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Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:13 pm

This is the thing I'm most surprised about.

Tan has his self-imposed rules of not giving a manager more than a two year contract.

He has broken those rules for BBM.

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:16 pm

What will be Interesting is how much of a budget he'll be given for new players. I think that will give an indication of Tan's intentions of getting us promoted asap

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:23 pm

Surprised at that also.

Hope he is backed properly - I can imagine that with his background of developing youth players, part of the conversation was around how long it would take for our current crop to be fully ingrained in the first team.

That would have an effect on the budget.

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:26 pm

Yep. Tan's statement appears to emphasise on development of youth players

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:29 pm

We won't have a budget be depending on youth players with some current senior players already at the club it's obvious

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:34 pm

Perhaps the role of a Head Coach is different to that of a Manager. Also called the Furst Team Coach. Maybe more to come in terms of structure.

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:36 pm

Hopefully they mean it when they want long-term outlook on this.

3-year contract definitely helps.

There’s probably the worry that if he does very well, he could get poached if he has to renew a contract.

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:27 pm

The other way to look at a 3yr contract is if the rumours of Tan being in talks to sell are true there will be stability for a new owner with a manager in place for 2-3 seasons removing the burden of finding a manager as a first point of business and could hit the ground running with other aspects of the club

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:59 pm

I'm surprised at giving him a three year contract, with our track record of replacing managers.
If he gets sacked before January, he'll be laughing all the way to the bank with the pay off.

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:16 pm

Chesterfield DoF?

Seems to be name-checked quite a bit lately.

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:26 pm

llan bluebird wrote:Chesterfield DoF?

Seems to be name-checked quite a bit lately.


Now you've said it, wouldn't shock me.

Things properly should have clicked when the Academy Manager was involved in the recruitment of the First Team manager.

BBM mentioned him a few times in his interview.

I don't think I'd be against it. Chesterfield may have only managed Barry but he was highly rated for his knowledge of the game when there.

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:50 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:Chesterfield DoF?

Seems to be name-checked quite a bit lately.


Now you've said it, wouldn't shock me.

Things properly should have clicked when the Academy Manager was involved in the recruitment of the First Team manager.

BBM mentioned him a few times in his interview.

I don't think I'd be against it. Chesterfield may have only managed Barry but he was highly rated for his knowledge of the game when there.



Its an administration role maybe Tan has found someone he trusts

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:58 pm

desbluebird wrote:We won't have a budget be depending on youth players with some current senior players already at the club it's obvious



Can't put in 6 or 7 youngsters who have very limited experience of 1st team football and expect to do well its a case of getting balance right which will mean getting some new players in ..

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:02 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
desbluebird wrote:We won't have a budget be depending on youth players with some current senior players already at the club it's obvious



Can't put in 6 or 7 youngsters who have very limited experience of 1st team football and expect to do well its a case of getting balance right which will mean getting some new players in ..


BBM said in his interview that he'll obviously assess the current squad but also said he'll be using his contacts to sign players.

I have a feeling he'll be backed. The three year contract hinted at that and the way he spoke suggests he expects to get the players he needs to play the way he wants.

But he will also trust a few academy players, probably Lawlor and Kpakio especially.

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:12 pm

Barryblubird wrote:Perhaps the role of a Head Coach is different to that of a Manager. Also called the Furst Team Coach. Maybe more to come in terms of structure.


The change in job title is quite often driven by previous sackings/early release. If they let someone go prior to end of contract they can use making the job role redundant. Which means they can’t employ someone us in the same job title, for a period. Can’t remember the legal timeframe. Outside of the true top teams I no longer pay attention to coach/manager titles. They manage the first team squad and pick the team for games, whatever they’re called.

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:15 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
desbluebird wrote:We won't have a budget be depending on youth players with some current senior players already at the club it's obvious



Can't put in 6 or 7 youngsters who have very limited experience of 1st team football and expect to do well its a case of getting balance right which will mean getting some new players in ..


Can’t forget that infamous comment of Alan Hansen mate. :laughing6:
Never say never :)

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:17 pm

Simplesimon wrote:
Barryblubird wrote:Perhaps the role of a Head Coach is different to that of a Manager. Also called the Furst Team Coach. Maybe more to come in terms of structure.


The change in job title is quite often driven by previous sackings/early release. If they let someone go prior to end of contract they can use making the job role redundant. Which means they can’t employ someone us in the same job title, for a period. Can’t remember the legal timeframe. Outside of the true top teams I no longer pay attention to coach/manager titles. They manage the first team squad and pick the team for games, whatever they’re called.


That’s making someone redundant.

Sacking is a whole different set of rules.

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:28 pm

maccydee wrote:
Simplesimon wrote:
Barryblubird wrote:Perhaps the role of a Head Coach is different to that of a Manager. Also called the Furst Team Coach. Maybe more to come in terms of structure.


The change in job title is quite often driven by previous sackings/early release. If they let someone go prior to end of contract they can use making the job role redundant. Which means they can’t employ someone us in the same job title, for a period. Can’t remember the legal timeframe. Outside of the true top teams I no longer pay attention to coach/manager titles. They manage the first team squad and pick the team for games, whatever they’re called.


That’s making someone redundant.

Sacking is a whole different set of rules.


I know, maybe I should have put sackings in inverted commas. As it’s obvious they’ve been sacked and everyone knows they’ve been sacked. But you can’t sack someone swiftly for being shite at their job in the UK. So I assume they use the redundancy route to facilitate it the majority of times. It’s only an opinion. I haven’t gone back over the various appointments since say, Neil Harris. But I would expect to see a few different titles used, especially when some were still getting paid by us. :occasion5:

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:01 pm

What's a contract for?

It's just a compensation decision for whoever breaks it first. If it's him (when was the last time that happened), we may get a few pounds, but it's usually us at around Christmas, and it will cost us a lot more if it goes the way it usually does with inexperienced Managers.

I think it's a long contract because we took seven weeks to fail on a few, and we needed a Manager and were in a weak negotiating position.

Still I wish him all the best and hope he can prove me and the many doubters wrong.

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:39 pm

It might be a 3 year contract - but we ALL don't know the terms of that contract - when it comes to " IF thing's go wrong " .
Just as much as some of our players can go if we went down - the same with a manager if we are not where Mr T wants Us .

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:45 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:It might be a 3 year contract - but we ALL don't know the terms of that contract - when it comes to " IF thing's go wrong " .
Just as much as some of our players can go if we went down - the same with a manager if we are not where Mr T wants Us .


True - but first three year contract for a manager since Malky was appointed.

Re: Three year contract

Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:49 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:It might be a 3 year contract - but we ALL don't know the terms of that contract - when it comes to " IF thing's go wrong " .
Just as much as some of our players can go if we went down - the same with a manager if we are not where Mr T wants Us .


True - but first three year contract for a manager since Malky was appointed.

Agree and the the Best Manager MM in the last 14 years along with NW - So lets see what happens - Good Luck to BB-M .

Re: Three year contract

Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:43 am

It’s obvious to me why he’s been given a longer three year contract.

The club have realised, at last, that they need to have a plan and build a team. Something long term with a club philosophy.
By bringing in a young, progressive coach that’s the plan and not a short term fix of recent years that hasn’t worked.

Credit for that and while it’s a gamble as virtually every new manager is let’s hope us fans have the patience to see if it works.

Re: Three year contract

Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:02 am

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:It’s obvious to me why he’s been given a longer three year contract.

The club have realised, at last, that they need to have a plan and build a team. Something long term with a club philosophy.
By bringing in a young, progressive coach that’s the plan and not a short term fix of recent years that hasn’t worked.

Credit for that and while it’s a gamble as virtually every new manager is let’s hope us fans have the patience to see if it works.



Contracts mean nothing. He does well, gets a better job at a higher level, performs similarly to our previous coaches, and gets the boot in six months.

Re: Three year contract

Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:06 am

Bluebina wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:It’s obvious to me why he’s been given a longer three year contract.

The club have realised, at last, that they need to have a plan and build a team. Something long term with a club philosophy.
By bringing in a young, progressive coach that’s the plan and not a short term fix of recent years that hasn’t worked.

Credit for that and while it’s a gamble as virtually every new manager is let’s hope us fans have the patience to see if it works.



Contracts mean nothing. He does well, gets a better job at a higher level, performs similarly to our previous coaches, and gets the boot in six months.


Of course it’s the same with players or in any line of work at the top.

My point was to underline the reason why he was given a longer than usual contract.

Re: Three year contract

Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:33 am

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:It’s obvious to me why he’s been given a longer three year contract.

The club have realised, at last, that they need to have a plan and build a team. Something long term with a club philosophy.
By bringing in a young, progressive coach that’s the plan and not a short term fix of recent years that hasn’t worked.

Credit for that and while it’s a gamble as virtually every new manager is let’s hope us fans have the patience to see if it works.



Contracts mean nothing. He does well, gets a better job at a higher level, performs similarly to our previous coaches, and gets the boot in six months.


Of course it’s the same with players or in any line of work at the top.

My point was to underline the reason why he was given a longer than usual contract.



Let's hope it goes that way, and he's still here doing a good job :thumbup:

Re: Three year contract

Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:35 pm

Has tab given the 3year deal knowing hes in talks to sell, if BBM does poorly he may not be the one who pays up the contract as he'd have sold up?!

Just a thought

Re: Three year contract

Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:18 pm

Simplesimon wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Simplesimon wrote:
Barryblubird wrote:Perhaps the role of a Head Coach is different to that of a Manager. Also called the Furst Team Coach. Maybe more to come in terms of structure.


The change in job title is quite often driven by previous sackings/early release. If they let someone go prior to end of contract they can use making the job role redundant. Which means they can’t employ someone us in the same job title, for a period. Can’t remember the legal timeframe. Outside of the true top teams I no longer pay attention to coach/manager titles. They manage the first team squad and pick the team for games, whatever they’re called.


That’s making someone redundant.

Sacking is a whole different set of rules.


I know, maybe I should have put sackings in inverted commas. As it’s obvious they’ve been sacked and everyone knows they’ve been sacked. But you can’t sack someone swiftly for being shite at their job in the UK. So I assume they use the redundancy route to facilitate it the majority of times. It’s only an opinion. I haven’t gone back over the various appointments since say, Neil Harris. But I would expect to see a few different titles used, especially when some were still getting paid by us. :occasion5:


It all depends on the organisation’s commitment to process and discipline- not something I’ve struggled with in the firms I’ve worked in.