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The blame should be…

Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:47 pm

Spread many different ways.

Plenty of threads here about Riza, who deserves his share of the blame for the way we have set up against a team who is away from home and struggling massively in the league.

BUT

There is blame to lay in different places also:

Tan: This is his club. He owns us. He is not a football man, he’s a business man who is too stubborn and too tight to see what is right in front of him.

We have been in relegation scraps for a number of years, we survived two seasons ago due to a points deduction for Reading.

During that time we have had a number of different managers who have all struggled. This is on Tan and his approach to bringing in the right person. No one is going to turn down the job if they are out of work and not really qualified for it.

Can’t blame Riza for Tan not providing the right funds for players or for ultimately hiring him in the first place.

The players:

These players are paid a fortune and only a handful of them seem interested. The days where players played for the badge and were interested in the club, would go all in on 50/50s, wear their heart on the sleeve are truly gone.

Riza can be blamed for tactics, but he can’t be blamed for a professional footballer not being able to pass a ball 3 feet to his team mate.

A lot of the players are lazy and couldn’t give a toss.

Nash:

Don’t even get me started on Nash. As fans we have to put up with shite football, and now we have Nash trying to kill the atmosphere as much as he can. What happened to the fans being the 12th man?

The club needs an overhaul from top to bottom.

Tan out, board out, Nash out, Riza out (if it’s not Purse taking over), over half of the players out.

Re: The blame should be…

Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:46 pm

Roath_Blue wrote:Spread many different ways.

Plenty of threads here about Riza, who deserves his share of the blame for the way we have set up against a team who is away from home and struggling massively in the league.

BUT

There is blame to lay in different places also:

Tan: This is his club. He owns us. He is not a football man, he’s a business man who is too stubborn and too tight to see what is right in front of him.

We have been in relegation scraps for a number of years, we survived two seasons ago due to a points deduction for Reading.

During that time we have had a number of different managers who have all struggled. This is on Tan and his approach to bringing in the right person. No one is going to turn down the job if they are out of work and not really qualified for it.

Can’t blame Riza for Tan not providing the right funds for players or for ultimately hiring him in the first place.

The players:

These players are paid a fortune and only a handful of them seem interested. The days where players played for the badge and were interested in the club, would go all in on 50/50s, wear their heart on the sleeve are truly gone.

Riza can be blamed for tactics, but he can’t be blamed for a professional footballer not being able to pass a ball 3 feet to his team mate.

A lot of the players are lazy and couldn’t give a toss.

Nash:

Don’t even get me started on Nash. As fans we have to put up with shite football, and now we have Nash trying to kill the atmosphere as much as he can. What happened to the fans being the 12th man?

The club needs an overhaul from top to bottom.

Tan out, board out, Nash out, Riza out (if it’s not Purse taking over), over half of the players out.

We are in the top 5 spenders on fees and wages this season, the problems is Tan shouldn't of gone with riza

Re: The blame should be…

Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:50 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:Spread many different ways.

Plenty of threads here about Riza, who deserves his share of the blame for the way we have set up against a team who is away from home and struggling massively in the league.

BUT

There is blame to lay in different places also:

Tan: This is his club. He owns us. He is not a football man, he’s a business man who is too stubborn and too tight to see what is right in front of him.

We have been in relegation scraps for a number of years, we survived two seasons ago due to a points deduction for Reading.

During that time we have had a number of different managers who have all struggled. This is on Tan and his approach to bringing in the right person. No one is going to turn down the job if they are out of work and not really qualified for it.

Can’t blame Riza for Tan not providing the right funds for players or for ultimately hiring him in the first place.

The players:

These players are paid a fortune and only a handful of them seem interested. The days where players played for the badge and were interested in the club, would go all in on 50/50s, wear their heart on the sleeve are truly gone.

Riza can be blamed for tactics, but he can’t be blamed for a professional footballer not being able to pass a ball 3 feet to his team mate.

A lot of the players are lazy and couldn’t give a toss.

Nash:

Don’t even get me started on Nash. As fans we have to put up with shite football, and now we have Nash trying to kill the atmosphere as much as he can. What happened to the fans being the 12th man?

The club needs an overhaul from top to bottom.

Tan out, board out, Nash out, Riza out (if it’s not Purse taking over), over half of the players out.

We are in the top 5 spenders on fees and wages this season, the problems is Tan shouldn't of gone with riza


Where have those numbers come from Wez as every site I’ve looked at has us nowhere near top 5

Re: The blame should be…

Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:12 pm

Roath_Blue wrote:Spread many different ways.

Plenty of threads here about Riza, who deserves his share of the blame for the way we have set up against a team who is away from home and struggling massively in the league.

BUT

There is blame to lay in different places also:

Tan: This is his club. He owns us. He is not a football man, he’s a business man who is too stubborn and too tight to see what is right in front of him.

We have been in relegation scraps for a number of years, we survived two seasons ago due to a points deduction for Reading.

During that time we have had a number of different managers who have all struggled. This is on Tan and his approach to bringing in the right person. No one is going to turn down the job if they are out of work and not really qualified for it.

Can’t blame Riza for Tan not providing the right funds for players or for ultimately hiring him in the first place.

The players:

These players are paid a fortune and only a handful of them seem interested. The days where players played for the badge and were interested in the club, would go all in on 50/50s, wear their heart on the sleeve are truly gone.

Riza can be blamed for tactics, but he can’t be blamed for a professional footballer not being able to pass a ball 3 feet to his team mate.

A lot of the players are lazy and couldn’t give a toss.

Nash:

Don’t even get me started on Nash. As fans we have to put up with shite football, and now we have Nash trying to kill the atmosphere as much as he can. What happened to the fans being the 12th man?

The club needs an overhaul from top to bottom.

Tan out, board out, Nash out, Riza out (if it’s not Purse taking over), over half of the players out.


Agree with lots of that.
Some of the players last night need to shoulder some blame. As much as I like colwill. He shit out for the equaliser. Willock shits out of 99% of challenges. Mannsverk passing went diabolical last 20. Ng poor passing again.

Re: The blame should be…

Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:23 pm

Agree with all the above but due diligence on each players character when signed would have picked up on their deficiencies.Malky signed mentally tough players who were the type you needed to survive or achieve something.Our squad badly lack these traits and a strong manager /coach to install discipline and a clear instructions :old:

Re: The blame should be…

Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:44 pm

Tan and the board are the problem it’s simple as that,they’ve run the club like a shit show for years and years and maybe now their luck is running out appointing a rookie manager and gambling with our championship status is on them

Re: The blame should be…

Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:32 pm

Playing the right way has caused us umpteen headaches. Our obsession with the "modern" game when we are a decade behind the 8 ball, under-resourced in terms of finance and personnel which has caused us untold issues.

Asking second level players to do things that top level players get found out doing is pitiful. Perry NG can't pass to his left, the keeper visibly looks petrified every time the ball is passed back to him, Goutas thinks he has the same time as he does at in Greece, we have no pace for a counter, and the long ball is frowned upon. A CM and winger as our full backs, untried kids as our saviours.

We have a manager who has never managed professionals before, a senior management team who, after being in the game for 12 years, still appear clueless and players playing a game they are not suited for and a club who has taken the fans for granted for far too long.

Next season will be an even bigger disaster, this is a downhill spiral that won't end until Tan leaves or U turns his entire strategy

Re: The blame should be…

Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:13 am

llan bluebird wrote:Perry NG can't pass to his left


Random. He crossed in 90+7 to his left for Salech to rescue a point at Millwall.