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Racist Wolves Fan

Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:23 am

32 year old Jamie Arnold has been jailed for 6 months and received a 7 year football banning order, for racially abusing Rio Ferdinand. At a time when judges are being instructed not to jail rapists because the jails are rammed. Is this a disproportionately harsh sentence for words, no matter how obnoxious?

Re: Racist Wolves Fan

Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:54 am

Ridiculous really,massive fine and loads community work as well as the banning orders.

Re: Racist Wolves Fan

Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:36 pm

Jock wrote:32 year old Jamie Arnold has been jailed for 6 months and received a 7 year football banning order, for racially abusing Rio Ferdinand. At a time when judges are being instructed not to jail rapists because the jails are rammed. Is this a disproportionately harsh sentence for words, no matter how obnoxious?


It is definitely disproportionate, especially considering sentences for other, more serious crimes.

Re: Racist Wolves Fan

Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:34 pm

He was already on a Suspended Sentence Order. Given that, I totally agree with this disposal.

Otherwise, what does a Suspended Sentence Order mean?

Re: Racist Wolves Fan

Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:38 pm

Trigger wrote:He was already on a Suspended Sentence Order. Given that, I totally agree with this disposal.

Otherwise, what does a Suspended Sentence Order mean?


It means he goes to jail if he commits the crime again and that is what has happened to him.

Re: Racist Wolves Fan

Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:39 pm

Cardiff_CPT wrote:
Jock wrote:32 year old Jamie Arnold has been jailed for 6 months and received a 7 year football banning order, for racially abusing Rio Ferdinand. At a time when judges are being instructed not to jail rapists because the jails are rammed. Is this a disproportionately harsh sentence for words, no matter how obnoxious?


It is definitely disproportionate, especially considering sentences for other, more serious crimes.


But he was already on a warning hence why he has gone to jail.

Re: Racist Wolves Fan

Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:59 pm

Trigger wrote:He was already on a Suspended Sentence Order. Given that, I totally agree with this disposal.

Otherwise, what does a Suspended Sentence Order mean?

Fair point

Re: Racist Wolves Fan

Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:02 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Cardiff_CPT wrote:
Jock wrote:32 year old Jamie Arnold has been jailed for 6 months and received a 7 year football banning order, for racially abusing Rio Ferdinand. At a time when judges are being instructed not to jail rapists because the jails are rammed. Is this a disproportionately harsh sentence for words, no matter how obnoxious?


It is definitely disproportionate, especially considering sentences for other, more serious crimes.


But he was already on a warning hence why he has gone to jail.

As i understand it, the regurgitation of the suspended sentence made up just one month of the 6 month sentence recieved. Unless i read the article wrong.

Anyway, i think the point is, these sort of misdemeanours are disproportionate when compared to other more serious crimes. I think Jock is correct to flag it up