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" The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:14 pm

So apparently City first approached Charlton when they were in the play-off semi finals.

Charlton wanted £1m compensation but had to wait until play-offs had finished, which City were happy with.

But then because Jones' wages went up after promotion, Charlton then said they wanted £2m.

With his wages and bringing in the coaches for Jones it would have all come to about £4-5m.

Tan agreed but wanted to pay it over five years but Charlton said they wanted it all now.

City had given Charlton until 4pm today to accept the terms or they'd walk away.


So nothing was done underhand, Charlton have known about the situation since before their play-off games.

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:20 pm

Doesn't seem a very attractive deal for Charlton so I'd be surprised if they accepted City's offer.

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:20 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:So apparently City first approached Charlton when they were in the play-off semi finals.

Charlton wanted £1m compensation but had to wait until play-offs had finished, which City were happy with.

But then because Jones' wages went up after promotion, Charlton then said they wanted £2m.

With his wages and bringing in the coaches for Jones it would have all come to about £4-5m.

Tan agreed but wanted to pay it over five years but Charlton said they wanted it all now.

City had given Charlton until 4pm today to accept the terms or they'd walk away.


So nothing was done underhand, Charlton have known about the situation since before their play-off games.

Not sure jones is worth all that money tbh ? .

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:23 pm

You are virtually Spot on Ned, that exactly what virtually happened.
You can’t blame them for demanding it all upfront as that’s exactly how Tan did when we were selling Kieffer Moore to Wolves for £6.5mill so they withdrew.

When we sold Ramsey we got it all upfront.

Well We move on.

Deadline was today.

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:28 pm

Penny pinching at its best. Stepping over a tenner to pick up a pound springs to mind.

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:31 pm

Forever Blue wrote:You are virtually Spot on Ned, that exactly what virtually happened.
You can’t blame them for demanding it all upfront as that’s exactly how Tan did when we were selling Kieffer Moore to Wolves for £6.5mill so they withdrew.

When we sold Ramsey we got it all upfront.

Well We move on.

Deadline was today.


Still got 30 minutes yet :laughing6:

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:33 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:So apparently City first approached Charlton when they were in the play-off semi finals.

Charlton wanted £1m compensation but had to wait until play-offs had finished, which City were happy with.

But then because Jones' wages went up after promotion, Charlton then said they wanted £2m.

With his wages and bringing in the coaches for Jones it would have all come to about £4-5m.

Tan agreed but wanted to pay it over five years but Charlton said they wanted it all now.

City had given Charlton until 4pm today to accept the terms or they'd walk away.


So nothing was done underhand, Charlton have known about the situation since before their play-off games.



By move on what direction do you think it will be? Evatt or Buckingham or an inexperienced manager like Ramsey or Barry Murphy?

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:33 pm

wez1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:So apparently City first approached Charlton when they were in the play-off semi finals.

Charlton wanted £1m compensation but had to wait until play-offs had finished, which City were happy with.

But then because Jones' wages went up after promotion, Charlton then said they wanted £2m.

With his wages and bringing in the coaches for Jones it would have all come to about £4-5m.

Tan agreed but wanted to pay it over five years but Charlton said they wanted it all now.

City had given Charlton until 4pm today to accept the terms or they'd walk away.


So nothing was done underhand, Charlton have known about the situation since before their play-off games.

Not sure jones is worth all that money tbh ? .



Wez you’ve said that because it involves Tan.

But if he had taken us up, he would be well worth the money.

Plus more Seasin Ticket Sales / Bigger Crowds etc etc etc And the feel good factor finally back.


We now will probably get a manager with NO Real experience and will be way more costly in the long run.

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:38 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:So apparently City first approached Charlton when they were in the play-off semi finals.

Charlton wanted £1m compensation but had to wait until play-offs had finished, which City were happy with.

But then because Jones' wages went up after promotion, Charlton then said they wanted £2m.

With his wages and bringing in the coaches for Jones it would have all come to about £4-5m.

Tan agreed but wanted to pay it over five years but Charlton said they wanted it all now.

City had given Charlton until 4pm today to accept the terms or they'd walk away.


So nothing was done underhand, Charlton have known about the situation since before their play-off games.

Not sure jones is worth all that money tbh ? .



Wez you’ve said that because it involves Tan.

But if he had taken us up, he would be well worth the money.

Plus more Seasin Ticket Sales / Bigger Crowds etc etc etc And the feel good factor finally back.


We now will probably get a manager with NO Real experience and will be way more costly in the long run.

5 million for a manger? Come on annis its more than our whole season match day revenue.

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:41 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:Penny pinching at its best. Stepping over a tenner to pick up a pound springs to mind.



Let’s be honest in modern football, the manager is the most important person at the club. Tactics, team culture, recruitment, development, it all starts and ends with selecting the right Manager. You can have great players, but without a strong manager with vision and authority, it falls apart.

If we’re serious about long-term success, then we have to start treating the manager like the strategic investment he is not just another vacancy to fill. That means giving him:

Time to implement his ideas

Proper backing in the transfer market

Resources for infrastructure, staff, and scouting

Yes, it might cost more in the short term, but when you get it right and the rewards are massive:
Better performances
Increased player value
Fanbase growth
Commercial appeal
Promotion/title pushes

If the board are looking at where to invest, start with the manager. Support him properly, and we’ll be reaping the benefits for years. Short-term cuts might save money now, but they cost us more in lost potential down the line.

In modern football, you don’t build around players anymore, you build around the manager.

Just get the kin best you can, if that is what it takes for the best candidate we can get just pay it!
Last edited by Bluebina on Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:44 pm, edited 3 times in total.

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:42 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:So apparently City first approached Charlton when they were in the play-off semi finals.

Charlton wanted £1m compensation but had to wait until play-offs had finished, which City were happy with.

But then because Jones' wages went up after promotion, Charlton then said they wanted £2m.

With his wages and bringing in the coaches for Jones it would have all come to about £4-5m.

Tan agreed but wanted to pay it over five years but Charlton said they wanted it all now.

City had given Charlton until 4pm today to accept the terms or they'd walk away.


So nothing was done underhand, Charlton have known about the situation since before their play-off games.



I say thats fair all round. I wanted Nathan Jones, but I wouldn't have paid that much for him. Onto Des now and keep the money

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:43 pm

llan bluebird wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:So apparently City first approached Charlton when they were in the play-off semi finals.

Charlton wanted £1m compensation but had to wait until play-offs had finished, which City were happy with.

But then because Jones' wages went up after promotion, Charlton then said they wanted £2m.

With his wages and bringing in the coaches for Jones it would have all come to about £4-5m.

Tan agreed but wanted to pay it over five years but Charlton said they wanted it all now.

City had given Charlton until 4pm today to accept the terms or they'd walk away.


So nothing was done underhand, Charlton have known about the situation since before their play-off games.



I say thats fair all round. I wanted Nathan Jones, but I wouldn't have paid that much for him. Onto Des now and keep the money

Totally agree , its good that city were going to pay the 1 million compensation tho in tbe 1st place if this topic is true .

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:47 pm

Bluebina wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:Penny pinching at its best. Stepping over a tenner to pick up a pound springs to mind.



Let’s be honest in modern football, the manager is the most important person at the club. Tactics, team culture, recruitment, development, it all starts and ends with selecting the right Manager. You can have great players, but without a strong manager with vision and authority, it falls apart.

If we’re serious about long-term success, then we have to start treating the manager like the strategic investment he i snot just another vacancy to fill. That means giving him:

Time to implement his ideas

Proper backing in the transfer market

Resources for infrastructure, staff, and scouting

Yes, it might cost more in the short term, but when you get it right and the rewards are massive:
Better performances
Increased player value
Fanbase growth
Commercial appeal
Promotion/title pushes

If the board are looking at where to invest, start with the manager. Support him properly, and we’ll be reaping the benefits for years. Short-term cuts might save money now, but they cost us more in lost potential down the line.

In modern football, you don’t build around players anymore, you build around the manager.

Just get the kin best you can, if thata what it takes for the best candidate we can get just pay it!


The average tenure in the championship (i know) was 9 months. It's why they have DoF's as they control most of those activites and are much longer in the role. You see if the head coach can get a tune out of the group, if not move them on and get someone else in.

I believe Tan wants an old-school general manager to run the football side, and Jones would have been perfect, but not at any cost.

This may cost Charlton because if they are doing poorly next season, then they lose the £2 mill and have to pay him another £1 mill.

We

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:48 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:So apparently City first approached Charlton when they were in the play-off semi finals.

Charlton wanted £1m compensation but had to wait until play-offs had finished, which City were happy with.

But then because Jones' wages went up after promotion, Charlton then said they wanted £2m.

With his wages and bringing in the coaches for Jones it would have all come to about £4-5m.

Tan agreed but wanted to pay it over five years but Charlton said they wanted it all now.

City had given Charlton until 4pm today to accept the terms or they'd walk away.


So nothing was done underhand, Charlton have known about the situation since before their play-off games.

Not sure jones is worth all that money tbh ? .



Wez you’ve said that because it involves Tan.

But if he had taken us up, he would be well worth the money.

Plus more Seasin Ticket Sales / Bigger Crowds etc etc etc And the feel good factor finally back.


We now will probably get a manager with NO Real experience and will be way more costly in the long run.

5 million for a manger? Come on annis its more than our whole season match day revenue.



OK don't pay for a decent Manager and instead waste a shed load of money on the wrong players, then more again on the replacement Manager at Christmas, then more again on over priced players in January, then more again at the end of the season when they appoint another Manager.

I'm not saying he should definitely be the one, but whoever has gone though the recrutment process with the highest scores and best opportunty to succeed should be appointed, even if they cost five times more.

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:51 pm

llan bluebird wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:Penny pinching at its best. Stepping over a tenner to pick up a pound springs to mind.



Let’s be honest in modern football, the manager is the most important person at the club. Tactics, team culture, recruitment, development, it all starts and ends with selecting the right Manager. You can have great players, but without a strong manager with vision and authority, it falls apart.

If we’re serious about long-term success, then we have to start treating the manager like the strategic investment he i snot just another vacancy to fill. That means giving him:

Time to implement his ideas

Proper backing in the transfer market

Resources for infrastructure, staff, and scouting

Yes, it might cost more in the short term, but when you get it right and the rewards are massive:
Better performances
Increased player value
Fanbase growth
Commercial appeal
Promotion/title pushes

If the board are looking at where to invest, start with the manager. Support him properly, and we’ll be reaping the benefits for years. Short-term cuts might save money now, but they cost us more in lost potential down the line.

In modern football, you don’t build around players anymore, you build around the manager.

Just get the kin best you can, if thata what it takes for the best candidate we can get just pay it!


The average tenure in the championship (i know) was 9 months. It's why they have DoF's as they control most of those activites and are much longer in the role. You see if the head coach can get a tune out of the group, if not move them on and get someone else in.

I believe Tan wants an old-school general manager to run the football side, and Jones would have been perfect, but not at any cost.

This may cost Charlton because if they are doing poorly next season, then they lose the £2 mill and have to pay him another £1 mill.

We


Good point, he is on a hiding to nothing there and we all know how many bottom half Managers get sacked during the season. I bet he would loved to have come, but they have made it difficult. I suppose if he gets enough points to keep them up, they will have done well by pricing him out of the move.

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:57 pm

A package of 5m compensation plus then the salaries is not reasonable. 1m was fair enough.

Now get someone in who is next on the list now

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:00 pm

The CIRCUS continues

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:03 pm

boyo1927 wrote:A package of 5m compensation plus then the salaries is not reasonable. 1m was fair enough.

Now get someone in who is next on the list now

:thumbup: :bluescarf:

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:03 pm

Give that couple of million to a manager to spend.

Hopefully Des.

He will get us some decent players for that although he specialises in improving what is there.

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:06 pm

Jesus if we can afford 5mi for Jones we could get better anyway.

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:08 pm

Sneggybluebird wrote:Jesus if we can afford 5mi for Jones we could get better anyway.



Its so Cardiff. Penny pinched in the championship, but willing to flash the cash to get back into the championship !!!!

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:13 pm

Wow, that’s a lot of money.. seeing we still paying off Bullut as well no wonder they trying to sort a deal.
Think Tan cannot be slagged off for thi
Move on..

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:23 pm

So the sticking point is just the payment schedule?

Get a loan. :lol:

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:27 pm

and where does all this 8nfo come from. we all know how tight lipped the club is over detail so how come the itk crowd are party to these details. seems to me whenever someone posts something Annie says he's heard the same. ban me see if I give a flying f**k fed up with allvthe bullshit

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:31 pm

I'm sure Nathan could force the situation if he needed to ?.
The same as Keifer did to us

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:32 pm

so tans got 4m to spend even if spread over 4 years. give Ramsey the job and the 4m no brainer.

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:35 pm

Give the job to Buckingham and back him…

Has experience, plays good football, apparently excellent with young player development.

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:41 pm

Not long till pre season training starts. No rush then. Doh!

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:43 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:So apparently City first approached Charlton when they were in the play-off semi finals.

Charlton wanted £1m compensation but had to wait until play-offs had finished, which City were happy with.

But then because Jones' wages went up after promotion, Charlton then said they wanted £2m.

With his wages and bringing in the coaches for Jones it would have all come to about £4-5m.

Tan agreed but wanted to pay it over five years but Charlton said they wanted it all now.

City had given Charlton until 4pm today to accept the terms or they'd walk away.


So nothing was done underhand, Charlton have known about the situation since before their play-off games.

Not sure jones is worth all that money tbh ? .



Wez you’ve said that because it involves Tan.

But if he had taken us up, he would be well worth the money.

Plus more Seasin Ticket Sales / Bigger Crowds etc etc etc And the feel good factor finally back.


We now will probably get a manager with NO Real experience and will be way more costly in the long run.

5 million for a manger? Come on annis its more than our whole season match day revenue.


Might be the first thing I agree with Wez on. That’s way too much for Jones. It’s not like he’s going to guarantee promotion. He’s been a success twice and failed twice. The only worry is who else are we going to turn to.

Re: " The truth about the Nathan Jones rumours "

Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:44 pm

That’s a big chunk to give for a Manager.

Yes, it could be wise but in reality.
We have a quick manager turnaround and spending that would be a waste.

I think he’s the best experienced though.
I just fancy the Des (or evatt with a plan b)And some decent footy to watch!