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llan bluebird wrote:Chesterfield DoF?
Seems to be name-checked quite a bit lately.
Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:50 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:llan bluebird wrote:Chesterfield DoF?
Seems to be name-checked quite a bit lately.
Now you've said it, wouldn't shock me.
Things properly should have clicked when the Academy Manager was involved in the recruitment of the First Team manager.
BBM mentioned him a few times in his interview.
I don't think I'd be against it. Chesterfield may have only managed Barry but he was highly rated for his knowledge of the game when there.
Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:58 pm
desbluebird wrote:We won't have a budget be depending on youth players with some current senior players already at the club it's obvious
Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:02 pm
pembroke allan wrote:desbluebird wrote:We won't have a budget be depending on youth players with some current senior players already at the club it's obvious
Can't put in 6 or 7 youngsters who have very limited experience of 1st team football and expect to do well its a case of getting balance right which will mean getting some new players in ..
Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:12 pm
Barryblubird wrote:Perhaps the role of a Head Coach is different to that of a Manager. Also called the Furst Team Coach. Maybe more to come in terms of structure.
Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:15 pm
pembroke allan wrote:desbluebird wrote:We won't have a budget be depending on youth players with some current senior players already at the club it's obvious
Can't put in 6 or 7 youngsters who have very limited experience of 1st team football and expect to do well its a case of getting balance right which will mean getting some new players in ..
Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:17 pm
Simplesimon wrote:Barryblubird wrote:Perhaps the role of a Head Coach is different to that of a Manager. Also called the Furst Team Coach. Maybe more to come in terms of structure.
The change in job title is quite often driven by previous sackings/early release. If they let someone go prior to end of contract they can use making the job role redundant. Which means they can’t employ someone us in the same job title, for a period. Can’t remember the legal timeframe. Outside of the true top teams I no longer pay attention to coach/manager titles. They manage the first team squad and pick the team for games, whatever they’re called.
Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:28 pm
maccydee wrote:Simplesimon wrote:Barryblubird wrote:Perhaps the role of a Head Coach is different to that of a Manager. Also called the Furst Team Coach. Maybe more to come in terms of structure.
The change in job title is quite often driven by previous sackings/early release. If they let someone go prior to end of contract they can use making the job role redundant. Which means they can’t employ someone us in the same job title, for a period. Can’t remember the legal timeframe. Outside of the true top teams I no longer pay attention to coach/manager titles. They manage the first team squad and pick the team for games, whatever they’re called.
That’s making someone redundant.
Sacking is a whole different set of rules.
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TopCat CCFC wrote:It might be a 3 year contract - but we ALL don't know the terms of that contract - when it comes to " IF thing's go wrong " .
Just as much as some of our players can go if we went down - the same with a manager if we are not where Mr T wants Us .
Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:49 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:It might be a 3 year contract - but we ALL don't know the terms of that contract - when it comes to " IF thing's go wrong " .
Just as much as some of our players can go if we went down - the same with a manager if we are not where Mr T wants Us .
True - but first three year contract for a manager since Malky was appointed.
Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:43 am
Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:02 am
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:It’s obvious to me why he’s been given a longer three year contract.
The club have realised, at last, that they need to have a plan and build a team. Something long term with a club philosophy.
By bringing in a young, progressive coach that’s the plan and not a short term fix of recent years that hasn’t worked.
Credit for that and while it’s a gamble as virtually every new manager is let’s hope us fans have the patience to see if it works.
Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:06 am
Bluebina wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:It’s obvious to me why he’s been given a longer three year contract.
The club have realised, at last, that they need to have a plan and build a team. Something long term with a club philosophy.
By bringing in a young, progressive coach that’s the plan and not a short term fix of recent years that hasn’t worked.
Credit for that and while it’s a gamble as virtually every new manager is let’s hope us fans have the patience to see if it works.
Contracts mean nothing. He does well, gets a better job at a higher level, performs similarly to our previous coaches, and gets the boot in six months.
Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:33 am
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Bluebina wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:It’s obvious to me why he’s been given a longer three year contract.
The club have realised, at last, that they need to have a plan and build a team. Something long term with a club philosophy.
By bringing in a young, progressive coach that’s the plan and not a short term fix of recent years that hasn’t worked.
Credit for that and while it’s a gamble as virtually every new manager is let’s hope us fans have the patience to see if it works.
Contracts mean nothing. He does well, gets a better job at a higher level, performs similarly to our previous coaches, and gets the boot in six months.
Of course it’s the same with players or in any line of work at the top.
My point was to underline the reason why he was given a longer than usual contract.
Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:35 pm
Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:18 pm
Simplesimon wrote:maccydee wrote:Simplesimon wrote:Barryblubird wrote:Perhaps the role of a Head Coach is different to that of a Manager. Also called the Furst Team Coach. Maybe more to come in terms of structure.
The change in job title is quite often driven by previous sackings/early release. If they let someone go prior to end of contract they can use making the job role redundant. Which means they can’t employ someone us in the same job title, for a period. Can’t remember the legal timeframe. Outside of the true top teams I no longer pay attention to coach/manager titles. They manage the first team squad and pick the team for games, whatever they’re called.
That’s making someone redundant.
Sacking is a whole different set of rules.
I know, maybe I should have put sackings in inverted commas. As it’s obvious they’ve been sacked and everyone knows they’ve been sacked. But you can’t sack someone swiftly for being shite at their job in the UK. So I assume they use the redundancy route to facilitate it the majority of times. It’s only an opinion. I haven’t gone back over the various appointments since say, Neil Harris. But I would expect to see a few different titles used, especially when some were still getting paid by us.