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Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:00 pm

Ok, I've been hugely critical of Rubin Colwill. Some say overly critical.

Rubin is brilliant but there's no consistency.

But if anyone can get him to perform it's BBM.

His track record of improving players is known. He made the likes of Cole Palmer the player he is today. Also had a big impact on our own Alex Robertson.

If he gets consistency from Rubin, we'll probably be promoted.

But if he doesn't, I fear for Rubin's future.

That's if he doesn't leave obviously.

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:21 pm

In my opinion, no. BBM says he wants to play with aggression. I don’t see that in Rubin. The boy just doesn’t sprint. He needs to add work rate to his game.

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:35 pm

Here is a detailed look at Ruben's stats from the season just gone, I think a few people will be surprised at just how much running he puts in each game it's way above average in the championship

, most of his stats are above average, just needs to work on goals and chances created
https://fbref.com/en/players/f170b63e/s ... ing-Report

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:17 am

Or could say, is this the division for Rubin? Hopefully a bit of both. Hopefully this manager and a spell in league 1 will do him good. If he adds goals to his game and with that confidence, there's a different player. For me end product has always been a bit disappointing the shot or assist.

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:19 am

Or could say, is this the division for Rubin? Hopefully a bit of both. Hopefully this manager and a spell in league 1 will do him good. If he adds goals to his game and with that confidence, there's a different player. For me end product has always been a bit disappointing the shot or assist, decision making.

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:06 am

I would say yes Ned,

Due to being at Man City and younger players

I still stand by this Rubin is a top half at least Prem player.

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:56 am

Rubin is overrated he has skills I'm not sure what position Is his find the position for him maybe there will be a complete player in there he don't score enough goals he should be better in the air than he is he's a big lad and heading isn't great

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:20 am

If Colwill was the player most of us originally thought he was going to be He would have shown a lot more under previous managers Yes maybe the new manager may suit him more but unless he is a late developer then I doubt we will see a major improvement
Let’s face it he should really find Div 1 too easy for him at this stage of his career if he has anything about him

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:30 am

worcester_ccfc wrote:Ok, I've been hugely critical of Rubin Colwill. Some say overly critical.

Rubin is brilliant but there's no consistency.

But if anyone can get him to perform it's BBM.

His track record of improving players is known. He made the likes of Cole Palmer the player he is today. Also had a big impact on our own Alex Robertson.

If he gets consistency from Rubin, we'll probably be promoted.

But if he doesn't, I fear for Rubin's future.

That's if he doesn't leave obviously.


How about Joel, could this be his breakout year?

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:33 am

Forever Blue wrote:I would say yes Ned,

Due to being at Man City and younger players

I still stand by this Rubin is a top half at least Prem player.

In my opinion, Harry Wilson is a mid table prem player as an example yet light years ahead of Rubin. Even at Rubin's age Wilson was miles ahead in nearly every area other than physicality.

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:44 am

royalblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I would say yes Ned,

Due to being at Man City and younger players

I still stand by this Rubin is a top half at least Prem player.

In my opinion, Harry Wilson is a mid table prem player as an example yet light years ahead of Rubin. Even at Rubin's age Wilson was miles ahead in nearly every area other than physicality.

Harry Wilson was 23 when at Cardiff So same age Rubin is now I agree the Wilson was miles ahead at same age

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:02 am

Flashes of brilliance and has the skillset for sure but the stats don't lie. Very few goals or assists. I thought he went missing at the end of last season. Frustrating to watch on times.

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:17 am

Blue since 1981 wrote:Here is a detailed look at Ruben's stats from the season just gone, I think a few people will be surprised at just how much running he puts in each game it's way above average in the championship

, most of his stats are above average, just needs to work on goals and chances created
https://fbref.com/en/players/f170b63e/s ... ing-Report


I can’t find where it shows how much running he does? He carries the ball well but that’s completely different to work rate off the ball. In attack and defense without the ball he just comes across half hearted. He doesn’t make runs to receive the ball and he doesn’t chase people down. If he does get near the opposition there’s a half hearted attempt to block a pass/clearence. Just my opinion anyway.

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:34 am

I’ve noticed that most tall gangly forwards always look lazy for some reason?

They do put a shift in but look slow.

Remember kenwyn jones - looked lazy and disinterested but could certainly score.

Buy yes hope BBM uses him correctly and that goes for a lot of bulit and rizas out of best position players.

We got the players ( at the moment) but need to play in their best positions.

Got a good feeling about BBM IF he can get them to gel as a forward playing team.

:bluescarf: :bluebird:

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:38 am

He is too big to be a 10 and doesn't have a clue about being a 9. He can't do the 5m sprints. He can cover ground, but not those intense sprints. He is a skinny second-row player at his local rugby club, had he not played football.

He needs a coach to drill the fcuk out of him as a standard CM, with all the dirty stuff that goes with it. It would be interesting to see if BBM goes with a sitter and 2 pushy CMs, or 2 sitters and a CM. He is the best passer at the club, he has always needed runners, but we have been playing football statues for the last 3 seasons.

We have started the last three pre-seasons with Morison, Bulut, Bulut/Riza .....What chance does the kid have, an imposter and a Turk playing 1980s defensive Italian tactics?

I don't think any will come in for him with serious money, as at best his career has stalled.

I imagine a lot of the interview chat was over the Colwill Question? What can you do with him, whats missing?

This should be the coach to fulfill the potential

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:41 am

MorgCCFC wrote:
Blue since 1981 wrote:Here is a detailed look at Ruben's stats from the season just gone, I think a few people will be surprised at just how much running he puts in each game it's way above average in the championship

, most of his stats are above average, just needs to work on goals and chances created
https://fbref.com/en/players/f170b63e/s ... ing-Report


I can’t find where it shows how much running he does? He carries the ball well but that’s completely different to work rate off the ball. In attack and defense without the ball he just comes across half hearted. He doesn’t make runs to receive the ball and he doesn’t chase people down. If he does get near the opposition there’s a half hearted attempt to block a pass/clearence. Just my opinion anyway.



Not making Bellamy's squad's point immediately towards his weaknesses with and without the ball. Bellamy has many non-negotiables, especially high intensity and work rate.

There is a player there for sure, hopefully BB-M can get the best from him.
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Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:41 am

I’m hoping he will use our younger players he will certainly improve their knowledge of the game .Its entirely up to the individual players to have the determination to break into the first team as the mental make up of a player is so important.Hopefully the Colwills knuckle down and have a real go this season as they are both very talented .BBM will need a lot of patience off us fans as his football philosophy will take time to be taken on board by the majority of the players.Im optimistic that we will have a new style of play which will be good to watch and a bit more tempo which we have lacked for a while :old: :bluescarf:

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:42 am

All about opinions - I believe Rubin is one of our very best players - and in terms of effort, gives far more than the likes of Robinson and Turnbull ( who rarely need to shower after a game ).

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:59 am

Harry Wilson is the perfect example of finding a coach who plays a game plan that suits your skillset. The helter-skelter 100 mile per hour of Bellamy enhances him, whilst the slow Fulham game plan doesn't.

Rubin is an instinctive player; even though he is not quick, he needs to be in a quick and hectic game. Bellamy's tactics are kamikaze; it's only a game of football after all. If BBM is in the same vein, and it sounds like, Rubin may get that mojo back. We just need to find his position.

Harry Wilson is amazing, but he is now 28, at the top of his game. As somebody previously said, he was rocking up to the city at the same age.

I doubt there are that many coaches in the UK who have worked with as many talented kids, so it will be interesting to see what he does with Rubin.

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 9:06 am

Russell Martin has always rated him, I wouldn't be surprised that now he's at Rangers, he makes a cheeky bid.

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 9:40 am

I think Rubin needs to become more fitter. He never really gives me the impression that he's an athlete. More reliant on the natural ability he has.

For me, he then either needs to:

1) Get more goals an assists and forge himself as a #10.
2) Get more physical and learn the deeper role/turn defence into attack but also do a job without the ball.

I am a huge fan of him on his day, but his stats are poor. He'd make an excellent 12th player if we had a 12 v 11 (if that makes sense).

Another 'big season' for Rubin. New coach, new division. He's 23 now with a good few seasons of championship football under his belt. On paper, he should rip this division up!

At the time of writing... 154 appearances, 14 goals.

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:18 am

I think I’d see him more as a Declan Rice type of player.

Not truly defensive but not a 10.

May learn that blend of 6/8 positions.

BBM won’t mess about and will understand his best role, otherwise he’s a bench option for certain scenarios if he continues to remain inconsistent.

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:30 am

MillenniumNova wrote:I think I’d see him more as a Declan Rice type of player.

Not truly defensive but not a 10.

May learn that blend of 6/8 positions.

BBM won’t mess about and will understand his best role, otherwise he’s a bench option for certain scenarios if he continues to remain inconsistent.



Absolutely. I think it was in one of Bellamy's pressers, and he said you guys (media) are obsessed with formations, it's not formations, it's about shapes with and without the ball. For modern coaches, you need to be fluid.
Arteta, a Pep disciple, took a rigid defensive midfielder from West Ham and made him into a modern CM.

I guess if you are over 45 its what midfielders used to do. Kav, Ledley or at a higher level Roy Keane, run, defend, pass, attack

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:32 pm

Let's hope so for ours, Wales and Rubins sake

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:56 pm

I think he may do well in lge 1 as it's more his level at the moment & could help with his confidence & therefore his consistency and could be the making of him. If he doesn't shine in lge 1 it's time to give up on him.

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:09 pm

I hope Murphy is hot on fitness. Colwill needs to shed some weight to be more agile on the pitch. There are a few others who need to get fitter. There are a few there who need to up their fitness levels.

Re: Is this the manager for Rubin.... Finally?

Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:31 pm

charlieduke wrote:I hope Murphy is hot on fitness. Colwill needs to shed some weight to be more agile on the pitch. There are a few others who need to get fitter. There are a few there who need to up their fitness levels.


I agree he needs to be more fitter