OUR FANS

I've always thought our fans were the best in the world. The last few months and plenty of talks with Annis and others have shown me firstly what a fickle bunch we are and secondly how some act like children In a school playground.

I've heard of various groups/ social media pages where it was suggested 'let's go along and laugh at the protesters when they only get a few hundred' and 'take pictures, so we can all see and have a laugh'.

Those who talk about non unity and getting together, pulling together; backing the club? It is YOU that is tearing the club apart and not those who are brave enough to put their head above the parapet and say NO to Tan.

If you want Tan, then you don't deserve a football club. He has turned us into anything but football club. And yet he stays.

You respect those who stick by principals and can back up those arguments. To hear fans wanting to march with gusto, then radically oppose it because Riza gets sacked ( and make childish fun of those who feel we still need to ride ourselves of Tan) and then... when we Don't beat such a poor Oxford side, be asking to march and protest again!!

If you all want a group that can organise and protest, it will take time. We have a great core of guys who all have the same agenda organising thousands is a hefty job. Promoting same is a huge headache. We will do it, but we need everyone's support.

We all have other jobs, other issues and other life events going on. We will do our best, we need patience. We are open to criticism of course, but playground banter and childish behaviour has got to stop.

If you feel the club is better off with Tan then support us. If you feel that the club is better off WITH Tan you have a right to those mature views.

We will never be united as supporters with Tan deliberately and cunningly dividing us.

I and the others on our committee are no Annis Abrahams. He was, is and always will be synonymous as being a Cardiff City fan leader. He too needs some time with his family. Some time to be a normal every day Cardiff City fan.

We want 100/500/5000 people with Annis' passion. Maybe then we can be proud of our match day support once again.

Patience please. Support is vital. Let's STOP this playground childish antics that continue to divide us and rid ourselves of the man who's aim is to divide and conquer, widen that chasm of unity.

Don't be with me, don't support me. Be with US. Support the team, support unity, let's get our fan base back.

We’ve always been divided but social media and message boards makes it worse.

Everyone has the right to protest or not protest but some on here calling others not true fans for not wanting to protest doesn’t help. It works both ways.

I dislike Vincent Tan with a deep passion and would like nothing better than seeing him leave but in my opinion protests aren’t the way to go about it. He doesn’t give a monkeys.

I sadly don’t have an answer, he’s so stubborn that I think he’ll only leave on his terms so I’m not sure there is anything we can do but support the team and hope his Mother has another heart to heart with him.

Opinions are all part of social media and society in general.

Childish bickering is what Tan wants and needs to stay in power.

All protests do is give a statement of how the fans feel. They usually happen when things are going bad like they are for us. Its the only way the fans can express their opinions to the club and in my view are needed in such times.

Anyone opposing such protests you can only presume they are happy with the way the club is going.

Opinions are all part of social media and society in general.

Childish bickering is what Tan wants and needs to stay in power.

Agreed mate but social media gives those people a platform.

All protests do is give a statement of how the fans feel. They usually happen when things are going bad like they are for us. Its the only way the fans can express their opinions to the club and in my view are needed in such times.

Anyone opposing such protests you can only presume they are happy with the way the club is going.

Tan knows how we feel mate. He has since he took over, he just doesn’t give a monkeys.

Jonny. In the main I agree with most you say, but I see some irony that you are taking a stab at others who didn’t turn up and support you protest. I don’t see how that is mature and how it’s going to help increase support in the future. Your 100% right it’s what tan wants split fans and you are going some way to playing into his hands.
I had a look on the other board there was a wide range of views. Some seemed genuinely gutted they didn’t know about the protest as they felt they weren’t included. So were against it some confused at what the goal is. So as mentioned just wanted to point and laugh.
It maybe that we got the it wrong about how the majority of Cardiff fans feel. There were 20k there yesterday where are they voices and opinions, on here There a some true Cardiff fans here I’d say about 40-50 regular posters which is a small number compared to the actual bums on seats are we here a long way off the thoughts of the average payin fan, which is exactly what Tan wants.
I don’t know what the answer is but it seems it’s going to be very difficult to unify everyone.
Maybe the organiser need to start from scratch again over the close season with more time to organise and spread the word.
Maybe plan with one main goal in mind , then brainstorm for ideas, then formulate different solutions, take a survey of which solutions are supported by the fans, use a gantt chart to organise and keep to timelines and allocate different responsibilities to different people, so it’s a group collective.

This turned out to be longer than I thought.

I believe many fans overestimate the commitment to the club for the majority of our fans.

Nobody wants to join the trust, lead the trust, its the same with the FAB.

One gentile section of the forum world writes a strongly worded letter to the board, then apologises. This board scoffs. This one hurriedly arranges a demo, the other scoffs, but we are talking about individuals, not the masses.

I don't do twitter, insta, tictoc so can't comment on what happens there.

I rock up to the city with my daughter, don't know the team until i sit down, have no idea who plays for the opposition (I'll know even less next season), watch the game, have an opinion, vent or celebrate, sometimes meet up at the pub, talk about the game, go home, log on here, talk about the game, players, tactics......Get on with life until i repeat the cycle.

The sad truth for me is i don't care about the politics, the ownership, i'd rather not be in L1 but the Premier League. wasn't all that either.

I know to some of you having the largest attendance, biggest stand, brighest floodlights, etc, matters, but it doesn't for me.

The trains meant I never demonstrated yesterday, and I applaud those who did. You have that right, but the 20K who didn't protest yesterday are not necessarily supporting the regime; they just don't care as much as you do about that stuff. When they do they'll stop going

I believe many fans overestimate the commitment to the club for the majority of our fans.

Nobody wants to join the trust, lead the trust, its the same with the FAB.

One gentile section of the forum world writes a strongly worded letter to the board, then apologises. This board scoffs. This one hurriedly arranges a demo, the other scoffs, but we are talking about individuals, not the masses.

I don't do twitter, insta, tictoc so can't comment on what happens there.

I rock up to the city with my daughter, don't know the team until i sit down, have no idea who plays for the opposition (I'll know even less next season), watch the game, have an opinion, vent or celebrate, sometimes meet up at the pub, talk about the game, go home, log on here, talk about the game, players, tactics......Get on with life until i repeat the cycle.

The sad truth for me is i don't care about the politics, the ownership, i'd rather not be in L1 but the Premier League. wasn't all that either.

I know to some of you having the largest attendance, biggest stand, brighest floodlights, etc, matters, but it doesn't for me.

The trains meant I never demonstrated yesterday, and I applaud those who did. You have that right, but the 20K who didn't protest yesterday are not necessarily supporting the regime; they just don't care as much as you do about that stuff. When they do they'll stop going

I would say you are not far off the mark there.

I'll always admit to mistakes, and I don't think here I am pointing the finger at those who didn't protest. If it appeared that way it was unintentional.

My post is meant to show how our support changes with the wind from let's protest, to we mustn't protest and back again.

Opinions are opinions. That's fine, live and let live. Resorting to childish name calling and deliberately splitting the fans based on opinion is what is killing us.

Join or don't join a protest is OK. I'll make sure that I try not todivide fans on opinion because when we are inside watching the team we all have goal. Enjoyment, excitement and hopefully three points.

Jonny,

I agree with a lot of what you have said and respect for trying to push the movement.

What I don’t agree with though, is you saying that the fans who didn’t demo are the ones causing the divide, and that they don’t deserve to have a club to support.

Ultimately people have a right to choose if they want to be a part of the demonstrations or not, and regardless of their decisions it doesn’t make them less of a fan.

They pay their money, they turn up to games, and they support the team - that doesn’t mean that they support the regime.

It could be for any number of reasons - they could have plans before the game. They could be with small children who they don’t want to be involved in a protest which turns out to ‘not be peaceful’ (they were peaceful, but there is always the chance that a couple of assholes join and change that), or it could simply be that they don’t agree.

Regardless of what the reason is, bashing fans publically isn’t the right way to get further support of the movement in my opinion.

Tan is as stubborn as they come - he has two clubs who are in the same situation - two sets of fans that want him gone. Yet he still doesn’t seem to care.

Again, maybe I'm not making myself clear, or indeed, maybe there is an undercurrent of a bias that I have that I didn't mean to put over, but may need to address.

Those who don't protest, don't protest. I'm aware of that and accept. Some very good valid points above with well written replies.

My concern/argument, call it what you will, is with those who childishly ridicule the protest,and publicly make fun just like one would in school days gone past. It is thay which I detestable as I do believe their actions cause division, not the actions simply of those that don't protest.

While I'm disappointed with fans who don't see the need to protest. If they were all like posters on here who validate their arguments against, then who am I to ridicule? Challenge maybe, but as I have said earlier I respect fans who stick to their guns and don't change their mind like the wind.

Simon were you there yesterday?

Great Post Jonny

Simon were you there yesterday?

I planned to but couldn’t make it in the end.

I’ve lost the fight I used to have mate. I was 100% committed to the Bluebird Unite group and as you know boycotted the red years.

Firstly I don’t believe protesting hurts Tan at all as he doesn’t give two fucks about our opinion, secondly I try and not let things outside my control bother me anymore.

I’m 45 years old and protect my peace at all costs. Fully respect those that protested and it hurts me that I don’t care enough anymore to prioritise it myself.

This protest was called off a few weeks ago because someone said Mehmet got in touch with them and he was going to engage. Maybe if he didn’t pull the wool over the organisers eyes it would have been bigger. All too late now anyway Mehmet has won again with his bullshit.

Yes I saw quite a few fans around the stadium mocking the protest. Surprised me to be honest. Everyone entitled to their view I suppose though I find it hard to see how anyone can be happy with what is happening to our club.

Yes I saw quite a few fans around the stadium mocking the protest. Surprised me to be honest. Everyone entitled to their view I suppose though I find it hard to see how anyone can be happy with what is happening to our club.

Perhaps they will be happier watching league 1 next season they may not be laughing next season but they probably won' t turn up.

great post Jonny I was there yesterday this season is all on TAN, DALMAN,CHOO I SUPPORT THE TEAM NOT THE REGIME WE ARE WHERE WE ARE BECAUSE OF TAN,S PIG IGNORANCE

Jonny L

I was there on Monday and was totally surprised how few were there.

I’ll support but I think you have many of your answers in that attendance - 23,000 crowd and a few hundred at the protest.

I then went up to the lounge and that was packed with nobody caring or even looking out of the windows much.

Sad but true.

Man City protest didn't look much more in volume last night.

I assume the noise from the outside aren't pro-Tan but likely have other agendas; which is sad.

"One day they won. The next day they lost" keep going, all!!

Tan OUT

Has Mehmet met with you yet Jonny L?

We need to start getting the protest inside the ground too. I understand it’s hard with how Nash controls the narrative in the stadium but something needs to happen next season.

The other issue we have is the for/against Tan fans are spread out, there no specific area that can be vocal together. There’s not much stopping fans walking out to their seats through the correct entrance then moving across the rows towards a central point where we can be vocal. If it’s done enough it will grow as undecided fans will see the Tan Out protest trying and I already know a lot of Pro Tan fans from the other forum are wanting Tan Out too.

I’d like to get involved with the group if at all possible. I’m fed up to the back teeth of the direction the club is being taken and I’m also fed up of the narrative from the other forum of the Tan Out group wants Sam back!!!