Whats the Future for Apparently one of Cardiff's Best Signin

Whats the Future for Apparently one of Cardiff's Best Signings ?




Glen Williams Media Wales, Steve Morison ex Cardiff City Manager, Darren Purse and Chairman Mehmet Dalman All said that Ollie Tanner from FC Lewis was going to be one of the best signings of the season.

Ollie Tanner aged 21 Signed before the beginning of last season, did really well in a Testimonial match v Villa, But never made one League appearance for the Bluebirds and only making the bench on the opening game.

Three different managers and a Caretaker manager at Cardiff City never once gave Tanner a League game.

Tanner was then sent out to struggling Non League York City for 5 months and under 2 managers there made only 3 starts and3 on the bench??

A manager Harry Harris in the the same league as Tanner said FC Lewis was about the standard for Tanner.







BUT DARREN PURSE & THE LOCAL MEDIA STILL INSISTS TANNER WILL MAKE ???






Todays Local Media & Darren Purse Still continue to big Tanner Up.




Cardiff City's bright young thing told what he must now do after frustrating year

The young winger signed from non-League Lewes FC but had a difficult first season in the Welsh capital


By Glen Williams Media Wales


Monday 12th June 2023


A rasping, left-footed shot drilled into the corner of Aston Villa's ( Friendly / Testimonial) goal past the helpless Filip Marschall was a timely, but all-too-rare, reminder of Ollie Tanner's talents this year.

Cardiff City were thrilled when they had snatched his signature amid stiff competition from a host of Championship clubs, and even one or two peering eyes from the Premier League, after the young winger had stood out in non-league football with Lewes FC.


Given he had made the step up from the seventh tier of English football, though, it was perhaps fanciful to think he was going to come in and make a meaningful impact on the first team. So some time in the under-21s, despite him being named on the bench for the opening-day win against Norwich City.

The plan then altered for him to go out and get some loan experience at a higher level than at which he had been playing and Mark Hudson's contact at York City, in the National League, was keen to take him. Suffice to say, it did not go according to plan.

He played just six games, starting only three, and was jettisoned from the squad after February, which coincided with David Webb leaving the Minstermen as their manager. Hardly what Tanner himself, nor Cardiff City, had in mind.

It's clear there is talent there. Perhaps with the hype surrounding his arrival following the Spurs saga, there was an element of trying too hard or sometimes forcing things to happen during his time playing for Darren Purse's under-21s. But a friendly against Aston Villa in November, which included him coming up against Premier League winner Ashley Young at right-back, he acquitted himself well and offered glimpses of what might come if his talent is harnessed.

The disappointment of his subsequent loan to Non League York City is clearly frustrating for him and for the club, but it's what happens next which will define him as a Cardiff player.

For Purse, who spent as much time as anyone at the club with him over the last year, he is under no illusion that the talent is there. But he urged young Tanner to use this setback to re-ignite the spark during pre-season and into next year.




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"His ability is outstanding," said under-21s boss Purse. "He has got a great left foot and can pick a pass when he needs to.

"People say about failed loans and loans that don't work, stuff like that, for me, I don't think there is any such thing as a failed loan, because sometimes players need a reality check.

"Players can be cocooned in that under-21s environment, thinking 'This is great, full-time football' and all that, but sometimes you need that reality check to say - 'I'm not quite where I need to be at this moment in time'.

"That doesn't mean to say that in two, three, four years' time you're not going to be there. For Ollie Tanner, he has obviously got to go and understand why the loan didn't work and why he didn't play as much as he should have, because his ability is unquestionable."

Purse sees it a lot with players in youth football. Indeed, Wales youth international Taylor Jones' loan spell at Weston-super-Mare didn't go according to plan, but he sucked it up and made the required changes upon his return.

Purse thinks Tanner could learn a thing or two from the centre-back, who has however subsequently been released, after his own struggles at York.

"Hopefully that clicks with him," Purse said of Tanner. "We had it with Taylor Jones a little bit this year, when he went to Weston-super-Mare, he didn't play as much as he would have hoped, came back and was a different character. He came back, hit the gym really hard and really understood what he needed to do to go and play in the men's game.

"Ollie Tanner has maybe got to do that, look in the mirror and say 'What do I need to do?', not, 'Oh the manager didn't like me, I didn't play, they didn't play the way I wanted to play.'

"He has got to ask what he needs to do to get himself in the first team or another loan at a club and it goes well."

The straight-talking from Purse will do Tanner the world of good, especially considering new first-team boss Erol Bulut is unlikely to carry any passengers this season as he looks to make an impression.

For followers of Tanner's social media, however, you will have seen the fitness work he is putting in during the off-season ahead of his second year with the Bluebirds. A season he no doubt hopes will be far more fruitful than his first.

Because he certainly has the ability to make his move to Cardiff a real success. A full year in a professional environment, complete with some frustrations and challenges, will have done him no harm at all in the long run.

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There's a negative trend appearing with youngsters in our club, isn't there?

Through the summer, we should be speculating about who's going to break into the first team..... but its about how they are leaving or going backwards since joining.

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There's a negative trend appearing with youngsters in our club, isn't there?

Through the summer, we should be speculating about who's going to break into the first team..... but its about how they are leaving or going backwards since joining.

Sadly because none of them are making the first team or if they get in the squad they are not picked.

The problem is The Hierarchy and backed up by our local
Media have tried to make us believe in the last 2 years about 14 players have all made it to Championship level yet none were even started in the end ??

We want them to make it, but be honest about them, they should not build them up like stars.

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There's a negative trend appearing with youngsters in our club, isn't there?

Through the summer, we should be speculating about who's going to break into the first team..... but its about how they are leaving or going backwards since joining.

Sadly because none of them are making the first team or if they get in the squad they are not picked.

The problem is The Hierarchy and backed up by our local
Media have tried to make us believe in the last 2 years about 14 players have all made it to Championship level yet none were even started in the end ??

We want them to make it, but be honest about them, they should not build them up like stars.

Spot on, well said!

I've said it elsewhere, but Purse should have an objective of 'xx' players to break the first team squad every season. Failure to do so must have consequences!

I thought he was good against Villa, I'd give him a go

I thought he was good against Villa, I'd give him a go

Yes but a friendly is totally different than a real game.

Why have now 4 different Cardiff managers not started Tan, one York City manager and the other just gave him 3 starts and gave up on him??

We are talking York City

He’s 21 yrs old.

If Erol and mean if Erol ?? Is going to have players like Mark Harris and Ollie Tanner next season in the First Team Squad , then I will state like I have done for the last 3 yrs then there is No real hope for us next season.

We need quality Championship players

There's a negative trend appearing with youngsters in our club, isn't there?

Through the summer, we should be speculating about who's going to break into the first team..... but its about how they are leaving or going backwards since joining.

Sadly because none of them are making the first team or if they get in the squad they are not picked.

The problem is The Hierarchy and backed up by our local
Media have tried to make us believe in the last 2 years about 14 players have all made it to Championship level yet none were even started in the end ??

We want them to make it, but be honest about them, they should not build them up like stars.

Spot on, well said!

I've said it elsewhere, but Purse should have an objective of 'xx' players to break the first team squad every season. Failure to do so must have consequences!

If he does not succeed this season then Purse needs to go.

He looked a promising signing when he signed. I expected him to spend the first half of the season with the U23s and then become more involved with the first team squad in the second half of the season with a view to being a regular part of the first team squad next season.

He didn't do well with the U23s. So then I hoped his loan to York would help but he barely played.

Some of the blame could be attached to the player obviously.

But, in my view, more of the blame goes to Darren Purse. As the U23s manager, it is his job to get those players either ready to work with the first team or at least show a bit of progress.

Very few if any have made progress with Purse.

We don't have a great amount of young players with potential to be Championship players but there are a few including Tanner. However they need the right coaching and management from the youth set up before they can be anywhere near the first team squad or even do well at a lower league team out on loan.

That good coaching and management is unfortunately non existent under Purse.

I'm not a big fan of Morison at all, but when he was in charge of the U23s he did a much better job than Purse at getting players ready to work with the first team or ready to go out on loan.

He looked a promising signing when he signed. I expected him to spend the first half of the season with the U23s and then become more involved with the first team squad in the second half of the season with a view to being a regular part of the first team squad next season.

He didn't do well with the U23s. So then I hoped his loan to York would help but he barely played.

Some of the blame could be attached to the player obviously.

But, in my view, more of the blame goes to Darren Purse. As the U23s manager, it is his job to get those players either ready to work with the first team or at least show a bit of progress.

Very few if any have made progress with Purse.

We don't have a great amount of young players with potential to be Championship players but there are a few including Tanner. However they need the right coaching and management from the youth set up before they can be anywhere near the first team squad or even do well at a lower league team out on loan.

That good coaching and management is unfortunately non existent under Purse.

I'm not a big fan of Morison at all, but when he was in charge of the U23s he did a much better job than Purse at getting players ready to work with the first team or ready to go out on loan.

Totally agree with everything you’ve said Ned,

Purse is not bringing them through and just wanting to send them off to Welsh League or Non League, pathetic.

when ever I hear promising from an academy coach I translate that to be bang average Not one of the academy managers has had the balls to say that our group of players are just not good enough . The reason why it makes them look bad and it is all about protecting their job .
We really have not had a decent bunch of academy players since the Ramsey period and I am had pressed to think of many very good / great players to come out of South Wales in the last 10 years The better ones seemed to have come through at Swansea and maybe Daniel James the only really decent player

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