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Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:13 pm

Cardiff midfielder Aaron Ramsey has suffered a setback in his bid to return from a hamstring injury


Cardiff City midfielder Aaron Ramsey has suffered a setback in his bid to return from a hamstring injury.
The Wales captain, 33, has not played since sustaining the injury during his country’s Nations League win in Montenegro in September.


Having originally been scheduled to be back playing after two months, Ramsey had returned to training with Cardiff before the new problem occurred.


"Aaron has picked up a slight problem as well with the injury so it might be a bit further down the line," said the Bluebirds’ interim manager Omer Riza.
"We’re waiting for the medical team to clarify that. We have to be guided on that."



Striker Kion Etete, who has not played at all this season due to a hamstring injury, has also seen his return date pushed back.

"Kion had a little setback in the Brentford game [friendly during this month’s international break] so he’s been put back a couple of weeks. That was more cautionary," said Riza.
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Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:32 pm

Ramsey will never play for us again in my opinion. Get him on the coaching staff at a quarter of the cost. One of our worst signings sadly, just not worked out for him, his legs seem to have gone.

Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:35 pm

Underhill1927 wrote:Ramsey will never play for us again in my opinion. Get him on the coaching staff at a quarter of the cost. One of our worst signings sadly, just not worked out for him, his legs seem to have gone.

Agree

Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:21 pm

Underhill1927 wrote:Ramsey will never play for us again in my opinion. Get him on the coaching staff at a quarter of the cost. One of our worst signings sadly, just not worked out for him, his legs seem to have gone.


Spot on.

Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:35 am

Aaron Ramsey in approx 68 games since he signed for Cardiff Started 9 and came on as Sub in 8 games, a Total of 17 appearances in 68 games and out injured again.

9 Starts in 68 games that were played during his time at Cardiff City:
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Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:48 am

And Striker Kion Etete who had never payed for Tottenham like Glen Williams / Media Wales had everyone believe has in his 6 years of Professional football for Cheltenham / Northampton and Cardiff City scored 12 goals / that’s 2 goals as a Striker ever year.

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Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:34 am

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Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:25 am

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Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:38 am

Sadly, it hasn't worked out.

It was on the table and a no-brainer at the time.

He's on the books now, so hopefully he gets his swansong moment before the end of the season. Give him as much time as he needs.

Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:48 am

Underhill1927 wrote:Ramsey will never play for us again in my opinion. Get him on the coaching staff at a quarter of the cost. One of our worst signings sadly, just not worked out for him, his legs seem to have gone.


Time for him to go

Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:56 am

Add Vassell and jazz richards..4 worst signings for cost / games ratio

Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:57 am

For me Aaron Ramsey offers far more than just an on-field player. I suspect he is someone who is good to have in the camp and I suspect he has also offer a huge amount in the development of Rubin Colwill.

As to his playing days I suspect that Aaron himself knows that his playing days are coming to an end. He has money behind him and I suspect he is not one who is just interested in picking up a salary. Indeed I wouldn't be surprised if he calls it a day at the end of the season.

One thing we do need and that is for Aaron to stay at the club in some other capacity.

Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:02 am

Paul Keevil wrote:For me Aaron Ramsey offers far more than just an on-field player. I suspect he is someone who is good to have in the camp and I suspect he has also offer a huge amount in the development of Rubin Colwill.

As to his playing days I suspect that Aaron himself knows that his playing days are coming to an end. He has money behind him and I suspect he is not one who is just interested in picking up a salary. Indeed I wouldn't be surprised if he calls it a day at the end of the season.

One thing we do need and that is for Aaron to stay at the club in some other capacity.


Will go another year probably
on different reduced contract WC is following year..

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Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:31 am

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Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:27 pm

This doesn't bother me anymore because have just come to expect it.

Like others have said, Ramsey just needs to retire and sign a coaching contract. His fitness just isn't there - it's a shame but a fact.

Etete has had his injury problems too and not much of a help when he is fit, will go down as a bad signing.


So when I think of our squad for the rest of the season, best to ignore these two really - Ramsey won't be fit and Etete isn't good enough.

Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:04 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:This doesn't bother me anymore because have just come to expect it.

Like others have said, Ramsey just needs to retire and sign a coaching contract. His fitness just isn't there - it's a shame but a fact.

Etete has had his injury problems too and not much of a help when he is fit, will go down as a bad signing.


So when I think of our squad for the rest of the season, best to ignore these two really - Ramsey won't be fit and Etete isn't good enough.



Rambo is not going to give up on playing in WC ... do if club doesn't give him an reduced 18mnth contract he will go elsewhere maybe Wrexham on a reduced contract a coaches job at city will not be suitable for him at this juncture ..

Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:06 pm

I hope he DOES realise before the WC.

We failed last time because we held on to Bale, Ramsey and Allen for too long when we should have been bringing the kids through.

He’s not good enough for that team now.

He will get injured in the first game also.

Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:07 pm

AR is just a part of the problems at Cardiff City, along with many other players who are just continually sick notes, or simply not good enough, at Championship level.
Our club were well aware of his previous injury and fitness levels, so there’s no point moaning about it,,, but come the end of the season, and we fall short, serious questions are going to be asked.

Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:33 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:This doesn't bother me anymore because have just come to expect it.

Like others have said, Ramsey just needs to retire and sign a coaching contract. His fitness just isn't there - it's a shame but a fact.

Etete has had his injury problems too and not much of a help when he is fit, will go down as a bad signing.


So when I think of our squad for the rest of the season, best to ignore these two really - Ramsey won't be fit and Etete isn't good enough.


The problem is of course is that both of them are contracted to the club and therefore their salaries form part of the budget which has a knock on effect when looking for at least two decent strikers in January.

Especially if we're stuck with Kanga for the rest of the season.

Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:46 pm

Roath_Blue wrote:I hope he DOES realise before the WC.

We failed last time because we held on to Bale, Ramsey and Allen for too long when we should have been bringing the kids through.

He’s not good enough for that team now.

He will get injured in the first game also.



WC failed because of pages tactics can't lay blame on 3 players when whole team failed... but would you give up chance of going to WC if had chance? He's not to old yes injuries a problem at moment but all players can have bad run you'll find plenty been out for a many months/year and have another injury 2 weeks after returning it happens... I'm not saying he should get a contract but I believe he won't retire at end season but next season if he continues to miss extended periods of games he may well give up his ambition of WC but not now.

Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:50 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:I hope he DOES realise before the WC.

We failed last time because we held on to Bale, Ramsey and Allen for too long when we should have been bringing the kids through.

He’s not good enough for that team now.

He will get injured in the first game also.



WC failed because of pages tactics can't lay blame on 3 players when whole team failed... but would you give up chance of going to WC if had chance? He's not to old yes injuries a problem at moment but all players can have bad run you'll find plenty been out for a many months/year and have another injury 2 weeks after returning it happens... I'm not saying he should get a contract but I believe he won't retire at end season but next season if he continues to miss extended periods of games he may well give up his ambition of WC but not now.


If you were Bellamy would you want him anywhere near the Welsh squad for the WC after he’s played 9 games out of a possible 68?

I know I wouldn’t.

Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:22 pm

Roath_Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:I hope he DOES realise before the WC.

We failed last time because we held on to Bale, Ramsey and Allen for too long when we should have been bringing the kids through.

He’s not good enough for that team now.

He will get injured in the first game also.



WC failed because of pages tactics can't lay blame on 3 players when whole team failed... but would you give up chance of going to WC if had chance? He's not to old yes injuries a problem at moment but all players can have bad run you'll find plenty been out for a many months/year and have another injury 2 weeks after returning it happens... I'm not saying he should get a contract but I believe he won't retire at end season but next season if he continues to miss extended periods of games he may well give up his ambition of WC but not now.


If you were Bellamy would you want him anywhere near the Welsh squad for the WC after he’s played 9 games out of a possible 68?

I know I wouldn’t.


I think I would & I would bet good money that Bellamy will put him straight into the squad when he's fit. Maybe not in the starting 11 but certainly in the squad.

We need to keep him around in some capacity, be it in a coaching role/under 21 mgr. or on a pay as you play sort of thing because I'm convinced he would be good for the youngsters to be around.

Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:56 pm

Roath_Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:I hope he DOES realise before the WC.

We failed last time because we held on to Bale, Ramsey and Allen for too long when we should have been bringing the kids through.

He’s not good enough for that team now.

He will get injured in the first game also.



WC failed because of pages tactics can't lay blame on 3 players when whole team failed... but would you give up chance of going to WC if had chance? He's not to old yes injuries a problem at moment but all players can have bad run you'll find plenty been out for a many months/year and have another injury 2 weeks after returning it happens... I'm not saying he should get a contract but I believe he won't retire at end season but next season if he continues to miss extended periods of games he may well give up his ambition of WC but not now.


If you were Bellamy would you want him anywhere near the Welsh squad for the WC after he’s played 9 games out of a possible 68?

I know I wouldn’t.



No you wouldn't but yben we are not a football manager......there is more yo bring a footballer than kicking a ball? Very few will say he's not been an influence on youngsters or the 1st team squad particularly the younger ones like Colwill.... like said dont think he will retire just yet but would ccfc want to pay anything to give him an 18mnth contract? Pay as you play possibly best option but yhere again who knows the situation with yhe club and rambo.

Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:58 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:I hope he DOES realise before the WC.

We failed last time because we held on to Bale, Ramsey and Allen for too long when we should have been bringing the kids through.

He’s not good enough for that team now.

He will get injured in the first game also.



WC failed because of pages tactics can't lay blame on 3 players when whole team failed... but would you give up chance of going to WC if had chance? He's not to old yes injuries a problem at moment but all players can have bad run you'll find plenty been out for a many months/year and have another injury 2 weeks after returning it happens... I'm not saying he should get a contract but I believe he won't retire at end season but next season if he continues to miss extended periods of games he may well give up his ambition of WC but not now.


If you were Bellamy would you want him anywhere near the Welsh squad for the WC after he’s played 9 games out of a possible 68?

I know I wouldn’t.


I think I would & I would bet good money that Bellamy will put him straight into the squad when he's fit. Maybe not in the starting 11 but certainly in the squad.

We need to keep him around in some capacity, be it in a coaching role/under 21 mgr. or on a pay as you play sort of thing because I'm convinced he would be good for the youngsters to be around.




I agree there's more to a footballer than kicking a ball.

Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:08 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:I hope he DOES realise before the WC.

We failed last time because we held on to Bale, Ramsey and Allen for too long when we should have been bringing the kids through.

He’s not good enough for that team now.

He will get injured in the first game also.



WC failed because of pages tactics can't lay blame on 3 players when whole team failed... but would you give up chance of going to WC if had chance? He's not to old yes injuries a problem at moment but all players can have bad run you'll find plenty been out for a many months/year and have another injury 2 weeks after returning it happens... I'm not saying he should get a contract but I believe he won't retire at end season but next season if he continues to miss extended periods of games he may well give up his ambition of WC but not now.


If you were Bellamy would you want him anywhere near the Welsh squad for the WC after he’s played 9 games out of a possible 68?

I know I wouldn’t.


I think I would & I would bet good money that Bellamy will put him straight into the squad when he's fit. Maybe not in the starting 11 but certainly in the squad.

We need to keep him around in some capacity, be it in a coaching role/under 21 mgr. or on a pay as you play sort of thing because I'm convinced he would be good for the youngsters to be around.




I agree there's more to a footballer than kicking a ball.


Ramsey has been even less useful than Kanga.

At least Kanga can actually get on the pitch.

The main part of being a footballer, is being able to kick the ball.

Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:14 pm

Roath_Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:I hope he DOES realise before the WC.

We failed last time because we held on to Bale, Ramsey and Allen for too long when we should have been bringing the kids through.

He’s not good enough for that team now.

He will get injured in the first game also.



WC failed because of pages tactics can't lay blame on 3 players when whole team failed... but would you give up chance of going to WC if had chance? He's not to old yes injuries a problem at moment but all players can have bad run you'll find plenty been out for a many months/year and have another injury 2 weeks after returning it happens... I'm not saying he should get a contract but I believe he won't retire at end season but next season if he continues to miss extended periods of games he may well give up his ambition of WC but not now.


If you were Bellamy would you want him anywhere near the Welsh squad for the WC after he’s played 9 games out of a possible 68?

I know I wouldn’t.


I think I would & I would bet good money that Bellamy will put him straight into the squad when he's fit. Maybe not in the starting 11 but certainly in the squad.

We need to keep him around in some capacity, be it in a coaching role/under 21 mgr. or on a pay as you play sort of thing because I'm convinced he would be good for the youngsters to be around.




I agree there's more to a footballer than kicking a ball.


Ramsey has been even less useful than Kanga.

At least Kanga can actually get on the pitch.

The main part of being a footballer, is being able to kick the ball.


Have to agree with you.

If Ramsey was on 5k a week then I'd probably say "well at least he's not being paid much, let's give him more time".

But he's on big money. Money we shouldn't be playing for a player that won't even play in 25% of the games.

Re: Ramsey out injured for longer and Etete:

Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:56 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:I hope he DOES realise before the WC.

We failed last time because we held on to Bale, Ramsey and Allen for too long when we should have been bringing the kids through.

He’s not good enough for that team now.

He will get injured in the first game also.



WC failed because of pages tactics can't lay blame on 3 players when whole team failed... but would you give up chance of going to WC if had chance? He's not to old yes injuries a problem at moment but all players can have bad run you'll find plenty been out for a many months/year and have another injury 2 weeks after returning it happens... I'm not saying he should get a contract but I believe he won't retire at end season but next season if he continues to miss extended periods of games he may well give up his ambition of WC but not now.


If you were Bellamy would you want him anywhere near the Welsh squad for the WC after he’s played 9 games out of a possible 68?

I know I wouldn’t.


I think I would & I would bet good money that Bellamy will put him straight into the squad when he's fit. Maybe not in the starting 11 but certainly in the squad.

We need to keep him around in some capacity, be it in a coaching role/under 21 mgr. or on a pay as you play sort of thing because I'm convinced he would be good for the youngsters to be around.




I agree there's more to a footballer than kicking a ball.


Ramsey has been even less useful than Kanga.

At least Kanga can actually get on the pitch.

The main part of being a footballer, is being able to kick the ball.


Have to agree with you.

If Ramsey was on 5k a week then I'd probably say "well at least he's not being paid much, let's give him more time".

But he's on big money. Money we shouldn't be playing for a player that won't even play in 25% of the games.


Ned, 13% he’s played so far.

I don’t see how we move forward with a new contract and rightly so.