FFP League 1

Isnt it right theres no ffp in league1? Thats how wrexham and Birmingham are thriving.

If we went down maybe that can go in our favour. Vincent Tan might splash the cash to get us back up to get some of his pride and reputation back? Or if he left would there be any other buyer who was rich enough to come in and invest significantly to get us bouncing straight back to the championship make us a force in league 1 and then the championship and have a double bounce like ipswich done? New manager in charge who can do it too?

Also if we were doing well , winning games and flying in league 1 this would bring back good crowds fans will be happy winning each week and that could give the club the bounce it needs too, would be a change from this shit the last few years just being stale and rotting away each season. Maybe a blessing in disguise going down? Well thats me trying to be positive and hoping for the best!?

Isnt it right theres no ffp in league1? Thats how wrexham and Birmingham are thriving.

If we went down maybe that can go in our favour. Vincent Tan might splash the cash to get us back up to get some of his pride and reputation back? Or if he left would there be any other buyer who was rich enough to come in and invest significantly to get us bouncing straight back to the championship make us a force in league 1 and then the championship and have a double bounce like ipswich done? New manager in charge who can do it too?

Also if we were doing well , winning games and flying in league 1 this would bring back good crowds fans will be happy winning each week and that could give the club the bounce it needs too, would be a change from this shit the last few years just being stale and rotting away each season. Maybe a blessing in disguise going down? Well thats me trying to be positive and hoping for the best!?

I suspect a lot of other fans think the same new away games etc but it's all if and buts I would think 99% don' t want to be relegated but want a forced change at the top.
The fear is we may stay in the lower part of that division and not come back k up.

https://www.efl.com/governance/financial-regulation/#

League One and League Two Clubs follow the Salary Cost Management Protocol (“SCMP”) These state that Clubs can only spend a fixed percentage of its revenue on player wages etc. This limit can also be added to or impacted by equity injections or net transfer spend.

https://www.efl.com/governance/financial-regulation/#

League One and League Two Clubs follow the Salary Cost Management Protocol (“SCMP”) These state that Clubs can only spend a fixed percentage of its revenue on player wages etc. This limit can also be added to or impacted by equity injections or net transfer spend.

Considering both brum & Wrexham income is more than some championship clubs can see how they were able to spend on players ... but can be sure they've done due diligence on what cam spend and how to increase income in championship...

The idea that Tan would actually spend more in League 1 in order to "save face" is ludicrous.

The time to save face was when Bulut was sacked followed by any number of times during the season including up to the last international break.

The club has already made it known that relegation will lead to major cost cutting just like our relegations from the Premier League recently have done.

I'll be intrigued to see whether Tan can manage to find anybody less qualified or cheaper than Riza to be manager next season because if he can't then I reckon Omar could well be looking at a new deal.

The Championship is governed by the Profit & Sustainability Rules which limit clubs to a maximum of a £39m loss over 3 years.

In Division 1 the Salary Cost Management Protocol limits clubs to spending 60% of their turnover on salaries (75% for newly relegated clubs).

Benefits of being a Division 1 club

I know this is an unusual heading, because we would prefer to be in the 2nd Tier, but there is a significant advantage of being subject to the "SCMP" as opposed to the P&S rules. For example it could mean, if timed well, the club could buy good quality Championship players (whilst in Division 1) without the cost forming part of the P&S rules. In this respect I do wonder whether relegation is part of the plan???

Birmingham have, for example, spent £35m on going straight back up.


Tans Options

For me he has 3 choices:

1) He can invest like Birmingham in the sum of £35m, and meet the £1-2m monthly expenses (£24m), to get us promoted

2) He can maintain the £1-2m monthly expenses and we keep the status quo and be a mid table division 1 side

3) He can try to sell the club for £80m and hopefully someone else can invest and take us up.


What do we think Tan will do?

The Championship is governed by the Profit & Sustainability Rules which limit clubs to a maximum of a £39m loss over 3 years.

In Division 1 the Salary Cost Management Protocol limits clubs to spending 60% of their turnover on salaries (75% for newly relegated clubs).

Benefits of being a Division 1 club

I know this is an unusual heading, because we would prefer to be in the 2nd Tier, but there is a significant advantage of being subject to the "SCMP" as opposed to the P&S rules. For example it could mean, if timed well, the club could buy good quality Championship players (whilst in Division 1) without the cost forming part of the P&S rules. In this respect I do wonder whether relegation is part of the plan???

Birmingham have, for example, spent £35m on going straight back up.


Tans Options

For me he has 3 choices:

1) He can invest like Birmingham in the sum of £35m, and meet the £1-2m monthly expenses (£24m), to get us promoted

2) He can maintain the £1-2m monthly expenses and we keep the status quo and be a mid table division 1 side

3) He can try to sell the club for £80m and hopefully someone else can invest and take us up.


What do we think Tan will do?

Or could cut playing staff down and use lot more cheaper players and youngsters risking relegation? But all this could change given the news today....who will dalman/tan choose as manager just maybe tan will take back seat and let dalman run club best plan if want to see his money again..

Think Zulus spent what close on 30 million, no way will VT put that into the club, not a chance. Yes he pays the monthly bill but that's to stop one of his business, and that's all it is to him from going under.

League 1 will be a struggle for our club in such a big empty stadium also. Away support in League 1 is pretty strong so we will defo be up against it.

Think Zulus spent what close on 30 million, no way will VT put that into the club, not a chance. Yes he pays the monthly bill but that's to stop one of his business, and that's all it is to him from going under.

League 1 will be a struggle for our club in such a big empty stadium also. Away support in League 1 is pretty strong so we will defo be up against it.

If we go down, I’d imagine our away support to be huge if we’re doing ok.

Some interesting comments. And paul keveels comment confirms what i thought was true. We could invest a lot of money in that league and come back with a stronger side than if we stayed in the championship next season.
BUT would Tan invest? Getting the managerial appointments and someone getting on board to buy the right players is key also, thats a decision thats more worrying with tan and one that costs him big time.
Tan has invested and got it right in the past under malky and warnock can he do it again?
And only worry is also if tan sells up and goes like so many people crave, would the next owner have the funds to pay our bills like tan does and invest like tan has in the past? What if tan selling up would put us more in the shit in league1 and plunge us further down to league2. Dont get me wrong id love a new owner with more money than vincent tan and someone who would run the club better and make us reach our massive potential, but there is a lot of unknowns and uncertainties with tan leaving or not, and with going to league 1

I know we hear Tan wants out etc. But, Is the total failure of relegation the tipping point for a long overdue change for Tan? Rather than selling? League 1 is so much more unglamorous financially and commercially than the top two leagues. His vision and pledge was to expose this club to the Eastern markets with EPL football, look where we are on the brink of heading!

I dont think Tan will change, in spending more on the team, and stop making football decisions himself. I do think our away footfall will be very good I will be there loud and proud to new grounds and towns. But I think the trend of cost cutting will continue. I really hope I am wrong on all counts, including writing Tan off that he will never change, I hope he shocks me and does that, I would tentatively consider a U turn, but his stubborness makes that unlikely. Or maybe even the Malaysian culture.

And the fence sitters are spot on, be careful what you wish for, its just hard when we are divided in danger of relegation , a soulless atmosphere and worst of all its not rocket science to see how easily avoidable it all has been!

I am desparate for Tan to go and have been since the rebrand. More so since the decline and withdrawal in team funding, managerial recruitment, broken promises, communication, deaf ears and ignorance towards appointing football men to make football decisions and now threat of relegation and dwindling crowds because of all of the above. Tan keeping the tax man away by continually injecting us with his own cash to keep us afloat I am relieved and extremely grateful for, but he is having to do that because of his own shortcomings and failures as listed above, we all know deep down inside, if Tans ego was put aside along with his bitterness towards 'those managers wasting my money' after he returned us to blue, and did a Wrexham and put football men in charge, we wouldnt be in this mess today and actually Tan might have our favourable backing and praise, and therefore a more united fanbase. Who knows where we would be in the league? Not heading for League 1 without a manager thats for sure.

I believe people can change, can Tan change? If we go down, what does that do to his famous ego and lack of accountability? Could that be the catalyst to reverse all the above? Its a failure at the end of the day. I want him gone while being very aware of potential consequences. I am open to supporting him if he implements the changes that we have collectively been crying out for over the years and shows he can stick to them. Its going to be very interesting and a bit scary if we go down. . , no more Tan talk from me now as Im driving myself mad with it all, I still live in hope we can pull off a miracle escape Im going to focus on that!! Come on Bluebirds we are not down yet!