well as the 3 year contract, equally and I know he is bringing in an assistant however, have we got the skills needed in our coaching set up to implement the new style throughout the club as that is what it will need ?

I know only time will tell, and I hope he gets the time needed, but if we haven’t got the basic skills he will need, then I dont think the “12” games judgement could be enough, if on the other hand I’m underestimating the skills set of our squad then we could come out flying very early on.

I think we'll utilise the loan market a lot.

That will give him the players he needs.

I think the likes of Robertson, Salech, Lawlor, Kpakio and more can play in the way he wants. There will have to be additions though.

I don't think he would have taken the job if he didn't believe he could make his style work with this team. He could have stayed at Leicester or gone to Plymouth.

He knows this is his big chance. I expect it to work but if it doesn't, he'd struggle to get a manager's job again.

So he must really believe it will work - and so do I.

For me the club are the ones that need to prove themselves to the fans.

Tan has showed very little interest in us, when was the last time he came over? The other 2 have shown more interest in their other activities than us. As for the squad they gave up well before the last kick of the season. Then to rub salt into the wound they went on the piss the day we got relegated. The club as a whole is a mess and they deserve every criticism they get.

So where do we go from here. Personally I feel we should have gone for the experienced manager but we have not done that. We have gone for a coach which I think is a big risk. I’ve nothing against him for taking the opportunity and I hope he turns it around. However, the bottom line here is most of the fans have lost face in the regime and the ball is in its court to win that back from the fans. So don’t tell the fans to be positive because the regime that includes the board and the players have destroyed that. It’s down to them to prove themselves.

Ned, I agree with with almost everything you have said here, and yes it can be tiresome reading on here sometimes.

I, like you have done my research regarding BBM and in theory it could be a great appointment, but my question and something I’m really not sure about is will it work in practice.

It takes skill to play a certain way and I’m concerned we don't have enough of that skill within the squad, so will Tan back him with more transfer money considering he paid compo for him as well as the 3 year contract, equally and I know he is bringing in an assistant however, have we got the skills needed in our coaching set up to implement the new style throughout the club as that is what it will need ?

I know only time will tell, and I hope he gets the time needed, but if we haven’t got the basic skills he will need, then I dont think the “12” games judgement could be enough, if on the other hand I’m underestimating the skills set of our squad then we could come out flying very early on.

I think we'll utilise the loan market a lot.

That will give him the players he needs.

I think the likes of Robertson, Salech, Lawlor, Kpakio and more can play in the way he wants. There will have to be additions though.

I don't think he would have taken the job if he didn't believe he could make his style work with this team. He could have stayed at Leicester or gone to Plymouth.

He knows this is his big chance. I expect it to work but if it doesn't, he'd struggle to get a manager's job again.

So he must really believe it will work - and so do I.

For me the club are the ones that need to prove themselves to the fans.

Tan has showed very little interest in us, when was the last time he came over? The other 2 have shown more interest in their other activities than us. As for the squad they gave up well before the last kick of the season. Then to rub salt into the wound they went on the piss the day we got relegated. The club as a whole is a mess and they deserve every criticism they get.

So where do we go from here. Personally I feel we should have gone for the experienced manager but we have not done that. We have gone for a coach which I think is a big risk. I’ve nothing against him for taking the opportunity and I hope he turns it around. However, the bottom line here is most of the fans have lost face in the regime and the ball is in its court to win that back from the fans. So don’t tell the fans to be positive because the regime that includes the board and the players have destroyed that. It’s down to them to prove themselves.

Well I agree the board have to prove themselves.

Reading between the lines, it does appear BBM will get his own staff. Good start.

They also have to back him in the transfer market, even with loan fees. Man City aren't going to loan us players for free, even as a favour to BBM.

Said earlier that the experienced manager argument doesn't carry much weight because the last three League One winning managers were in their first job - Chris Davies, John Mousinho and Steven Schumacher.

What I'm really pissed off about is people not being happy about the appointment purely because they hate Tan.

There's nothing wrong with being against Tan, we all are.

But BBM comes with a high reputation. Disregard Tan, because it is all about supporting the team and manager/head coach.

It's also about having a manager that will play modern football which, not only gets us promoted, but puts us in a good place for Championship football if we go up.

I always said that a project was better than a short term fix so delighted with who's been appointed.

I do notice that social media is full of people pleased with this. For some reason, it's just on here where the negativity is still there.