O/T Assisted Dying

[MikeO76]

Anyone who has watched a loved one die in agony has every right to comment for those who have not or rather been spared this trauma thank goodness you have not gone through it

100% agree with you.

Thankfully I'm currently in the latter bracket and haven't voted because I don't feel I'm qualified to do so.

It's a massive subject and understand people's opinions for and against it but until you have that awful experience you can't know now 100% how you'd feel in that situation.

You absolutely should vote for that reason. If you have an opinion one way or the other. It’s good to have a wide spectrum of views and experiences.

I stand by my original post, until you go through that experience you don't really know how you'd feel under those traumatic times.

That is also true. I've had a relative going through a lot of pain for several months now.

But I do still have big concerns about the safe guarding.

What really needs to change is an improvement in palliative care.

I also understand some people who say this doesn't go far enough, I expect that will be part of the debate as this reaches it's next stage in 2025.

I'm sorry to hear about your relative, I hope things improve for them soon.

It's a massive subject and everyone has an opinion. If you look at it from another direction, there's also an argument that why should these over paid hypocritical MPs have a say on whether someone has the right to end their own life or not.

[Blueman39]

I don’t have the right to tell someone they must go through an insufferable death if they don’t want to…
Simple as that …

[worcester_ccfc]

This passed today by 23 votes.

Still has to clear the House of Lords but extremely likely now that this will become law.

A huge moment for society in England and Wales.

[pembroke allan]

Can you trust mps to get it right? One was saying needed more safeguards as people with anorexia and another illness neither which are terminal can be cohesed into ending their life! Don't they even understand what terminal illness means? But its yes from me.

[worcester_ccfc]

Can you trust mps to get it right? One was saying needed more safeguards as people with anorexia and another illness neither which are terminal can be cohesed into ending their life! Don't they even understand what terminal illness means? But its yes from me.

I can't see the Lords blocking it but they'll probably put more safeguarding in.

Actually thought the debate with MPs was good, no shouting over each other and there was respect on both sides.

Massive day. Can put it on a par with abortion legalisation and the end of capital punishment.

[stickywicket]

There's no words to discribe my wife's death from breast cancer
It's a yes from me

[worcester_ccfc]

Voting breakdown:


PM voted for it.

Badenoch and Farage voted against it.

Ed Davey didn't vote.



Voted for

Labour - 224
Lib Dems - 56
Conservative - 20
Green - 4
Plaid Cymru - 3
Independent - 3
Reform - 2
SDLP - 1

Voted against

Labour - 160
Conservative - 92
Lib Dems - 15
Independent - 12
DUP - 5
Reform - 3
UUP - 1
TUV - 1
Plaid Cymru - 1
APNI - 1

Didn't vote

Labour - 15
SNP - 9
Sinn Fein - 7
Conservative - 5
Lib Dems - 2
SDLP - 1



Don't know why some of the Northern Ireland MPs got involved, only applies to England and Wales.

Obviously Sinn Fein never use their vote.

[pembroke allan]

Can you trust mps to get it right? One was saying needed more safeguards as people with anorexia and another illness neither which are terminal can be cohesed into ending their life! Don't they even understand what terminal illness means? But its yes from me.

I can't see the Lords blocking it but they'll probably put more safeguarding in.

Actually thought the debate with MPs was good, no shouting over each other and there was respect on both sides.

Massive day. Can put it on a par with abortion legalisation and the end of capital punishment.

The comments came in and interview.... how can you trust such person to make an informed decision when don't even know what terminal illness means? Thfer as been a very large switch from agreeing to it to suddenly having doubts about it.

[pembroke allan]

There is expected to be a challenge to ammend the bill when goes to the Lords before it becomes law.

[MillenniumNova]

I’m for it, why should we say no to those who are suffering?

If your pet is suffering, we always say “it’s best for them” when they get put down, but we don’t say this for people?

Nobody needs to live their final moments stuck on a hospital bed and in severe pain.

[Jonesy-valleyboy27]

MPs have today voted in favour of Assisted Dying. I would have voted against it.

Does not mean by any means that it will become law.

There are still a number of stages for it to get through and I'm sure the debate will go on.



But are you in favour of it or not?

I understand the reasons people want it - there are people going through insufferable pain.

My concern has always been, and still is, the safe guarding. Which is why I would have voted no.

It is a highly emotive topic though and people will decide based on what they have experienced seeing through their family and friends.



Voting breakdown

For assisted dying

Labour - 234
Conservative - 23
Lib Dems - 61
Reform - 3
Green - 4
Plaid Cymru - 3
SDLP - 1
Independent - 1

Against assisted dying

Labour - 147
Conservative - 92
Lib Dems - 11
Reform - 2
Independent - 14
DUP - 5
Alliance - 1
Traditional Unionist - 1
Ulster Unionist - 1

A big yes from me.
I should be able to choose when I die or live period, it’s my life. If suffering with a terrible illness then even more so.
In term of the abuse it just needs to be policed properly, people get murdered as it is any way so for me people abusing it is a seperate issue.
If done properly and that’s what the person want they should be entitled too.
If people comment a crime because of a new law then that’s seperate and needs dealing with. Make an example of the few that would commit those crimes. People already kill people for personal gain so nothing new there.

[AJ1927]

We can decide to put our pets to sleep forever.
But not parents or grandparents who may have terminal conditions giving them a very poor life quality.

Seems odd.

[welshrarebit]

I'm not in favour of this bill.

I hope it doesn't turn in to what happens in Canada with disabled people being pushed to AD rather than giving them assistance to live better.

I'd have been happy with a law that states any person helping a loved one to Switzerland won't be prosecuted.

I think this is far too big a change for a private members bill with minimal debate and discussion. There are far too many experts against it for my liking.

Just because you may agree with something in principle doesn't mean every bill in it's name is the right one.

[welshrarebit]

I’m for it, why should we say no to those who are suffering?

If your pet is suffering, we always say “it’s best for them” when they get put down, but we don’t say this for people?

Nobody needs to live their final moments stuck on a hospital bed and in severe pain.

No one should be allowed to decide for someone else that it's best to put the down.

This can only be an option requested by the individual imho not something suggested or pushed for by anyone else

[pembroke allan]

WG says it as to approve it before it can happen I'm Wales!