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People need to lower their expectations

Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:35 pm

I think some people need to lower their expectations in terms of the players/manager we bring in.

We're a League One club now.

I've seen some put forward names for the new manager - Steve Cooper, Neil Warnock, Nathan Jones, Slaven Bilic.

That's just not realistic in League One.

Warnock is ancient and probably doesn't want a full job time anyway - but Tan will never appoint him again. That's one of the only things I agree with Tan about, and he has his reasons.

Nathan Jones will be in the play-offs with Charlton and they'll have a decent chance of winning them. Then he'll be back in the Championship.

Bilic and Cooper are just totally unrealistic.



I said after the game that we need a manager with League One experience and I stand by that. It is a very different league to the Championship.

Re: People need to lower their expectations

Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:45 pm

That said IF we are going to bounce straight back, we should be poaching managers.

Nathan Jones should be first on the list if Charlton stay down.

Steve Bruce is plying his trade in League One as well, not saying he is a fit for us, but we should be poaching not hiring out of work managers.

Re: People need to lower their expectations

Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:04 pm

Wayne S wrote:That said IF we are going to bounce straight back, we should be poaching managers.

Nathan Jones should be first on the list if Charlton stay down.

Steve Bruce is plying his trade in League One as well, not saying he is a fit for us, but we should be poaching not hiring out of work managers.


Will tan pay compo to a club for their manager?

Re: People need to lower their expectations

Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:20 pm

unfortunately i dont have any expectation that the board will get it right theyve failed so far fighting relegation after relegation this should have happened a few seasons ago we got lucky with reading

Re: People need to lower their expectations

Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:29 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Wayne S wrote:That said IF we are going to bounce straight back, we should be poaching managers.

Nathan Jones should be first on the list if Charlton stay down.

Steve Bruce is plying his trade in League One as well, not saying he is a fit for us, but we should be poaching not hiring out of work managers.


Will tan pay compo to a club for their manager?


Nope.

We are all playing hypotheticals.

I cannot remember the last time we paid up for another teams manager...... was it Ole?

Re: People need to lower their expectations

Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:40 pm

Wouldn’t mind seeing Phil Parkinson in the dug out IF Wrexham were to let him go

Re: People need to lower their expectations

Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:37 pm

100 percent need to lower expectations with the current way the clubs being run. My prediction is they will stall and stall , choo gets a few car sales done fk knows what Mehmets doing. Then they will announce Purse with Riza as number 2.

Re: People need to lower their expectations

Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:15 pm

All these rumours are pointless as if Tan has anything to do with it. We will appoint a cheap option and the downward spiral continues.

Re: People need to lower their expectations

Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:31 pm

Look what Birmingham did with Chris Davies, he hadn't coached in league 1 before but they did their homework and got a top assistant manager, ready to step up and who had worked underneath some very experienced managers.

I'd just really like us to do a proper professional job for once and select the right man for our holistic plan, if we have one E.g. If the club strategy is around developing young players then get a coach that would fit the remit.

Call it totally unrealistic but I'd like to go for O'Neil. Why not be ambitious, we have to turn around this sinking ship. Hes an explayer and may like the build project that would establish him as a top coach.
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Re: People need to lower their expectations

Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:32 pm

Underhill1927 wrote:All these rumours are pointless as if Tan has anything to do with it. We will appoint a cheap option and the downward spiral continues.


Sadly spot on.

We should be looking at someone like Des Buckingham but we'll end up with someone closer to Des O'Connor.

Re: People need to lower their expectations

Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:47 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
Underhill1927 wrote:All these rumours are pointless as if Tan has anything to do with it. We will appoint a cheap option and the downward spiral continues.


Sadly spot on.

We should be looking at someone like Des Buckingham but we'll end up with someone closer to Des O'Connor.


Ha ha could rally the troops with a few upbeat songs

Re: People need to lower their expectations

Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:14 pm

I would take Gary O'Neill,or Ryan mason two young managers or Dave challinor?? what you all think??

Re: People need to lower their expectations

Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:55 pm

CantonBluebird1927 wrote:100 percent need to lower expectations with the current way the clubs being run. My prediction is they will stall and stall , choo gets a few car sales done fk knows what Mehmets doing. Then they will announce Purse with Riza as number 2.


;)

Re: People need to lower their expectations

Wed Apr 30, 2025 10:06 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:
CantonBluebird1927 wrote:100 percent need to lower expectations with the current way the clubs being run. My prediction is they will stall and stall , choo gets a few car sales done fk knows what Mehmets doing. Then they will announce Purse with Riza as number 2.


;)


Unfortunately that’s my expectation levels and we got to be honest who would want to come here it’s a horrible job with the current regime. There’s jacks laughing that our hero took us down too I know there clueless and uneducated and inbred etc but still annoying to read it . Rambo only had 3 games and no time to plan ffs.

Re: People need to lower their expectations

Wed Apr 30, 2025 10:07 pm

ORCHARD BLUEBIRD wrote:I would take Gary O'Neill,or Ryan mason two young managers or Dave challinor?? what you all think??


I would in an ideal world with owners that care mate

Re: People need to lower their expectations

Wed Apr 30, 2025 10:26 pm

CantonBluebird1927 wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:
CantonBluebird1927 wrote:100 percent need to lower expectations with the current way the clubs being run. My prediction is they will stall and stall , choo gets a few car sales done fk knows what Mehmets doing. Then they will announce Purse with Riza as number 2.


;)


Unfortunately that’s my expectation levels and we got to be honest who would want to come here it’s a horrible job with the current regime. There’s jacks laughing that our hero took us down too I know there clueless and uneducated and inbred etc but still annoying to read it . Rambo only had 3 games and no time to plan ffs.


Spot On .

Re: People need to lower their expectations

Thu May 01, 2025 6:32 am

Think we can all expect high expectations after that statement from Tan.

We are about to see how sincere he is.

Re: People need to lower their expectations

Thu May 01, 2025 7:53 am

People are forgetting one thing. Despite what's going on at the moment we are a big club in this league and that will be an attractive option for a lot of managers. When you look at who we are playing there's only one or two clubs of note and to think our biggest games of the season could be against Luton and Plymouth. Whoever they take on he will know there's only one aim and no excuses or he'll be out by November.

Re: People need to lower their expectations

Thu May 01, 2025 8:34 am

A club with ambition would go for (someone like) Nathan Jones even if Charlton go up.

The decision ultimately lies with Nathan Jones.

I agree we should right-size expectations, but we should also demand promotion at the first attempt. The fanbase has a big part to play, regardless who owns/manages/etc. Our recent downfall has negatively re-calibrated us and accepting some mediocre players just because others are significantly worse.

Reset time.

Re: People need to lower their expectations

Thu May 01, 2025 9:26 am

If my expectations get any lower I may as well be a jack.

Nathan Jones should of been the man a long time ago.

Re: People need to lower their expectations

Thu May 01, 2025 11:12 am

I'd take Paul Warne he's had 3 promotions from league 1 and was able to deal with the pressure and expectations at Derby. He may not have a great record in the championship but primary goal has to be going back up.
I know he's only recently joined MK Dons but still believe we're big enough to poach a manager from them