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worcester_ccfc wrote:So apparently City first approached Charlton when they were in the play-off semi finals.
Charlton wanted £1m compensation but had to wait until play-offs had finished, which City were happy with.
But then because Jones' wages went up after promotion, Charlton then said they wanted £2m.
With his wages and bringing in the coaches for Jones it would have all come to about £4-5m.
Tan agreed but wanted to pay it over five years but Charlton said they wanted it all now.
City had given Charlton until 4pm today to accept the terms or they'd walk away.
So nothing was done underhand, Charlton have known about the situation since before their play-off games.
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Forever Blue wrote:You are virtually Spot on Ned, that exactly what virtually happened.
You can’t blame them for demanding it all upfront as that’s exactly how Tan did when we were selling Kieffer Moore to Wolves for £6.5mill so they withdrew.
When we sold Ramsey we got it all upfront.
Well We move on.
Deadline was today.
Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:33 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:So apparently City first approached Charlton when they were in the play-off semi finals.
Charlton wanted £1m compensation but had to wait until play-offs had finished, which City were happy with.
But then because Jones' wages went up after promotion, Charlton then said they wanted £2m.
With his wages and bringing in the coaches for Jones it would have all come to about £4-5m.
Tan agreed but wanted to pay it over five years but Charlton said they wanted it all now.
City had given Charlton until 4pm today to accept the terms or they'd walk away.
So nothing was done underhand, Charlton have known about the situation since before their play-off games.
Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:33 pm
wez1927 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:So apparently City first approached Charlton when they were in the play-off semi finals.
Charlton wanted £1m compensation but had to wait until play-offs had finished, which City were happy with.
But then because Jones' wages went up after promotion, Charlton then said they wanted £2m.
With his wages and bringing in the coaches for Jones it would have all come to about £4-5m.
Tan agreed but wanted to pay it over five years but Charlton said they wanted it all now.
City had given Charlton until 4pm today to accept the terms or they'd walk away.
So nothing was done underhand, Charlton have known about the situation since before their play-off games.
Not sure jones is worth all that money tbh ? .
Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:38 pm
Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:So apparently City first approached Charlton when they were in the play-off semi finals.
Charlton wanted £1m compensation but had to wait until play-offs had finished, which City were happy with.
But then because Jones' wages went up after promotion, Charlton then said they wanted £2m.
With his wages and bringing in the coaches for Jones it would have all come to about £4-5m.
Tan agreed but wanted to pay it over five years but Charlton said they wanted it all now.
City had given Charlton until 4pm today to accept the terms or they'd walk away.
So nothing was done underhand, Charlton have known about the situation since before their play-off games.
Not sure jones is worth all that money tbh ? .
Wez you’ve said that because it involves Tan.
But if he had taken us up, he would be well worth the money.
Plus more Seasin Ticket Sales / Bigger Crowds etc etc etc And the feel good factor finally back.
We now will probably get a manager with NO Real experience and will be way more costly in the long run.
Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:41 pm
Welshman in CA wrote:Penny pinching at its best. Stepping over a tenner to pick up a pound springs to mind.
Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:42 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:So apparently City first approached Charlton when they were in the play-off semi finals.
Charlton wanted £1m compensation but had to wait until play-offs had finished, which City were happy with.
But then because Jones' wages went up after promotion, Charlton then said they wanted £2m.
With his wages and bringing in the coaches for Jones it would have all come to about £4-5m.
Tan agreed but wanted to pay it over five years but Charlton said they wanted it all now.
City had given Charlton until 4pm today to accept the terms or they'd walk away.
So nothing was done underhand, Charlton have known about the situation since before their play-off games.
Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:43 pm
llan bluebird wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:So apparently City first approached Charlton when they were in the play-off semi finals.
Charlton wanted £1m compensation but had to wait until play-offs had finished, which City were happy with.
But then because Jones' wages went up after promotion, Charlton then said they wanted £2m.
With his wages and bringing in the coaches for Jones it would have all come to about £4-5m.
Tan agreed but wanted to pay it over five years but Charlton said they wanted it all now.
City had given Charlton until 4pm today to accept the terms or they'd walk away.
So nothing was done underhand, Charlton have known about the situation since before their play-off games.
I say thats fair all round. I wanted Nathan Jones, but I wouldn't have paid that much for him. Onto Des now and keep the money
Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:47 pm
Bluebina wrote:Welshman in CA wrote:Penny pinching at its best. Stepping over a tenner to pick up a pound springs to mind.
Let’s be honest in modern football, the manager is the most important person at the club. Tactics, team culture, recruitment, development, it all starts and ends with selecting the right Manager. You can have great players, but without a strong manager with vision and authority, it falls apart.
If we’re serious about long-term success, then we have to start treating the manager like the strategic investment he i snot just another vacancy to fill. That means giving him:
Time to implement his ideas
Proper backing in the transfer market
Resources for infrastructure, staff, and scouting
Yes, it might cost more in the short term, but when you get it right and the rewards are massive:
Better performances
Increased player value
Fanbase growth
Commercial appeal
Promotion/title pushes
If the board are looking at where to invest, start with the manager. Support him properly, and we’ll be reaping the benefits for years. Short-term cuts might save money now, but they cost us more in lost potential down the line.
In modern football, you don’t build around players anymore, you build around the manager.
Just get the kin best you can, if thata what it takes for the best candidate we can get just pay it!
Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:48 pm
wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:So apparently City first approached Charlton when they were in the play-off semi finals.
Charlton wanted £1m compensation but had to wait until play-offs had finished, which City were happy with.
But then because Jones' wages went up after promotion, Charlton then said they wanted £2m.
With his wages and bringing in the coaches for Jones it would have all come to about £4-5m.
Tan agreed but wanted to pay it over five years but Charlton said they wanted it all now.
City had given Charlton until 4pm today to accept the terms or they'd walk away.
So nothing was done underhand, Charlton have known about the situation since before their play-off games.
Not sure jones is worth all that money tbh ? .
Wez you’ve said that because it involves Tan.
But if he had taken us up, he would be well worth the money.
Plus more Seasin Ticket Sales / Bigger Crowds etc etc etc And the feel good factor finally back.
We now will probably get a manager with NO Real experience and will be way more costly in the long run.
5 million for a manger? Come on annis its more than our whole season match day revenue.
Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:51 pm
llan bluebird wrote:Bluebina wrote:Welshman in CA wrote:Penny pinching at its best. Stepping over a tenner to pick up a pound springs to mind.
Let’s be honest in modern football, the manager is the most important person at the club. Tactics, team culture, recruitment, development, it all starts and ends with selecting the right Manager. You can have great players, but without a strong manager with vision and authority, it falls apart.
If we’re serious about long-term success, then we have to start treating the manager like the strategic investment he i snot just another vacancy to fill. That means giving him:
Time to implement his ideas
Proper backing in the transfer market
Resources for infrastructure, staff, and scouting
Yes, it might cost more in the short term, but when you get it right and the rewards are massive:
Better performances
Increased player value
Fanbase growth
Commercial appeal
Promotion/title pushes
If the board are looking at where to invest, start with the manager. Support him properly, and we’ll be reaping the benefits for years. Short-term cuts might save money now, but they cost us more in lost potential down the line.
In modern football, you don’t build around players anymore, you build around the manager.
Just get the kin best you can, if thata what it takes for the best candidate we can get just pay it!
The average tenure in the championship (i know) was 9 months. It's why they have DoF's as they control most of those activites and are much longer in the role. You see if the head coach can get a tune out of the group, if not move them on and get someone else in.
I believe Tan wants an old-school general manager to run the football side, and Jones would have been perfect, but not at any cost.
This may cost Charlton because if they are doing poorly next season, then they lose the £2 mill and have to pay him another £1 mill.
We
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boyo1927 wrote:A package of 5m compensation plus then the salaries is not reasonable. 1m was fair enough.
Now get someone in who is next on the list now
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Sneggybluebird wrote:Jesus if we can afford 5mi for Jones we could get better anyway.
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wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:So apparently City first approached Charlton when they were in the play-off semi finals.
Charlton wanted £1m compensation but had to wait until play-offs had finished, which City were happy with.
But then because Jones' wages went up after promotion, Charlton then said they wanted £2m.
With his wages and bringing in the coaches for Jones it would have all come to about £4-5m.
Tan agreed but wanted to pay it over five years but Charlton said they wanted it all now.
City had given Charlton until 4pm today to accept the terms or they'd walk away.
So nothing was done underhand, Charlton have known about the situation since before their play-off games.
Not sure jones is worth all that money tbh ? .
Wez you’ve said that because it involves Tan.
But if he had taken us up, he would be well worth the money.
Plus more Seasin Ticket Sales / Bigger Crowds etc etc etc And the feel good factor finally back.
We now will probably get a manager with NO Real experience and will be way more costly in the long run.
5 million for a manger? Come on annis its more than our whole season match day revenue.
Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:44 pm