People need to lower their expectations

I think some people need to lower their expectations in terms of the players/manager we bring in.

We're a League One club now.

I've seen some put forward names for the new manager - Steve Cooper, Neil Warnock, Nathan Jones, Slaven Bilic.

That's just not realistic in League One.

Warnock is ancient and probably doesn't want a full job time anyway - but Tan will never appoint him again. That's one of the only things I agree with Tan about, and he has his reasons.

Nathan Jones will be in the play-offs with Charlton and they'll have a decent chance of winning them. Then he'll be back in the Championship.

Bilic and Cooper are just totally unrealistic.



I said after the game that we need a manager with League One experience and I stand by that. It is a very different league to the Championship.

That said IF we are going to bounce straight back, we should be poaching managers.

Nathan Jones should be first on the list if Charlton stay down.

Steve Bruce is plying his trade in League One as well, not saying he is a fit for us, but we should be poaching not hiring out of work managers.

That said IF we are going to bounce straight back, we should be poaching managers.

Nathan Jones should be first on the list if Charlton stay down.

Steve Bruce is plying his trade in League One as well, not saying he is a fit for us, but we should be poaching not hiring out of work managers.

Will tan pay compo to a club for their manager?

unfortunately i dont have any expectation that the board will get it right theyve failed so far fighting relegation after relegation this should have happened a few seasons ago we got lucky with reading

That said IF we are going to bounce straight back, we should be poaching managers.

Nathan Jones should be first on the list if Charlton stay down.

Steve Bruce is plying his trade in League One as well, not saying he is a fit for us, but we should be poaching not hiring out of work managers.

Will tan pay compo to a club for their manager?

Nope.

We are all playing hypotheticals.

I cannot remember the last time we paid up for another teams manager...... was it Ole?

Wouldn’t mind seeing Phil Parkinson in the dug out IF Wrexham were to let him go

100 percent need to lower expectations with the current way the clubs being run. My prediction is they will stall and stall , choo gets a few car sales done fk knows what Mehmets doing. Then they will announce Purse with Riza as number 2.

All these rumours are pointless as if Tan has anything to do with it. We will appoint a cheap option and the downward spiral continues.

Look what Birmingham did with Chris Davies, he hadn't coached in league 1 before but they did their homework and got a top assistant manager, ready to step up and who had worked underneath some very experienced managers.

I'd just really like us to do a proper professional job for once and select the right man for our holistic plan, if we have one E.g. If the club strategy is around developing young players then get a coach that would fit the remit.

Call it totally unrealistic but I'd like to go for O'Neil. Why not be ambitious, we have to turn around this sinking ship. Hes an explayer and may like the build project that would establish him as a top coach.

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All these rumours are pointless as if Tan has anything to do with it. We will appoint a cheap option and the downward spiral continues.

Sadly spot on.

We should be looking at someone like Des Buckingham but we'll end up with someone closer to Des O'Connor.

All these rumours are pointless as if Tan has anything to do with it. We will appoint a cheap option and the downward spiral continues.

Sadly spot on.

We should be looking at someone like Des Buckingham but we'll end up with someone closer to Des O'Connor.

Ha ha could rally the troops with a few upbeat songs

I would take Gary O'Neill,or Ryan mason two young managers or Dave challinor?? what you all think??

100 percent need to lower expectations with the current way the clubs being run. My prediction is they will stall and stall , choo gets a few car sales done fk knows what Mehmets doing. Then they will announce Purse with Riza as number 2.

100 percent need to lower expectations with the current way the clubs being run. My prediction is they will stall and stall , choo gets a few car sales done fk knows what Mehmets doing. Then they will announce Purse with Riza as number 2.

Unfortunately that’s my expectation levels and we got to be honest who would want to come here it’s a horrible job with the current regime. There’s jacks laughing that our hero took us down too I know there clueless and uneducated and inbred etc but still annoying to read it . Rambo only had 3 games and no time to plan ffs.

I would take Gary O'Neill,or Ryan mason two young managers or Dave challinor?? what you all think??

I would in an ideal world with owners that care mate

100 percent need to lower expectations with the current way the clubs being run. My prediction is they will stall and stall , choo gets a few car sales done fk knows what Mehmets doing. Then they will announce Purse with Riza as number 2.

Unfortunately that’s my expectation levels and we got to be honest who would want to come here it’s a horrible job with the current regime. There’s jacks laughing that our hero took us down too I know there clueless and uneducated and inbred etc but still annoying to read it . Rambo only had 3 games and no time to plan ffs.

Spot On .

Think we can all expect high expectations after that statement from Tan.

We are about to see how sincere he is.

People are forgetting one thing. Despite what's going on at the moment we are a big club in this league and that will be an attractive option for a lot of managers. When you look at who we are playing there's only one or two clubs of note and to think our biggest games of the season could be against Luton and Plymouth. Whoever they take on he will know there's only one aim and no excuses or he'll be out by November.

A club with ambition would go for (someone like) Nathan Jones even if Charlton go up.

The decision ultimately lies with Nathan Jones.

I agree we should right-size expectations, but we should also demand promotion at the first attempt. The fanbase has a big part to play, regardless who owns/manages/etc. Our recent downfall has negatively re-calibrated us and accepting some mediocre players just because others are significantly worse.

Reset time.

If my expectations get any lower I may as well be a jack.

Nathan Jones should of been the man a long time ago.

I'd take Paul Warne he's had 3 promotions from league 1 and was able to deal with the pressure and expectations at Derby. He may not have a great record in the championship but primary goal has to be going back up.
I know he's only recently joined MK Dons but still believe we're big enough to poach a manager from them

If my expectations get any lower I may as well be a jack.

Nathan Jones should of been the man a long time ago.

I only Agree with the last line

According to someone who knows Nathan Jones well..he would almost certainly take the job if offered regardless of whether Charlton get promoted

Now Tan has a chance to get this appointment right and get the fans back on side

Jones as Manager with his choice of assistant, Gunter and Ramsey involved in coaching and most importantly some sort of DOF to oversee the day to day running of club

I do understand the OP and to some extent I agree with it.

But yesterday I posted, on a different thread, that bottom end EPL managers are presently on £1m per year which is the equivalent of around £19k per week and herein lies my question.

As a club we are quite prepared to pay £20k or more for a player but we are not prepared to pay it for a manager and I think this is not good sense.

This year, according to some respected websites, we had twelve players earning more than £15k per week and, for me, I would have preferred to lose one of those players and to allocate those funds towards a top Championship manager.

Had we done that, and with the players we had, I honestly think we could and perhaps should have been a top 6 team.

So, in Division 1, I think we should adopt the same process. Get rid of an extra player and put the funds towards getting a good manager

I do understand the OP and to some extent I agree with it.

But yesterday I posted, on a different thread, that bottom end EPL managers are presently on £1m per year which is the equivalent of around £19k per week and herein lies my question.

As a club we are quite prepared to pay £20k or more for a player but we are not prepared to pay it for a manager and I think this is not good sense.

This year, according to some respected websites, we had twelve players earning more than £15k per week and, for me, I would have preferred to lose one of those players and to allocate those funds towards a top Championship manager.

Had we done that, and with the players we had, I honestly think we could and perhaps should have been a top 6 team.

So, in Division 1, I think we should adopt the same process. Get rid of an extra player and put the funds towards getting a good manager

A player could quite easily get injured. A manager does not get injured.

Its why players are on more than a manager. Its a strange business the football world. I don't recall being on more money than my boss.

It is a strange business and yes very unusual.

The fact that a player could get injured is, in my opinion, another reason why we should invest in a decent manager. We could end up paying £15k a week on someone who is not even playing - yet the manager, good or bad, will be there every week.

A good manager will get the best out of the younger crop of players - and I think a really good manager is what we need right now.

I think we need to set a stall out. Employ someone good and high profile which says to the supporters, and other teams, that we intend going up as Champions and that, in turn, will attract players from higher up wanting to be part of the adventure

I would take Gary O'Neill,or Ryan mason two young managers or Dave challinor?? what you all think??

O’Neill was dreadful at Wolves, they’re so much better since they moved on.

Unfortunately, I can imagine the same if he came here. It’s a no from me.

I would take Gary O'Neill,or Ryan mason two young managers or Dave challinor?? what you all think??

O’Neill was dreadful at Wolves, they’re so much better since they moved on.

Unfortunately, I can imagine the same if he came here. It’s a no from me.

O'Neil's Wolves were asset stripped and then injuries on top. He was pissing into the wind.

Personally, I don't think it's the money but rather the length of the contracts on offer. We are already one of the top payers in terms of wages for players & I'm not convinced that we don't offer managers good money but a much shorter contract & that is where we fall down. Of course this is just my opinion.

How about former Luton boss Rob Edwards ?
Great in working with Luton and how they got promoted with them so who knows maybe he might come to us.