Open invitation to the Trust and the FAB

I'd implore both to openly support and advertise a demonstration, just like Sheff Wed.

Someone else can organise.

If you refuse, please tell us why and how you are standing up for the fans rights under your organisation.

If your afraid of what you might lose or what Tan might say or do then you're letting the fans down.

Just picture this; Trust, FAB and the Supporters club fully back and promote the removal of Tan.

Only that will allow us to get our club back and start again.

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Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

Jonny I also tweeted them both this morning at 9am.

I can see they are not interested in Standing up to the Hierarchy, I really hope I am wrong??


We want Our Fan Base united against The Hierarchy it’s the only way forward / Let’s Unite for Our Club Cardiff City

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Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

Well said Jonny

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I think the various organisations need to remember they are run by fans for the fans.

Get members voting on what they want to do in future, they should not be releasing statements after we have been relegated. That sh*t should have been done long before that. The club for a few seasons now has been an utter f*cking embarrassment.

Our club let’s be honest is run by a dictatorship that starts and stops at Tan. Yes we have been to the Premiership twice but for years now it hasn’t been the club I fell in love with in 1988 when I was 11. I won’t google what league we were in or how many fans were there but it was piss poor.

We have been in lower leagues before and had far worse players than we have now. But you always felt like you were part of the club not a f*cking costumer. We have never had an owner who does not listen to the simple and basic things fans should expect from an owner of a club.

People say without Tan our club will be doomed, give it a few more years and league two will be calling. It is already a sinking ship thanks to Tan and his homies. It’s about time we the fans and all get together and try to rid this parasite from OUR CLUB.

There is no plan or hope with Tan at the helm.

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

I know that you are against protesting and don't agree with people when they air their views for the protests or against Cardiff fans who won't protest.

You say you want tan gone, and this is a genuine question, how do you think getting rid of tan should be "handled"?

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

I know that you are against protesting and don't agree with people when they air their views for the protests or against Cardiff fans who won't protest.

You say you want tan gone, and this is a genuine question, how do you think getting rid of tan should be "handled"?

I 2nd that question?

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

This is the sort of thing that doesn't do any good

I know lots of trust and supporters club members have marched against tan before

The people who scoffed at us during the first march many years ago against Ridsdale were club officials up in the top level of the stadium

Try not to drag yourself into punch and judy name calling it happens on all sides of this situation and its a complete waste of time

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

I know that you are against protesting and don't agree with people when they air their views for the protests or against Cardiff fans who won't protest.

You say you want tan gone, and this is a genuine question, how do you think getting rid of tan should be "handled"?

By avoiding having a go at each other

Its really not difficult

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

This is the sort of thing that doesn't do any good

I know lots of trust and supporters club members have marched against tan before

The people who scoffed at us during the first march many years ago against Ridsdale were club officials up in the top level of the stadium

Try not to drag yourself into punch and judy name calling it happens on all sides of this situation and its a complete waste of time

Sludge, you are clearly an advocate of doing nothing and letting sleeping dogs lie. While others try and do something. So who is wrong you or those wanting Tan out?

Can you let me know where I have resorted to name calling? Holding a group or groups, that are created for the fans, to account is not wrong and perfectly allowed.

I believe the fact that they have yet to pressure the board during the past farcical few years shows a timidness not associated with the purpose for which they were, apparantly, formed.

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

I know that you are against protesting and don't agree with people when they air their views for the protests or against Cardiff fans who won't protest.

You say you want tan gone, and this is a genuine question, how do you think getting rid of tan should be "handled"?

By avoiding having a go at each other

Its really not difficult

So don't have a go at Tan then? Or let's not upset the TRUST or the FAB even though they are our only voice, but NEVER USE IT TO PUT PRESSURE ON TAN.

Yes sir no sir three bags full sir spring is to mind

It seems the trust have reached there breaking point

The letter they just put out verbally attacks tan on a couple of occasions

Now is the perfect opportunity for all groups to set a side there differences and unite to force through a change at our club

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

I know that you are against protesting and don't agree with people when they air their views for the protests or against Cardiff fans who won't protest.

You say you want tan gone, and this is a genuine question, how do you think getting rid of tan should be "handled"?

I don’t have any genius ideas I’m afraid, I never claimed to have.

But what I do believe and I’ll stand by, is that there needs to be unity amongst supporters.

Unity isn’t going to be achieved with comments like those made by tangledupinblue and others calling people Tan Lovers etc.

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

I know that you are against protesting and don't agree with people when they air their views for the protests or against Cardiff fans who won't protest.

You say you want tan gone, and this is a genuine question, how do you think getting rid of tan should be "handled"?

By avoiding having a go at each other

Its really not difficult

So don't have a go at Tan then? Or let's not upset the TRUST or the FAB even though they are our only voice, but NEVER USE IT TO PUT PRESSURE ON TAN.

Yes sir no sir three bags full sir spring is to mind

My response was directed at tangled up in blue , not you

But your reply to me is clearly an example of the same sort of thing

If you want to be taken seriously then you are going to have to do better than yes sir , no sir , 3 bags full

It just comes across as you are throwing your toys out the pram

I think your post on the other site week before last was good and I didn't agree with the sarcastic replies from a few but you are doing exactly the same

You have to drop that sort of stuff , its pointless

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

I know that you are against protesting and don't agree with people when they air their views for the protests or against Cardiff fans who won't protest.

You say you want tan gone, and this is a genuine question, how do you think getting rid of tan should be "handled"?

By avoiding having a go at each other

Its really not difficult

So don't have a go at Tan then? Or let's not upset the TRUST or the FAB even though they are our only voice, but NEVER USE IT TO PUT PRESSURE ON TAN.

Yes sir no sir three bags full sir spring is to mind

My response was directed at tangled up in blue , not you

But your reply to me is clearly an example of the same sort of thing

If you want to be taken seriously then you are going to have to do better than yes sir , no sir , 3 bags full

It just comes across as you are throwing your toys out the pram

I think your post on the other site week before last was good and I didn't agree with the sarcastic replies from a few but you are doing exactly the same

You have to drop that sort of stuff , its pointless

Sludge, I have been saying pretty much the same thing for a long time.

Posts having a go at people who haven’t signed the petition, people who didn’t protest, being labelled as Tan lovers etc etc.

Other people who are part of the committee then carrying on that trend.

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

I know that you are against protesting and don't agree with people when they air their views for the protests or against Cardiff fans who won't protest.

You say you want tan gone, and this is a genuine question, how do you think getting rid of tan should be "handled"?

I don’t have any genius ideas I’m afraid, I never claimed to have.

But what I do believe and I’ll stand by, is that there needs to be unity amongst supporters.

Unity isn’t going to be achieved with comments like those made by tangledupinblue and others calling people Tan Lovers etc.

TBH I wasn't after a genius idea, just your opinion because you are against protesting. Can I assume then that you don't have an idea on how to get rid of Tan but you are more than happy to criticise those that do have an idea and want to protest. Surely you can see that protesting is better than doing nothing and shows that those protesting care about their club and want the best for it and its supporters.

And I totally agree with you, there does need to be unity amongst all Cardiff city supporters and until someone comes up with a better Idea than protesting, I want every Cardiff fan to stand with those of us who choose to protest in order to get Tan out.

I hope you will be there by our side on the next protest.

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

I know that you are against protesting and don't agree with people when they air their views for the protests or against Cardiff fans who won't protest.

You say you want tan gone, and this is a genuine question, how do you think getting rid of tan should be "handled"?

By avoiding having a go at each other

Its really not difficult

So don't have a go at Tan then? Or let's not upset the TRUST or the FAB even though they are our only voice, but NEVER USE IT TO PUT PRESSURE ON TAN.

Yes sir no sir three bags full sir spring is to mind

My response was directed at tangled up in blue , not you

But your reply to me is clearly an example of the same sort of thing

If you want to be taken seriously then you are going to have to do better than yes sir , no sir , 3 bags full

It just comes across as you are throwing your toys out the pram

I think your post on the other site week before last was good and I didn't agree with the sarcastic replies from a few but you are doing exactly the same

You have to drop that sort of stuff , its pointless

Sludge, I have been saying pretty much the same thing for a long time.

Posts having a go at people who haven’t signed the petition, people who didn’t protest, being labelled as Tan lovers etc etc.

Other people who are part of the committee then carrying on that trend.

Nobody is happy with the mess we are seeing but the answer is not found in this you are either with us or with tan nonsense

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

I know that you are against protesting and don't agree with people when they air their views for the protests or against Cardiff fans who won't protest.

You say you want tan gone, and this is a genuine question, how do you think getting rid of tan should be "handled"?

I don’t have any genius ideas I’m afraid, I never claimed to have.

But what I do believe and I’ll stand by, is that there needs to be unity amongst supporters.

Unity isn’t going to be achieved with comments like those made by tangledupinblue and others calling people Tan Lovers etc.

TBH I wasn't after a genius idea, just your opinion because you are against protesting. Can I assume then that you don't have an idea on how to get rid of Tan but you are more than happy to criticise those that do have an idea and want to protest. Surely you can see that protesting is better than doing nothing and shows that those protesting care about their club and want the best for it and its supporters.

And I totally agree with you, there does need to be unity amongst all Cardiff city supporters and until someone comes up with a better Idea than protesting, I want every Cardiff fan to stand with those of us who choose to protest in order to get Tan out.

I hope you will be there by our side on the next protest.

Mike, I am not against protesting, I simply stated that I didn’t believe it was a good idea to protest on a random Monday night in the off season.

I also am not criticising people for the work that they are putting in, I commend everyone who is putting work in for the cause however there are a few things which I am not keen on, namely the name calling if people disagree with certain ways of things being done.

As for ideas - I’ve suggested a few previously but they either got buried under the comments on a thread or were deemed to be not good enough.

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

I know that you are against protesting and don't agree with people when they air their views for the protests or against Cardiff fans who won't protest.

You say you want tan gone, and this is a genuine question, how do you think getting rid of tan should be "handled"?

I don’t have any genius ideas I’m afraid, I never claimed to have.

But what I do believe and I’ll stand by, is that there needs to be unity amongst supporters.

Unity isn’t going to be achieved with comments like those made by tangledupinblue and others calling people Tan Lovers etc.

TBH I wasn't after a genius idea, just your opinion because you are against protesting. Can I assume then that you don't have an idea on how to get rid of Tan but you are more than happy to criticise those that do have an idea and want to protest. Surely you can see that protesting is better than doing nothing and shows that those protesting care about their club and want the best for it and its supporters.

And I totally agree with you, there does need to be unity amongst all Cardiff city supporters and until someone comes up with a better Idea than protesting, I want every Cardiff fan to stand with those of us who choose to protest in order to get Tan out.

I hope you will be there by our side on the next protest.

I have been on most of the protests but those that don't attend or are not trust members or are not FAB members or are not supporters club members should not be told that they don't care about the club because they don't attend every March or every trust meeting or have every single home kit since 1970

I am being sarcastic there but I hope you get that its better for people who think a protest is good to go on that protest and those that want to get the trust to tell the board to get a grip ....such as that latest letter....are both the same.....CCFC fans

Cheers

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

I know that you are against protesting and don't agree with people when they air their views for the protests or against Cardiff fans who won't protest.

You say you want tan gone, and this is a genuine question, how do you think getting rid of tan should be "handled"?

I don’t have any genius ideas I’m afraid, I never claimed to have.

But what I do believe and I’ll stand by, is that there needs to be unity amongst supporters.

Unity isn’t going to be achieved with comments like those made by tangledupinblue and others calling people Tan Lovers etc.

TBH I wasn't after a genius idea, just your opinion because you are against protesting. Can I assume then that you don't have an idea on how to get rid of Tan but you are more than happy to criticise those that do have an idea and want to protest. Surely you can see that protesting is better than doing nothing and shows that those protesting care about their club and want the best for it and its supporters.

And I totally agree with you, there does need to be unity amongst all Cardiff city supporters and until someone comes up with a better Idea than protesting, I want every Cardiff fan to stand with those of us who choose to protest in order to get Tan out.

I hope you will be there by our side on the next protest.

Mike, I am not against protesting, I simply stated that I didn’t believe it was a good idea to protest on a random Monday night in the off season.

I also am not criticising people for the work that they are putting in, I commend everyone who is putting work in for the cause however there are a few things which I am not keen on, namely the name calling if people disagree with certain ways of things being done.

As for ideas - I’ve suggested a few previously but they either got buried under the comments on a thread or were deemed to be not good enough.

That's fair enough.

I think most on here have got a bit hot headed about something they truly believe in and used words they wouldn't normally use to describe others, especially when the subject is Vincent Tan. He seems to bring the worst out of people.

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

I know that you are against protesting and don't agree with people when they air their views for the protests or against Cardiff fans who won't protest.

You say you want tan gone, and this is a genuine question, how do you think getting rid of tan should be "handled"?

I don’t have any genius ideas I’m afraid, I never claimed to have.

But what I do believe and I’ll stand by, is that there needs to be unity amongst supporters.

Unity isn’t going to be achieved with comments like those made by tangledupinblue and others calling people Tan Lovers etc.

TBH I wasn't after a genius idea, just your opinion because you are against protesting. Can I assume then that you don't have an idea on how to get rid of Tan but you are more than happy to criticise those that do have an idea and want to protest. Surely you can see that protesting is better than doing nothing and shows that those protesting care about their club and want the best for it and its supporters.

And I totally agree with you, there does need to be unity amongst all Cardiff city supporters and until someone comes up with a better Idea than protesting, I want every Cardiff fan to stand with those of us who choose to protest in order to get Tan out.

I hope you will be there by our side on the next protest.

I have been on most of the protests but those that don't attend or are not trust members or are not FAB members or are not supporters club members should not be told that they don't care about the club because they don't attend every March or every trust meeting or have every single home kit since 1970

I am being sarcastic there but I hope you get that its better for people who think a protest is good to go on that protest and those that want to get the trust to tell the board to get a grip ....such as that latest letter....are both the same.....CCFC fans

Cheers

I have not mentioned the trust, supporters club or fab, but since you brought them up, why are they not vocally supporting the protest? They are there to represent us fans but besides a couple of letters they have done nothing to challenge the board. It's left up to others to organise protests and marches and has done for years including the infamous rebrand.

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

I know that you are against protesting and don't agree with people when they air their views for the protests or against Cardiff fans who won't protest.

You say you want tan gone, and this is a genuine question, how do you think getting rid of tan should be "handled"?

By avoiding having a go at each other

Its really not difficult

So don't have a go at Tan then? Or let's not upset the TRUST or the FAB even though they are our only voice, but NEVER USE IT TO PUT PRESSURE ON TAN.

Yes sir no sir three bags full sir spring is to mind

My response was directed at tangled up in blue , not you

But your reply to me is clearly an example of the same sort of thing

If you want to be taken seriously then you are going to have to do better than yes sir , no sir , 3 bags full

It just comes across as you are throwing your toys out the pram

I think your post on the other site week before last was good and I didn't agree with the sarcastic replies from a few but you are doing exactly the same

You have to drop that sort of stuff , its pointless

Sludge, I have been saying pretty much the same thing for a long time.

Posts having a go at people who haven’t signed the petition, people who didn’t protest, being labelled as Tan lovers etc etc.

Other people who are part of the committee then carrying on that trend.

You also have a good at protesters saying they are wasting there time are you not winding by saying that your comments are genuinely annoying to protesters they will be the judge whether they are wasting there time, it does not help when someone smugly is telling you so.
You could also add that you would not join any protest but wish them luck in trying.

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

Im not in a 'comittee of people' or a cult! my commitee is me and my 15 yr old and sometimes 12 year old home and away, spending lots of our limited budget on our club and getting in return mostly poor football, lies, neglect and broken promises from them. But yes I am part of like minded fans who speak most days, most of whom post on here. And shock, horror a lot of fans who we actually have left are beginning to lose their shit!

I have been name called for protesting, my banner, and others even worse. So its all around. And I agree it doesn't help, but such is the toxicity and division caused by Tan stretching back to the infamous and despicable red . When you were name calling me a year or so ago for criticising Bulut and wanting him replaced, I wonder what your reaction would have been if I had told you in a years time we will be in League 1, and as of June 10, managerless for 54 days, and the promised improved dialogue and promises between club and fans had actually worsened to new depths. 125th year!! And then deja vu, the same thing played out with you a few months later with Riza. Both managers and the man who appointed them put us here.

No wonder fans are losing their shit and going way past their tipping points and tolerance levels, and taking to forums to offload. For me to resort to name calling maybe my time came today. And it was the fan groups that got it off me, despite me feeling that they have not been pushing Tan/the board for asking the big questions and not communicating with non fan club members before publishing letters, I was harsh in calling them Tan apologists and prawn sandwich brigade, so I will take that back, but they have not helped themselves and i am far from alone in thinking this way. That said, I do like the language and tone of todays letter from them

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

I know that you are against protesting and don't agree with people when they air their views for the protests or against Cardiff fans who won't protest.

You say you want tan gone, and this is a genuine question, how do you think getting rid of tan should be "handled"?

I don’t have any genius ideas I’m afraid, I never claimed to have.

But what I do believe and I’ll stand by, is that there needs to be unity amongst supporters.

Unity isn’t going to be achieved with comments like those made by tangledupinblue and others calling people Tan Lovers etc.

TBH I wasn't after a genius idea, just your opinion because you are against protesting. Can I assume then that you don't have an idea on how to get rid of Tan but you are more than happy to criticise those that do have an idea and want to protest. Surely you can see that protesting is better than doing nothing and shows that those protesting care about their club and want the best for it and its supporters.

And I totally agree with you, there does need to be unity amongst all Cardiff city supporters and until someone comes up with a better Idea than protesting, I want every Cardiff fan to stand with those of us who choose to protest in order to get Tan out.

I hope you will be there by our side on the next protest.

I have been on most of the protests but those that don't attend or are not trust members or are not FAB members or are not supporters club members should not be told that they don't care about the club because they don't attend every March or every trust meeting or have every single home kit since 1970

I am being sarcastic there but I hope you get that its better for people who think a protest is good to go on that protest and those that want to get the trust to tell the board to get a grip ....such as that latest letter....are both the same.....CCFC fans

Cheers

I have not mentioned the trust, supporters club or fab, but since you brought them up, why are they not vocally supporting the protest? They are there to represent us fans but besides a couple of letters they have done nothing to challenge the board. It's left up to others to organise protests and marches and has done for years including the infamous rebrand.

I was one of about twenty fans who met in the old ninian pub when the rebound was first announced , it was organised by the owner of this forum so I can assure you a lot of us from the old days put our necks on the block trying to stand up to the shirt change and got the phone call abuse to go with it



My general point which was made in my last post has been reinforced by your response unfortunately....why aren't the trust doing this or that etc

Its this sort of thing that's going to ensure when it comes to uniting the fan base.....we have absolutely no fkg chance

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

I know that you are against protesting and don't agree with people when they air their views for the protests or against Cardiff fans who won't protest.

You say you want tan gone, and this is a genuine question, how do you think getting rid of tan should be "handled"?

I don’t have any genius ideas I’m afraid, I never claimed to have.

But what I do believe and I’ll stand by, is that there needs to be unity amongst supporters.

Unity isn’t going to be achieved with comments like those made by tangledupinblue and others calling people Tan Lovers etc.

TBH I wasn't after a genius idea, just your opinion because you are against protesting. Can I assume then that you don't have an idea on how to get rid of Tan but you are more than happy to criticise those that do have an idea and want to protest. Surely you can see that protesting is better than doing nothing and shows that those protesting care about their club and want the best for it and its supporters.

And I totally agree with you, there does need to be unity amongst all Cardiff city supporters and until someone comes up with a better Idea than protesting, I want every Cardiff fan to stand with those of us who choose to protest in order to get Tan out.

I hope you will be there by our side on the next protest.

I have been on most of the protests but those that don't attend or are not trust members or are not FAB members or are not supporters club members should not be told that they don't care about the club because they don't attend every March or every trust meeting or have every single home kit since 1970

I am being sarcastic there but I hope you get that its better for people who think a protest is good to go on that protest and those that want to get the trust to tell the board to get a grip ....such as that latest letter....are both the same.....CCFC fans

Cheers

I have not mentioned the trust, supporters club or fab, but since you brought them up, why are they not vocally supporting the protest? They are there to represent us fans but besides a couple of letters they have done nothing to challenge the board. It's left up to others to organise protests and marches and has done for years including the infamous rebrand.

I was one of about twenty fans who met in the old ninian pub when the rebound was first announced , it was organised by the owner of this forum so I can assure you a lot of us from the old days put our necks on the block trying to stand up to the shirt change and got the phone call abuse to go with it



My general point which was made in my last post has been reinforced by your response unfortunately....why aren't the trust doing this or that etc

Its this sort of thing that's going to ensure when it comes to uniting the fan base.....we have absolutely no fkg chance

Are you a trust member?

If so, please answer this. Why aren't the trust organising protests and vocally getting involved with them?

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

I know that you are against protesting and don't agree with people when they air their views for the protests or against Cardiff fans who won't protest.

You say you want tan gone, and this is a genuine question, how do you think getting rid of tan should be "handled"?

I don’t have any genius ideas I’m afraid, I never claimed to have.

But what I do believe and I’ll stand by, is that there needs to be unity amongst supporters.

Unity isn’t going to be achieved with comments like those made by tangledupinblue and others calling people Tan Lovers etc.

TBH I wasn't after a genius idea, just your opinion because you are against protesting. Can I assume then that you don't have an idea on how to get rid of Tan but you are more than happy to criticise those that do have an idea and want to protest. Surely you can see that protesting is better than doing nothing and shows that those protesting care about their club and want the best for it and its supporters.

And I totally agree with you, there does need to be unity amongst all Cardiff city supporters and until someone comes up with a better Idea than protesting, I want every Cardiff fan to stand with those of us who choose to protest in order to get Tan out.

I hope you will be there by our side on the next protest.

I have been on most of the protests but those that don't attend or are not trust members or are not FAB members or are not supporters club members should not be told that they don't care about the club because they don't attend every March or every trust meeting or have every single home kit since 1970

I am being sarcastic there but I hope you get that its better for people who think a protest is good to go on that protest and those that want to get the trust to tell the board to get a grip ....such as that latest letter....are both the same.....CCFC fans

Cheers

I have not mentioned the trust, supporters club or fab, but since you brought them up, why are they not vocally supporting the protest? They are there to represent us fans but besides a couple of letters they have done nothing to challenge the board. It's left up to others to organise protests and marches and has done for years including the infamous rebrand.

I was one of about twenty fans who met in the old ninian pub when the rebound was first announced , it was organised by the owner of this forum so I can assure you a lot of us from the old days put our necks on the block trying to stand up to the shirt change and got the phone call abuse to go with it



My general point which was made in my last post has been reinforced by your response unfortunately....why aren't the trust doing this or that etc

Its this sort of thing that's going to ensure when it comes to uniting the fan base.....we have absolutely no fkg chance

Are you a trust member?

If so, please answer this. Why aren't the trust organising protests and vocally getting involved with them?

Yes

I would assume that they at present prefer to try and engage with the club

The last two letters suggest that this approach is being reconsidered with a more direct response to what is , we all agree , a right old fudge

The question that some city fans ask is maybe protesting directly is not the way that a democratically elected fans group is there to do

Its perfectly possible to support the trustand its less direct approach and that of marches etc

I think that's fine and reasonable and I don't understand why so many people are so convinced that either a March or meetings with the club or letters should be mutually exclusive

It doesn't have to be one or the other and if the trust back a March organised by someone else and the turn out isn't great then what's next ?

Great post Jonny.

And this will not happen as they are full of Tan apologists and prawn sandwich eaters smirking at us from the windows while we protested. No doubt happy to be red so their boy Tan can feed us millions to waste on shite, we are in League 1 FFS!!!!! 54 days without a manager!!!!

SHOULD WE WRITE A LETTER TO THE TRUST AND FAB TO ASK THEM TO DO A SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY?

They wouldnt dare

No wonder they don’t listen to you or your committee of people.

You wanted feedback the other day, which has been given not only by me but by a lot of other people also about how certain people consistently call other people names/make comments about groups etc.

And here is another example.

I’m not a Tan lover. I want him gone.

But I’m not going to be part of what is turning into a (for want of a better word) cult, against people and groups who don’t either agree, or share the same views as to how things should be handled.

I know that you are against protesting and don't agree with people when they air their views for the protests or against Cardiff fans who won't protest.

You say you want tan gone, and this is a genuine question, how do you think getting rid of tan should be "handled"?

I don’t have any genius ideas I’m afraid, I never claimed to have.

But what I do believe and I’ll stand by, is that there needs to be unity amongst supporters.

Unity isn’t going to be achieved with comments like those made by tangledupinblue and others calling people Tan Lovers etc.

TBH I wasn't after a genius idea, just your opinion because you are against protesting. Can I assume then that you don't have an idea on how to get rid of Tan but you are more than happy to criticise those that do have an idea and want to protest. Surely you can see that protesting is better than doing nothing and shows that those protesting care about their club and want the best for it and its supporters.

And I totally agree with you, there does need to be unity amongst all Cardiff city supporters and until someone comes up with a better Idea than protesting, I want every Cardiff fan to stand with those of us who choose to protest in order to get Tan out.

I hope you will be there by our side on the next protest.

I have been on most of the protests but those that don't attend or are not trust members or are not FAB members or are not supporters club members should not be told that they don't care about the club because they don't attend every March or every trust meeting or have every single home kit since 1970

I am being sarcastic there but I hope you get that its better for people who think a protest is good to go on that protest and those that want to get the trust to tell the board to get a grip ....such as that latest letter....are both the same.....CCFC fans

Cheers

I have not mentioned the trust, supporters club or fab, but since you brought them up, why are they not vocally supporting the protest? They are there to represent us fans but besides a couple of letters they have done nothing to challenge the board. It's left up to others to organise protests and marches and has done for years including the infamous rebrand.

I was one of about twenty fans who met in the old ninian pub when the rebound was first announced , it was organised by the owner of this forum so I can assure you a lot of us from the old days put our necks on the block trying to stand up to the shirt change and got the phone call abuse to go with it



My general point which was made in my last post has been reinforced by your response unfortunately....why aren't the trust doing this or that etc

Its this sort of thing that's going to ensure when it comes to uniting the fan base.....we have absolutely no fkg chance

Are you a trust member?

If so, please answer this. Why aren't the trust organising protests and vocally getting involved with them?

Yes

I would assume that they at present prefer to try and engage with the club

The last two letters suggest that this approach is being reconsidered with a more direct response to what is , we all agree , a right old fudge

The question that some city fans ask is maybe protesting directly is not the way that a democratically elected fans group is there to do

Its perfectly possible to support the trustand its less direct approach and that of marches etc

I think that's fine and reasonable and I don't understand why so many people are so convinced that either a March or meetings with the club or letters should be mutually exclusive

It doesn't have to be one or the other and if the trust back a March organised by someone else and the turn out isn't great then what's next ?

There are also many others like me who ask why the trust don't organise a protest? If the trust, supporters group and fab organised a protest thousands would turn up and I believe the 3 groups know that but don't want to do it and I want to know why not?