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The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sat Apr 12, 2025 4:26 pm

So at the start of this season VT wanted £200m for a club worth £130m tops.

Relegation to Division 1 will drop the value of the club to in the region of £50m.

What will Tan do now?

1) Invest to try and get his money back or;

2) Sell up.

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sat Apr 12, 2025 4:30 pm

Transfermkt currently values us at £42M, so it's going to be less. Not sure how accurate that figure is but it's usually a credible source of info.

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sat Apr 12, 2025 4:33 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:So at the start of this season VT wanted £200m for a club worth £130m tops.

Relegation to Division 1 will drop the value of the club to in the region of £50m.

What will Tan do now?

1) Invest to try and get his money back or;

2) Sell up.


Neither.

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sat Apr 12, 2025 4:34 pm

He will do what he wants we don’t get a say in the matter

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sat Apr 12, 2025 4:41 pm

The stupid f**k will be lucky to get £30 million.

Should have cut his losses at the start of the season, now he’s lost way too much money.

Get fucked, get out of our club Tan.
Absolute f*cking poison.

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sat Apr 12, 2025 4:43 pm

Disastrous result today. We are not playing like a team in a relegation fight with a gun against its head. We are now reliant on others results and I can't see where the wins are going to now come from.

It was Tans decision to go with an unproven manager which is risk you can't take - so this is down to him.

We could see this happening months ago, some of us even longer than that and that's why we protested. This is what you get and we could all see it coming. It's criminal.

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sat Apr 12, 2025 4:55 pm

GrangeEndStar wrote:Disastrous result today. We are not playing like a team in a relegation fight with a gun against its head. We are now reliant on others results and I can't see where the wins are going to now come from.

It was Tans decision to go with an unproven manager which is risk you can't take - so this is down to him.

We could see this happening months ago, some of us even longer than that and that's why we protested. This is what you get and we could all see it coming. It's criminal.

Seems Vincent’s mismanagement has finally caught up with us; at great financial cost to himself and emotional cost to us supporters

Sadly, I believe he won’t do ‘the decent thing’ and leave/sell up and we will now be in a worse place than we were before he arrived. I find it so sad that he never learned as he went along :cry:

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:09 pm

I hope Tan enjoys the financial hit :lol: best chance we have of getting rid of the clowns.

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:12 pm

Sven wrote:
GrangeEndStar wrote:Disastrous result today. We are not playing like a team in a relegation fight with a gun against its head. We are now reliant on others results and I can't see where the wins are going to now come from.

It was Tans decision to go with an unproven manager which is risk you can't take - so this is down to him.

We could see this happening months ago, some of us even longer than that and that's why we protested. This is what you get and we could all see it coming. It's criminal.

Seems Vincent’s mismanagement has finally caught up with us; at great financial cost to himself and emotional cost to us supporters

Sadly, I believe he won’t do ‘the decent thing’ and leave/sell up and we will now be in a worse place than we were before he arrived. I find it so sad that he never learned as he went along :cry:


He was in it for the money when he first came Sven and that is the worst attitude you can have being an owner of a football club. When Dave Jones announced the Malaysians wanted to do it on the cheap I just knew this was going to turn out a disaster.

Yes we got to the Premier but he inherited a team that was up their to get there. Along came Malky who got us there on a tight but comfortable budget to cross the line. As we started our Premier journey it became quite clear where our holes were that needed filling. Instead of investing more Tan sacked Malky and we never recovered from that.

Yes we got back into the premier under the miracle worker Warnock but Tan never learned from the forst time and got cheap in. we went down again being names one season wonders and we just never recovered from it all. Tans true colours have come out since and he is getting what he deserves.

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:15 pm

Sven wrote:
GrangeEndStar wrote:Disastrous result today. We are not playing like a team in a relegation fight with a gun against its head. We are now reliant on others results and I can't see where the wins are going to now come from.

It was Tans decision to go with an unproven manager which is risk you can't take - so this is down to him.

We could see this happening months ago, some of us even longer than that and that's why we protested. This is what you get and we could all see it coming. It's criminal.

Seems Vincent’s mismanagement has finally caught up with us; at great financial cost to himself and emotional cost to us supporters

Sadly, I believe he won’t do ‘the decent thing’ and leave/sell up and we will now be in a worse place than we were before he arrived. I find it so sad that he never learned as he went along :cry:


Yes, he always said he'd leave us in a better state than he found us in and we are now much worse. And I fear it's going to get even more serious when we are in L1 as Tan has not learned and will not change.

And you can also expect the usual complete radio silence from him and the board as we complete our death spiral which they are wholly responsible for.

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:18 pm

At the start of the season I understand there was a party willing to pay in the region of £125m.

I wonder, if they put a bid in for £75m, and allocated £50m for development, I wonder whether Tan would accept that?

Lets be clear about this. Having CCFC drop to the 3rd Tier and Kortrijk drop down to the 2nd tier would be a significant proof of failure to VT.

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:32 pm

he is not even going to get the chance to meet Ryan Reynolds

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:34 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:At the start of the season I understand there was a party willing to pay in the region of £125m.

I wonder, if they put a bid in for £75m, and allocated £50m for development, I wonder whether Tan would accept that?

Lets be clear about this. Having CCFC drop to the 3rd Tier and Kortrijk drop down to the 2nd tier would be a significant proof of failure to VT.

£75 More like it

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:35 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:At the start of the season I understand there was a party willing to pay in the region of £125m.

I wonder, if they put a bid in for £75m, and allocated £50m for development, I wonder whether Tan would accept that?

Lets be clear about this. Having CCFC drop to the 3rd Tier and Kortrijk drop down to the 2nd tier would be a significant proof of failure to VT.


Hmm not heard that one but I do know not long ago we did have a good offer from someone. Dalman told us all that.

He should have taken that offer I mentioned because the reality was coming through that he was failing as a fottball club owner. He now is going to lose a lot more money and its all his own fault.

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sun Apr 13, 2025 12:57 pm

Are the protests happening for the last 2 home games? Gone a little bit quiet but those protests need happening. Enough is enough

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sun Apr 13, 2025 2:08 pm

The club is worth what someone is willing to pay , what we don't want is the club being sold with Tan still owning the stadium like what has happened with other clubs in the past ,people saying its only worth 50 million are wrong the stadium is down as 86 million in the accounts on its own .

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sun Apr 13, 2025 3:23 pm

My error on an earlier post. The stadium is worth £86 and the squad £41, so the club is currently worth around £127M.

The accounts say that third party loans (mainly Dalman) are secured against assets so I imagine that the stadium is the security.

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sun Apr 13, 2025 4:01 pm

If I won the euro lottery I would buy the club and give it to the fans.

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:01 pm

GrangeEndStar wrote:My error on an earlier post. The stadium is worth £86 and the squad £41, so the club is currently worth around £127M.

The accounts say that third party loans (mainly Dalman) are secured against assets so I imagine that the stadium is the security.

The only charge is Tan not anyone else.

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:05 pm

https://find-and-update.company-informa ... 65/charges only fixed charges on Cardiff City is to tan

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Mon Apr 14, 2025 9:13 am

Ryanccfc24 wrote:Are the protests happening for the last 2 home games? Gone a little bit quiet but those protests need happening. Enough is enough


The chance for all protest where there a few months back but the wise said its to late to change managers ,
don' t rock the boat bla bla
now with 4 games left they want change.

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Mon Apr 14, 2025 9:45 am

Definitely need protests happening again if tan is not prepared to change managers as it'll save him a bit of money. The club and board are a joke, we need to force them out

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:26 am

wez1927 wrote:
GrangeEndStar wrote:My error on an earlier post. The stadium is worth £86 and the squad £41, so the club is currently worth around £127M.

The accounts say that third party loans (mainly Dalman) are secured against assets so I imagine that the stadium is the security.

The only charge is Tan not anyone else.



The stadium is not saleable unless council changes its covenant on it.. whilst it is classed as asset for monetary considerations I would imagine dalman cannot put charge on it.. or is this not correct?

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:31 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
GrangeEndStar wrote:My error on an earlier post. The stadium is worth £86 and the squad £41, so the club is currently worth around £127M.

The accounts say that third party loans (mainly Dalman) are secured against assets so I imagine that the stadium is the security.

The only charge is Tan not anyone else.



The stadium is not saleable unless council changes its covenant on it.. whilst it is classed as asset for monetary considerations I would imagine dalman cannot put charge on it.. or is this not correct?

It's still an asset the club owns the building not the land but it's on a big lease , no one can put a charge on the club atm coz tan has a floating charge on all assets he has to agree to the charge to be placed ie Barclays bank in the past .

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:05 pm

wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
GrangeEndStar wrote:My error on an earlier post. The stadium is worth £86 and the squad £41, so the club is currently worth around £127M.

The accounts say that third party loans (mainly Dalman) are secured against assets so I imagine that the stadium is the security.

The only charge is Tan not anyone else.



The stadium is not saleable unless council changes its covenant on it.. whilst it is classed as asset for monetary considerations I would imagine dalman cannot put charge on it.. or is this not correct?

It's still an asset the club owns the building not the land but it's on a big lease , no one can put a charge on the club atm coz tan has a floating charge on all assets he has to agree to the charge to be placed ie Barclays bank in the past .



But can it be sold as separate entity like Coventry and Derby have amongst others?

Re: The Valuation of the Club - drops to £50m (est)

Mon Apr 14, 2025 4:19 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
GrangeEndStar wrote:My error on an earlier post. The stadium is worth £86 and the squad £41, so the club is currently worth around £127M.

The accounts say that third party loans (mainly Dalman) are secured against assets so I imagine that the stadium is the security.

The only charge is Tan not anyone else.



The stadium is not saleable unless council changes its covenant on it.. whilst it is classed as asset for monetary considerations I would imagine dalman cannot put charge on it.. or is this not correct?

It's still an asset the club owns the building not the land but it's on a big lease , no one can put a charge on the club atm coz tan has a floating charge on all assets he has to agree to the charge to be placed ie Barclays bank in the past .



But can it be sold as separate entity like Coventry and Derby have amongst others?

Yes it can be sold to any company the covenant is a planning condition that it's needs to be used for sport the land , so cant be technically ripped down for housing but it can 100% be sold to a third party company and leased back hence it has big value.