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Erol Bulut’s Signings & Accountability : Of the team that

Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:05 pm

Bulut’s Signings & Accountability :

Of the team that started against Hull 5 of the players were his signings (Ugbo , Meite , Grant , Siopis and Goutas . One (Colwill) he promoted from within .


Of those on the bench 3 were his signings (Bowler , Runarsson and Panzo).


The point I am making is roughly half of our team in action are his signings .

Ramsey of his nine signings has been virtually the only one missing and we had an excellent run without him.

Yes , he could not spend money to buy ….but by golly , most of those are on damn good wages and many now the highest paid at our club and are experienced professionals.


My inference is that , Bulut must accept a good deal of the responsibility for our performance .

Also most of the coaching staff are Buluts own.

Most people - me included- have praised him in a big way when praise was due …..but now Bulut must accept responsibility for the massive decline in our performance .

Significantly , the players he inherited are not exactly slouchers … Alnwick , NG , McGuinness and Collins.
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Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:22 pm

The honeymoon is over for Bulut . He must stand up and be counted and take responsibility , for good or bad …just like everybody else ….the players or the Board or Tan .



No one is beyond accountability .
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Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:09 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Bulut’s Signings & Accountsbility :

Of the team that started against Hull 5 of the players were his signings (Ugbo , Meite , Grant , Siopis and Goutas . One (Colwill) he promoted from within .


Of those on the bench 3 were his signings (Bowler , Runarsson and Panzo).


The point I am making is roughly half of our team in action are his signings .

Ramsey of his nine signings has been virtually the only one missing and we had an excellent run without him.

Yes , he could not spend money to buy ….but by golly , most of those are on damn good wages and many now the highest paid at our club and are experienced professionals.


My inference is that , Bulut must accept a good deal of the responsibility for our performance .

Also most of the coaching staff are Buluts own.

Most people - me included- have praised him in a big way when praise was due …..but now Bulut must accept responsibility for the massive decline in our performance .

Significantly , the players he inherited are not exactly slouchers … Alnwick , NG , McGuinness and Collins.

Goutas grant,bowler and sopsis are definitely his players not to sure the others are tbh

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Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:33 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Bulut’s Signings & Accountsbility :

Of the team that started against Hull 5 of the players were his signings (Ugbo , Meite , Grant , Siopis and Goutas . One (Colwill) he promoted from within .


Of those on the bench 3 were his signings (Bowler , Runarsson and Panzo).


The point I am making is roughly half of our team in action are his signings .

Ramsey of his nine signings has been virtually the only one missing and we had an excellent run without him.

Yes , he could not spend money to buy ….but by golly , most of those are on damn good wages and many now the highest paid at our club and are experienced professionals.


My inference is that , Bulut must accept a good deal of the responsibility for our performance .

Also most of the coaching staff are Buluts own.

Most people - me included- have praised him in a big way when praise was due …..but now Bulut must accept responsibility for the massive decline in our performance .

Significantly , the players he inherited are not exactly slouchers … Alnwick , NG , McGuinness and Collins.

Goutas grant,bowler and sopsis are definitely his players not to sure the others are tbh



:lol: :lol:


Who else’s can they be , unless The Famous Transfer Committee are still running the show?

Even Bulut stated 2weeks ago he has Signed 9 players.

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Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:52 pm

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Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:48 pm

Every team goes through a bad patch , let’s all look forward to the January transfer window, like the manager said we win together and we lose together

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Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:59 pm

Some of those players are pretty good when compared to last season's mob and we must remember Bulut himself is both new to the country and to the Championship...

They say new players need to 'bed themselves in' and we've seen loads of examples of questionable 'first season's' only to then see huge leaps forward in the next (season)

For me, Erol Bulut is still finding his feet and working out his best team and formation with little in the background to play with...

January should see a big leap forward in squad strength and depth and that should reflect in more consistency on the field of play..

However, I always saw next season as a defining one for club and manager with the caveat that he (Bulut) has done more than enough to warrant our support and patience. Afterall, as many of us have stated already, who truly expected us to be in touch with the top 6 at this point of this season...

I'll hold my hands up and say "not me!" :ayatollah:

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Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:52 pm

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Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:54 pm

Sven wrote:Some of those players are pretty good when compared to last season's mob and we must remember Bulut himself is both new to the country and to the Championship...

They say new players need to 'bed themselves in' and we've seen loads of examples of questionable 'first season's' only to huge leaos forward in the next (season)

For me, Erol Bulut is still finding his feet and working out his best team and formation with little in the background to play with...

January should see a big leap forward in squad strength and depth and that should reflect in more consistency on the field of play..

However, I always saw next season as a defining one for club and manager with the caveat that he (Bulut) has done more than enough to warrant our support and patience. Afterall, as many of us have stated already, who truly expected us to be in touch with the top 6 at this point of this season...

I'll hold my hands up and say "not me!" :ayatollah:



Chris,

He def deserves so far to stay for the whole of this season and come say March decide on next season, We do need stability and hopefully Bulut is the one for this.

But I am 50/50 on him.

He is better than Morison, Slade, Harris, Hudson, Trollope etc but then most managers are :lol:

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Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:09 pm

I know we're missing key players but I'm struggling with how we barely look competitive in games and how many players are turning in poor to below average displays currently. They work hard but there's not much else to commend.

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Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:12 pm

In a year of rebuilding and taking on a new manager under a transfer embargo I think a top half finish (10th or above) would be a fantastic result ready for next season when I would expect much more of an attack on play offs/promotion.

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Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:21 pm

Success this season for me would be to avoid relegation the double over the djbs and Wurzels and beat Leeds.

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Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:22 pm

Commented elsewhere but will repeat here:

I don’t think anyone can be too surprised. We have a decent starting 11 when everyone is fit, but we just don’t have the depth to maintain it over the course of a season.

None of the players who have played week in week out can really be blamed as they just haven’t been able to have the rest they need due to the lack of quality in depth.

Hopefully January can address this and keep us in playoff contention and then another summer and I think we’ll be good to go next year.

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Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:48 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Sven wrote:Some of those players are pretty good when compared to last season's mob and we must remember Bulut himself is both new to the country and to the Championship...

They say new players need to 'bed themselves in' and we've seen loads of examples of questionable 'first season's' only to huge leaos forward in the next (season)

For me, Erol Bulut is still finding his feet and working out his best team and formation with little in the background to play with...

January should see a big leap forward in squad strength and depth and that should reflect in more consistency on the field of play..

However, I always saw next season as a defining one for club and manager with the caveat that he (Bulut) has done more than enough to warrant our support and patience. Afterall, as many of us have stated already, who truly expected us to be in touch with the top 6 at this point of this season...

I'll hold my hands up and say "not me!" :ayatollah:



Chris,

He def deserves so far to stay for the whole of this season and come say March decide on next season, We do need stability and hopefully Bulut is the one for this.

But I am 50/50 on him.

He is better than Morison, Slade, Harris, Hudson, Trollope etc but then most managers are :lol:

Annis, I agree on the 'hold the contract' comments but I firmly believe we wom't be drawn back into the relegation melee...! :thumbup: :ayatollah:

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Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:14 pm

1. We no longer press when without the ball. No desire to win the ball back.

2. No bugger moves into space when we do have the ball. This limits our options and we inevitably pass backwards or sideways (killing any quick counter attack)

3. Too similar midfield. All are negative breaker uppers with no creativity.

4. Too weak up front. Cannot hold the ball and prevent it returning back into danger.

5. Defenders playing tippy tappy roulette between themselves and the keeper, putting each other needlessly under pressure.

6. Poor keepers. Yes plural.

7. A reluctance and too afraid to have a go and shoot.

8. Far too much tinkering with the team. Bulut needs to work out his best side and formation and fast. I can only assume all the constant chopping and changing is upsetting the side. Siopis for example has gone to pot compared to when he first joined us.


If Bulut is now punching doors, he needs to transfer some of that aggression into his team and make us a nasty horrible side again. Teams come to CCS expecting to have all the possession.

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Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:34 pm

Has he made mistakes yes he has. Has he been in job less than 6 months....Has the team improve dramtically yes it has. Over to.play offs than relegation. Goutas and siopis are brilliant signings with more coming we believe.

Get a grip and get behind a manager who shows passion and has at times made us lay very well. Its the Championship it's the hatdest league in the world. He is making mistakes like keeper but no manager is perfect.

I think some fans questioning Bulut this early when positives are obvious to me. We are in poor form and need to stick with it with more patience. Ralls Ramsey and siopis was quality and missed badly

We beat jacks and Bristol too....

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Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:29 am

I've said it before without Ralls we are a shambles. Yet Erol alway subs him and our game then goes to pot.My midfield would be Ralls, Ramsey and Siopis when all are fit.

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Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:13 am

Ramsey10 wrote:I've said it before without Ralls we are a shambles. Yet Erol alway subs him and our game then goes to pot.My midfield would be Ralls, Ramsey and Siopis when all are fit.


Silly bugger, if Ralls is not 100% you look after him by subbing him when possible and not by running him into the ground.

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Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:48 am

Ketteringblues wrote:1. We no longer press when without the ball. No desire to win the ball back.

2. No bugger moves into space when we do have the ball. This limits our options and we inevitably pass backwards or sideways (killing any quick counter attack)

3. Too similar midfield. All are negative breaker uppers with no creativity.

4. Too weak up front. Cannot hold the ball and prevent it returning back into danger.

5. Defenders playing tippy tappy roulette between themselves and the keeper, putting each other needlessly under pressure.

6. Poor keepers. Yes plural.

7. A reluctance and too afraid to have a go and shoot.

8. Far too much tinkering with the team. Bulut needs to work out his best side and formation and fast. I can only assume all the constant chopping and changing is upsetting the side. Siopis for example has gone to pot compared to when he first joined us.


If Bulut is now punching doors, he needs to transfer some of that aggression into his team and make us a nasty horrible side again. Teams come to CCS expecting to have all the possession.


Sums up our problems exactly. We’re so predictable and it’s easy to stop is playing. We need a plan b. If that means being more direct and playing down the channels then that’s fine by me. The pointless playing around the back four is ineffective and bad to watch. Keepers have cost up 4 goals this season alone.

Positives are that we have improved a lot on last season. Points tally shows that. Players to come back from injury and we can sign players in January. A mid table finish should be seen as a positive given we were lucky not to be relegated last season. Play off talk is way to optimistic without Ramsey. He is the difference make for us.

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Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:50 am

Sneggyblubird wrote:
Ramsey10 wrote:I've said it before without Ralls we are a shambles. Yet Erol alway subs him and our game then goes to pot.My midfield would be Ralls, Ramsey and Siopis when all are fit.


Silly bugger, if Ralls is not 100% you look after him by subbing him when possible and not by running him into the ground.

Be careful you're not seen as 'sensible', Martyn... ;)

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Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:32 pm

Sven wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
Ramsey10 wrote:I've said it before without Ralls we are a shambles. Yet Erol alway subs him and our game then goes to pot.My midfield would be Ralls, Ramsey and Siopis when all are fit.


Silly bugger, if Ralls is not 100% you look after him by subbing him when possible and not by running him into the ground.

Be careful you're not seen as 'sensible', Martyn... ;)


Agree - needs to be wrapped in cotton wool when possible, exactly the same as Ramsey.