OT Immigration what can be done

Immigration is a massive and growing problem not just for our country but for practically all western nations. Personally I can’t see a non violent solution, something I’m not advocating for, but carrying on as we are will ultimately destroy this country.

There's no political will to solve it Jock. Labour and the Lib Dems want more of it, the Tories talk tough but are as weak as those two, which is worse. They all seem hell bent on encouraging more immigration, egged on by the BBC.

Turn back those who enter illegally, like we used to. If not through proper channels, your'e out. Most non-EU countries in the World do this. We should be one of them.

Disgraceful that humans are being used as political footballs but to me if you come here via legal channels you get vetted and allowed to stay if you meet a certain threshold BUT if you come illegally then you're out.

Braveman just lit the political touch paper. Discrimination for being gay should not be enough to warrant asylum. This should come fairly quickly to the boiling point I think.

Few things, when they pick them up in the channel take them back to France,it would kill two birds with one stone, soon as they know they can't come across they will no longer all head for the French beaches, second the EU need to close all there boarders,this open boarder has to stop ,I think everyone would agree no one has any problems in helping genuine people but be fair we all see the boats all young men most of them economic migrants,I don't like to say it but these countries some are coming from need financial help to stop people leaving,but countries like Pakistan etc which we already give loads to those immigrants should be sent straight back

Few things, when they pick them up in the channel take them back to France,it would kill two birds with one stone, soon as they know they can't come across they will no longer all head for the French beaches, second the EU need to close all there boarders,this open boarder has to stop ,I think everyone would agree no one has any problems in helping genuine people but be fair we all see the boats all young men most of them economic migrants,I don't like to say it but these countries some are coming from need financial help to stop people leaving,but countries like Pakistan etc which we already give loads to those immigrants should be sent straight back

The problem is the countries that improve economically give their citizens the money/means to afford to migrate.

There's no political will to solve it Jock. Labour and the Lib Dems want more of it, the Tories talk tough but are as weak as those two, which is worse. They all seem hell bent on encouraging more immigration, egged on by the BBC.

Turn back those who enter illegally, like we used to. If not through proper channels, your'e out. Most non-EU countries in the World do this. We should be one of them.

Labour do not “want more of it”, just read what they have said.

One thing I would point out is that the main reason for immigration being out of control isn’t because there is no system. It’s because this government has massively cut the number of staff at the Home Office dealing with immigration applications and appeals. That results in applicants simply waiting too long and, by their own admission, the Tories don’t know how many of those applying for immigration have simply merged into the population.

Austerity was popular with the Tories but they seem incapable of admitting that this crisis is a consequence of the decisions made as part of the austerity program.

There are piles and piles of applications simply waiting to be processed in the Home Office ……….. FACT.

Does anybody listen to Kier Starmer? Blair opened the floodgates, and both parties have done nothing. Don’t intend to.

There's no political will to solve it Jock. Labour and the Lib Dems want more of it, the Tories talk tough but are as weak as those two, which is worse. They all seem hell bent on encouraging more immigration, egged on by the BBC.

Turn back those who enter illegally, like we used to. If not through proper channels, your'e out. Most non-EU countries in the World do this. We should be one of them.

Labour do not “want more of it”, just read what they have said.

One thing I would point out is that the main reason for immigration being out of control isn’t because there is no system. It’s because this government has massively cut the number of staff at the Home Office dealing with immigration applications and appeals. That results in applicants simply waiting too long and, by their own admission, the Tories don’t know how many of those applying for immigration have simply merged into the population.

Austerity was popular with the Tories but they seem incapable of admitting that this crisis is a consequence of the decisions made as part of the austerity program.

There are piles and piles of applications simply waiting to be processed in the Home Office ……….. FACT.

So when globalist shill Starmer gets in and all the applicants are quickly processed, where will they live, how will the NHS, education system, and infrastructure cope. Apart from the dinghy invasion there about 500,000 migrating here legally each year to.

With the country £2.3 trillion in debt, I’d like to hear from the Captain how this will be reduced. Sunak also. Or piledriver even.

why not apply the cheapest option, we have navy and airforce practising on targets, let them get some proper live target practice, save a lot of money and hassle in the long run and send out a massive message - don't bother coming illegally - apply through the correct and appropriate channels and you may be welcomed.

Trouble is with Braverman is her attitude the same as the vampire before her.When will the english ever learn you can't tell other people how to run their own countries any more, colonialism doesn't work you still need diplomacy. You can't send them back to france because the french won't have them simple.The answer is to process them quicker and if they need funds to do it then I would suggest they drain it from the lastest Tory failure that is HS2.At the end of the day we do need to solve this crisis but it will only happen by gaining the co-operation from the relevant european countries.

Few things, when they pick them up in the channel take them back to France,it would kill two birds with one stone, soon as they know they can't come across they will no longer all head for the French beaches, second the EU need to close all there boarders,this open boarder has to stop ,I think everyone would agree no one has any problems in helping genuine people but be fair we all see the boats all young men most of them economic migrants,I don't like to say it but these countries some are coming from need financial help to stop people leaving,but countries like Pakistan etc which we already give loads to those immigrants should be sent straight back

Send them back to France ???? - That's the easy answer - So why has that not happened ??? - Easy Answer BREXIT
For those of you who voted to Leave ... You were sold a lie - As No Deal was done to sort this out
Along with the 40 Hospitals to be built ( still waiting ) - And for the record I Did not Vote to Stay or Leave
At the end of the day - We Are No Longer Part Of The EU - so France or any other Country in the EU .....
Don't need to take these people back from Us - That's why the Gov were trying to move them on to other countries .

Brexit was the withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the European Union at 23:00 GMT on 31 January 2020.

The UK is the only sovereign country to have left the EU. The UK had been a member state of the EU or its predecessor, the European Communities, since 1 January 1973.

We need to peacefully and legally reverse immigration or the native British will eventually be erased.

Demographics expert professor David Coleman has predicted that if nothing changes the native British will become a minority as soon as 2060. To me that's scandalous and immoral.

Few things, when they pick them up in the channel take them back to France,it would kill two birds with one stone, soon as they know they can't come across they will no longer all head for the French beaches, second the EU need to close all there boarders,this open boarder has to stop ,I think everyone would agree no one has any problems in helping genuine people but be fair we all see the boats all young men most of them economic migrants,I don't like to say it but these countries some are coming from need financial help to stop people leaving,but countries like Pakistan etc which we already give loads to those immigrants should be sent straight back

Send them back to France ???? - That's the easy answer - So why has that not happened ??? - Easy Answer BREXIT
For those of you who voted to Leave ... You were sold a lie - As No Deal was done to sort this out
Along with the 40 Hospitals to be built ( still waiting ) - And for the record I Did not Vote to Stay or Leave
At the end of the day - We Are No Longer Part Of The EU - so France or any other Country in the EU .....
Don't need to take these people back from Us - That's why the Gov were trying to move them on to other countries .

So when we were in the EU how many were returned under the Dublin agreement? Fact is we took more in under that than we returned. The mass migration problem transcends party politics but you just keep blaming the “evil Tories” or Brexit.

Few things, when they pick them up in the channel take them back to France,it would kill two birds with one stone, soon as they know they can't come across they will no longer all head for the French beaches, second the EU need to close all there boarders,this open boarder has to stop ,I think everyone would agree no one has any problems in helping genuine people but be fair we all see the boats all young men most of them economic migrants,I don't like to say it but these countries some are coming from need financial help to stop people leaving,but countries like Pakistan etc which we already give loads to those immigrants should be sent straight back

Send them back to France ???? - That's the easy answer - So why has that not happened ??? - Easy Answer BREXIT
For those of you who voted to Leave ... You were sold a lie - As No Deal was done to sort this out
Along with the 40 Hospitals to be built ( still waiting ) - And for the record I Did not Vote to Stay or Leave
At the end of the day - We Are No Longer Part Of The EU - so France or any other Country in the EU .....
Don't need to take these people back from Us - That's why the Gov were trying to move them on to other countries .

So when we were in the EU how many were returned under the Dublin agreement? Fact is we took more in under that than we returned. The mass migration problem transcends party politics but you just keep blaming the “evil Tories” or Brexit.

Jock, I very rarely come on here to comment on these kind of subjects as have been accused of being racist by the usual suspects in the past.

I am right of centre.

I think that Far right and Far left ideology is very dangerous.

Proud to be British, Proud to be Welsh.

I am proud to have voted for Brexit but really, really disappointed that the Conservatives Have wasted an 81 seat Majority to Change the UK for the better.

But, listening to Friends, Family and reports from within Europe, I think that the "sh#t" is about to hit the fan on this unlimited Illegal immigration in Germany, Poland, Hungary and France and then the EU will have to listen to their people.

Suella Braveman is correct in saying that integration of Multiculturalism has been too fast and that there are places in our cities where people have not integrated into British Culture and way of life.

Many people who have come to UK have integrated well and are an asset to the UK.

Sensibly put and having spoken at length to a German recently, you are absolutely right.

Almost impossible to stop sorry to say.
So many war zones.As for Braverman Sunack have added to the multiculturalism.
They should have stuck ti running corner shopd.

The problem in itself is now reaching critical we CANNOT sustain these levels .Blair let close to 3 million people in - the population of Wales, or close to. To suggest Brexit is one of the mail reasons is farcical. Illegal immigration is now an existential problem for the West full stop look at poor old Italy the Tories have failed miserably on this. I cannot see an answer
whilst organised crime makes huge sums of money. Our infrastructure within the UK is broken as it is health, homelessness,
education , transport et al. Have a look at New York we are not on our own. Solutions are readily bounced around but are they
feasible?

The problem in itself is now reaching critical we CANNOT sustain these levels .Blair let close to 3 million people in - the population of Wales, or close to. To suggest Brexit is one of the mail reasons is farcical. Illegal immigration is now an existential problem for the West full stop look at poor old Italy the Tories have failed miserably on this. I cannot see an answer
whilst organised crime makes huge sums of money. Our infrastructure within the UK is broken as it is health, homelessness,
education , transport et al. Have a look at New York we are not on our own. Solutions are readily bounced around but are they
feasible?

I just don’t see how it can be stopped

The problem in itself is now reaching critical we CANNOT sustain these levels .Blair let close to 3 million people in - the population of Wales, or close to. To suggest Brexit is one of the mail reasons is farcical. Illegal immigration is now an existential problem for the West full stop look at poor old Italy the Tories have failed miserably on this. I cannot see an answer
whilst organised crime makes huge sums of money. Our infrastructure within the UK is broken as it is health, homelessness,
education , transport et al. Have a look at New York we are not on our own. Solutions are readily bounced around but are they
feasible?

I just don’t see how it can be stopped

It does look bleak for us white Europeans, but you never know, things can change quickly and immigration can then be reversed in Europe, done systematically in a legal & orderly manner. I could go into more detail but i don't want to get banned but Islam has no place in Europe if you ask me.

Immigration after Brexit was doomed to fail.

We had the 3 main parties against Brexit and that is why it was doomed from the start. We have been sold right down the river with this institution who obviously have an agenda.

We all should be realising now that very little will be done about it.

The problem in itself is now reaching critical we CANNOT sustain these levels .Blair let close to 3 million people in - the population of Wales, or close to. To suggest Brexit is one of the mail reasons is farcical. Illegal immigration is now an existential problem for the West full stop look at poor old Italy the Tories have failed miserably on this. I cannot see an answer
whilst organised crime makes huge sums of money. Our infrastructure within the UK is broken as it is health, homelessness,
education , transport et al. Have a look at New York we are not on our own. Solutions are readily bounced around but are they
feasible?

I just don’t see how it can be stopped

It does look bleak for us white Europeans, but you never know, things can change quickly and immigration can then be reversed in Europe, done systematically in a legal & orderly manner. I could go into more detail but i don't want to get banned but Islam has no place in Europe if you ask me.

Gadaffi, Erdogan and other Muslim leaders have stated “Islam will conquer Europe with the wombs of Muslim women” I worry what kind of a country my Grandkids will inherit.

Immigration after Brexit was doomed to fail.

We had the 3 main parties against Brexit and that is why it was doomed from the start. We have been sold right down the river with this institution who obviously have an agenda.

We all should be realising now that very little will be done about it.

We also have a politically bias civil service actively working against Brexit.

Immigration after Brexit was doomed to fail.

We had the 3 main parties against Brexit and that is why it was doomed from the start. We have been sold right down the river with this institution who obviously have an agenda.

We all should be realising now that very little will be done about it.

We also have a politically bias civil service actively working against Brexit.

That was very evident when I went to work for them. Brexit is turning out to be pointless.

Immigration after Brexit was doomed to fail.

We had the 3 main parties against Brexit and that is why it was doomed from the start. We have been sold right down the river with this institution who obviously have an agenda.

We all should be realising now that very little will be done about it.

We also have a politically bias civil service actively working against Brexit.

That was very evident when I went to work for them. Brexit is turning out to be pointless.

The old maxim “if voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it” proven true.

The problem is duty of an MP, as bound by the Oath of Allegiance. It is to serve the King, not the will or wishes of the people. If that archaic was revised, then bingo. I fear that our political system has somewhat given up on the honest Brit.

Dickens complained about it in 1854.