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Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:25 am

Arsenal legend Aaron Ramsey a surprise name in French club’s pre-season plans. Don't know what to make of this? If true then we move on, but dalman you promised us we'd get a name that would sell 18 k plus, if turns out to not be true once again then us fans won't forgive you.

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:57 am

Bluebirds2003 wrote:Arsenal legend Aaron Ramsey a surprise name in French club’s pre-season plans. Don't know what to make of this? If true then we move on, but dalman you promised us we'd get a name that would sell 18 k plus, if turns out to not be true once again then us fans won't forgive you.

It’s The Sun. Don’t panic.

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:27 am

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Bluebirds2003 wrote:Arsenal legend Aaron Ramsey a surprise name in French club’s pre-season plans. Don't know what to make of this? If true then we move on, but dalman you promised us we'd get a name that would sell 18 k plus, if turns out to not be true once again then us fans won't forgive you.

It’s The Sun. Don’t panic.

The rest of the players who were involved in international matches over the summer: Kasper Schmeichel (Denmark), Aaron Ramsey (Wales), Khephren Thuram (France U21s) and Ayoub Amraoui (Morocco U21s) will join up with the squad next week.

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:28 am

Nice offical website .

The rest of the players who were involved in international matches over the summer: Kasper Schmeichel (Denmark), Aaron Ramsey (Wales), Khephren Thuram (France U21s) and Ayoub Amraoui (Morocco U21s) will join up with the squad next week.

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:30 am

Not what we want to hear but if I was a betting man I’d say he’d be signed by early next week at latest. Fingers crossed

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:23 am

I'd say it'll be confirmed this week.

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:26 am

It's hopefully just crap journalism cos he has nt signed anywhere yet

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:52 am

Bluebird 67 wrote:It's hopefully just crap journalism cos he has nt signed anywhere yet


If you go to OGC Nice official website you will see that Ramsey has been named in their 2023-24 squad and given a squad number which is different to last season.
The site also says that Ramsey will return to training at the beginning of next week.
If Nice have triggered the one year contract extension, which they are entitled to do, then Ramsey is their player.
If Nice demand a fee to cancel this contract, we won't be able to sign him!

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:00 am

DITH80 wrote:
Bluebird 67 wrote:It's hopefully just crap journalism cos he has nt signed anywhere yet


If you go to OGC Nice official website you will see that Ramsey has been named in their 2023-24 squad and given a squad number which is different to last season.
The site also says that Ramsey will return to training at the beginning of next week.
If Nice have triggered the one year contract extension, which they are entitled to do, then Ramsey is their player.
If Nice demand a fee to cancel this contract, we won't be able to sign him!


Depends whose favour the trigger option is in. I suspect because of his injury problems Ramsey might have negotiated he could trigger a longer deal with Nice if he played say 30 games last season. Hopefully it is Ramsey that is the one that can trigger the option if he wanted to and not Nice. We will just have to wait and see.

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:07 am

This is concerning. It doesn't seem an oversight if they've given him a new squad number and expect him to stay with them for next season. It may be out of his and our hands. It appears that we are supposedly "just waiting" for paperwork from Nice. Let's hope that it comes.

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:14 am

Nice won't want to upset Tan cos they know he'll sue them :lol:

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:18 am

BLUE54 wrote:This is concerning. It doesn't seem an oversight if they've given him a new squad number and expect him to stay with them for next season. It may be out of his and our hands. It appears that we are supposedly "just waiting" for paperwork from Nice. Let's hope that it comes.


The contract extension has been triggered by OGC Nice relating to the number of appearances Ramsey made last season.
City are obviously hoping that Nice will cancel this contract. They may however want a fee to do so. In that case we won't be able to sign him.
Lets hope the Jacks or Bristol City don't become interested!

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:25 am

Surely if they had the right to an extension this would have to be done before the old one ran out? And if it was done, why the hell has everyone been kept in the dark over this. Ramsey obviously must have known, but Dalman?

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:33 am

JJ1927 wrote:Surely if they had the right to an extension this would have to be done before the old one ran out? And if it was done, why the hell has everyone been kept in the dark over this. Ramsey obviously must have known, but Dalman?

My thoughts exactly

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:36 am

JJ1927 wrote:Surely if they had the right to an extension this would have to be done before the old one ran out? And if it was done, why the hell has everyone been kept in the dark over this. Ramsey obviously must have known, but Dalman?


I've no faith in Dalman or Choo. Probably didn't have a clue about this contract extension.
If Ramsey is keen to return to City, why has the deal taken so long? Clearly a problem exists. Dalman hasn't got a clue!

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:59 am

I've just checked on their site for the player list for next season, and his name is NOT on their player list . It was on last years list though. So hopefully :bluescarf:

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:25 am

BLUE54 wrote:I've just checked on their site for the player list for next season, and his name is NOT on their player list . It was on last years list though. So hopefully :bluescarf:


He shows for me plus they state on their website he is set to re-join them for training next week

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Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:55 am

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:Surely if they had the right to an extension this would have to be done before the old one ran out? And if it was done, why the hell has everyone been kept in the dark over this. Ramsey obviously must have known, but Dalman?

My thoughts exactly

It may be that it is AR's choice whether to trigger the extension, as he originally turned down a long contract!

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:15 pm

Igovernor wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:Surely if they had the right to an extension this would have to be done before the old one ran out? And if it was done, why the hell has everyone been kept in the dark over this. Ramsey obviously must have known, but Dalman?

My thoughts exactly

It may be that it is AR's choice whether to trigger the extension, as he originally turned down a long contract!


Yes - that's what I intimated above.

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:35 pm

I am sorry to say but, surely AR must have known this about the Nice option, Dalman and the Club are innocent people in this twist :oops:

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:09 pm

It seems to me that when such a clause is in a contract it is usually a half way measure.

For example you could have a player who wants a 3 or 4 year contract but the club, knowing the player is aging, do not want to commit to such a long contract for fear of paying someone who is not playing.

It is therefore common sense for a club (Nice in this instance) to suggest that if you play x number of games we will offer you an extension on your contract at a minimum of the same salary.

Despite an extension being offered the player does not have to accept that extension

That is my take on it.

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:20 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:It seems to me that when such a clause is in a contract it is usually a half way measure.

For example you could have a player who wants a 3 or 4 year contract but the club, knowing the player is aging, do not want to commit to such a long contract for fear of paying someone who is not playing.

It is therefore common sense for a club (Nice in this instance) to suggest that if you play x number of games we will offer you an extension on your contract at a minimum of the same salary.

Despite an extension being offered the player does not have to accept that extension

That is my take on it.


Makes sense

So if Rambo wants to come home why are Nice not letting him go?

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:29 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:It seems to me that when such a clause is in a contract it is usually a half way measure.

For example you could have a player who wants a 3 or 4 year contract but the club, knowing the player is aging, do not want to commit to such a long contract for fear of paying someone who is not playing.

It is therefore common sense for a club (Nice in this instance) to suggest that if you play x number of games we will offer you an extension on your contract at a minimum of the same salary.

Despite an extension being offered the player does not have to accept that extension

That is my take on it.


Makes sense

So if Rambo wants to come home why are Nice not letting him go?

Maybe they are (or have).

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:13 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:It seems to me that when such a clause is in a contract it is usually a half way measure.

For example you could have a player who wants a 3 or 4 year contract but the club, knowing the player is aging, do not want to commit to such a long contract for fear of paying someone who is not playing.

It is therefore common sense for a club (Nice in this instance) to suggest that if you play x number of games we will offer you an extension on your contract at a minimum of the same salary.

Despite an extension being offered the player does not have to accept that extension

That is my take on it.


Makes sense

So if Rambo wants to come home why are Nice not letting him go?

Maybe they are (or have).


This lot couldn't run a bath, leave alone a football club!

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:17 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:It seems to me that when such a clause is in a contract it is usually a half way measure.

For example you could have a player who wants a 3 or 4 year contract but the club, knowing the player is aging, do not want to commit to such a long contract for fear of paying someone who is not playing.

It is therefore common sense for a club (Nice in this instance) to suggest that if you play x number of games we will offer you an extension on your contract at a minimum of the same salary.

Despite an extension being offered the player does not have to accept that extension

That is my take on it.


Makes sense

So if Rambo wants to come home why are Nice not letting him go?


Maybe they are trying to suggest to him to take an extension so they can sell him for a fee. Only that doesn't fit with Rambo's plans - because we cant pay a fee.

Just a suggestion ?

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:24 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:It seems to me that when such a clause is in a contract it is usually a half way measure.

For example you could have a player who wants a 3 or 4 year contract but the club, knowing the player is aging, do not want to commit to such a long contract for fear of paying someone who is not playing.

It is therefore common sense for a club (Nice in this instance) to suggest that if you play x number of games we will offer you an extension on your contract at a minimum of the same salary.

Despite an extension being offered the player does not have to accept that extension

That is my take on it.


Makes sense

So if Rambo wants to come home why are Nice not letting him go?


Maybe they are trying to suggest to him to take an extension so they can sell him for a fee. Only that doesn't fit with Rambo's plans - because we cant pay a fee.

Just a suggestion ?


Or dare I say it, Ramsey is having second thoughts about coming home. LA is nice this time of year.

Re: Ramsey deal off?

Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:32 pm

JJ1927 wrote:Surely if they had the right to an extension this would have to be done before the old one ran out? And if it was done, why the hell has everyone been kept in the dark over this. Ramsey obviously must have known, but Dalman?

Correct; it would have been done and dusted 'at point of trigger' :ayatollah: