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JJ1927 wrote:Ramsey. Buckingham's record and experience in the UK has been massively overstated by some on this forum and represents as big a risk as Ramsey. But at least Ramsey knows the players and the club
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Blue View wrote:I certainly don't want Ramsey as our player manager. If he announces his retirement from playing I would be happy to have him as our manager.
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JJ1927 wrote:Ramsey. Buckingham's record and experience in the UK has been massively overstated by some on this forum and represents as big a risk as Ramsey. But at least Ramsey knows the players and the club
Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:01 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:JJ1927 wrote:Ramsey. Buckingham's record and experience in the UK has been massively overstated by some on this forum and represents as big a risk as Ramsey. But at least Ramsey knows the players and the club
Always said Buckingham for me.
I don't attach too much weight to PPG or stuff like that, can only work with what you've been given.
I thought Oxford played a good style under Buckingham. It worked.
He had a tough start when he took over there but once things clicked, they really clicked. May well have kept them up, we'll never known - but their fans seemed to think it was harsh when they let him go.
The other thing that can't be ignored is that Ramsey has only managed three games. I believe he will go on to be a good manager - but not sure the time is right now.
My hunch is it will be Ramsey. Nothing to base that on, just a feeling.
Whoever it is, we all need to back them to give them the best chance of success.
Can't be in a position where we're looking for another manager during the season again.
Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:06 pm
llan bluebird wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:JJ1927 wrote:Ramsey. Buckingham's record and experience in the UK has been massively overstated by some on this forum and represents as big a risk as Ramsey. But at least Ramsey knows the players and the club
Always said Buckingham for me.
I don't attach too much weight to PPG or stuff like that, can only work with what you've been given.
I thought Oxford played a good style under Buckingham. It worked.
He had a tough start when he took over there but once things clicked, they really clicked. May well have kept them up, we'll never known - but their fans seemed to think it was harsh when they let him go.
The other thing that can't be ignored is that Ramsey has only managed three games. I believe he will go on to be a good manager - but not sure the time is right now.
My hunch is it will be Ramsey. Nothing to base that on, just a feeling.
Whoever it is, we all need to back them to give them the best chance of success.
Can't be in a position where we're looking for another manager during the season again.
Assuming its Des, what would you do with Ramsey?
IMO you can't have your obvious replacement sitting in the tent. 3 bad results and the Rambo chants would start.
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worcester_ccfc wrote:JJ1927 wrote:Ramsey. Buckingham's record and experience in the UK has been massively overstated by some on this forum and represents as big a risk as Ramsey. But at least Ramsey knows the players and the club
Always said Buckingham for me.
I don't attach too much weight to PPG or stuff like that, can only work with what you've been given.
I thought Oxford played a good style under Buckingham. It worked.
He had a tough start when he took over there but once things clicked, they really clicked. May well have kept them up, we'll never known - but their fans seemed to think it was harsh when they let him go.
The other thing that can't be ignored is that Ramsey has only managed three games. I believe he will go on to be a good manager - but not sure the time is right now.
My hunch is it will be Ramsey. Nothing to base that on, just a feeling.
Whoever it is, we all need to back them to give them the best chance of success.
Can't be in a position where we're looking for another manager during the season again.
Sat Jun 07, 2025 6:18 pm
MikeO76 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:JJ1927 wrote:Ramsey. Buckingham's record and experience in the UK has been massively overstated by some on this forum and represents as big a risk as Ramsey. But at least Ramsey knows the players and the club
Always said Buckingham for me.
I don't attach too much weight to PPG or stuff like that, can only work with what you've been given.
I thought Oxford played a good style under Buckingham. It worked.
He had a tough start when he took over there but once things clicked, they really clicked. May well have kept them up, we'll never known - but their fans seemed to think it was harsh when they let him go.
The other thing that can't be ignored is that Ramsey has only managed three games. I believe he will go on to be a good manager - but not sure the time is right now.
My hunch is it will be Ramsey. Nothing to base that on, just a feeling.
Whoever it is, we all need to back them to give them the best chance of success.
Can't be in a position where we're looking for another manager during the season again.
For once we agree on our manager![]()
I'd like to see Buckingham as manager but with Ramsey as a player/coach. He'll learn a lot and can pass on his vast playing experience under some world class managers onto Buckingham.
Sat Jun 07, 2025 6:21 pm
rontom wrote:I went for Ramsey; people are saying to look at Buckingham's Oxford results, which I did. Last season in the championship, he managed 18 points from 20 games. That's with a team that was a lot more balanced than the team Ramsey had in his three games. I think that if it is about these two, then Ramsey is by far the better option.
Sat Jun 07, 2025 6:24 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:JJ1927 wrote:Ramsey. Buckingham's record and experience in the UK has been massively overstated by some on this forum and represents as big a risk as Ramsey. But at least Ramsey knows the players and the club
Always said Buckingham for me.
I don't attach too much weight to PPG or stuff like that, can only work with what you've been given.
I thought Oxford played a good style under Buckingham. It worked.
He had a tough start when he took over there but once things clicked, they really clicked. May well have kept them up, we'll never known - but their fans seemed to think it was harsh when they let him go.
The other thing that can't be ignored is that Ramsey has only managed three games. I believe he will go on to be a good manager - but not sure the time is right now.
My hunch is it will be Ramsey. Nothing to base that on, just a feeling.
Whoever it is, we all need to back them to give them the best chance of success.
Can't be in a position where we're looking for another manager during the season again.
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worcester_ccfc wrote:rontom wrote:I went for Ramsey; people are saying to look at Buckingham's Oxford results, which I did. Last season in the championship, he managed 18 points from 20 games. That's with a team that was a lot more balanced than the team Ramsey had in his three games. I think that if it is about these two, then Ramsey is by far the better option.
Big difference between 20 games and three games. Obviously.
You've also left out Buckingham's promotion from League One. People can say what they want about him managing in only part of the season, but he was the manager who won the play-offs.
I believe it will be Ramsey but my worry is it's too soon for him.
Sat Jun 07, 2025 8:40 pm
rontom wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:rontom wrote:I went for Ramsey; people are saying to look at Buckingham's Oxford results, which I did. Last season in the championship, he managed 18 points from 20 games. That's with a team that was a lot more balanced than the team Ramsey had in his three games. I think that if it is about these two, then Ramsey is by far the better option.
Big difference between 20 games and three games. Obviously.
You've also left out Buckingham's promotion from League One. People can say what they want about him managing in only part of the season, but he was the manager who won the play-offs.
I believe it will be Ramsey but my worry is it's too soon for him.
When Liam Manning left Oxford, they were 2nd in the table with 32 pts from 15 matches. The figures for Des at the end of the season were 31 matches, 45 pts, and 5th in the table. If you used the average points per game for Des for the 15 matches, Manning got he would have got 10 points less and therefore would not have been promoted. I know that you cannot guarantee that, but the claim that he was solely responsible for the promotion is, in my opinion, open to question.
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rontom wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:rontom wrote:I went for Ramsey; people are saying to look at Buckingham's Oxford results, which I did. Last season in the championship, he managed 18 points from 20 games. That's with a team that was a lot more balanced than the team Ramsey had in his three games. I think that if it is about these two, then Ramsey is by far the better option.
Big difference between 20 games and three games. Obviously.
You've also left out Buckingham's promotion from League One. People can say what they want about him managing in only part of the season, but he was the manager who won the play-offs.
I believe it will be Ramsey but my worry is it's too soon for him.
When Liam Manning left Oxford, they were 2nd in the table with 32 pts from 15 matches. The figures for Des at the end of the season were 31 matches, 45 pts, and 5th in the table. If you used the average points per game for Des for the 15 matches, Manning got he would have got 10 points less and therefore would not have been promoted. I know that you cannot guarantee that, but the claim that he was solely responsible for the promotion is, in my opinion, open to question.