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O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:47 pm

The Welsh government want to give migrants who are turning 18 £1600 a month plus legal aid to fight to stay here , please tell me this is a wind up FFS

Re: O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:36 pm

Let me guess, you saw it on facebook.

Re: O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:05 pm

No it was on GB news and in the news paper today,and it came along the headline on bbc

Re: O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:13 pm

Is this the same Labour-led Welsh Assembly Government who can't afford decent pay-rises for their hard-working public employees, close leisure and other public facilities and services with importuity, whilst upping their own earnings and pensions and (coming soon) Assembly Member numbers? :?

They don't give a fig about what the 'people' want as they are superior to those they 'claim' to serve

Never wanted them, twice voted not to have them and all they've ever done is prove me right! :cry:

Re: O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:31 am

DEVOLUTION: A failed experiment by Tony Blair who destroyed the Labour movement as we knew it.
Time to rip it up as the bunch of wanna be councillors in Cardiff Bay and Holyrood couldn't run a raffle.

Re: O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:32 am

Welshman in CA wrote:Let me guess, you saw it on facebook.


Genuine route of the WAG, not everything on here is made up.

Re: O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:46 am

The WAG has no money of its own, it’s our money. We are absolutely swamped by migrants and can’t house the ones already here, consequently local hotels are full of them, yet that clown Drakeford thinks this is a good idea. He’s a virtue signalling &£#@ who hasn’t had a pragmatic thought in his life, time to vote him out, sadly there’s nobody waiting in the wings to drag the country out of the mess he’s created.

Re: O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:18 am

Jock wrote:The WAG has no money of its own, it’s our money. We are absolutely swamped by migrants and can’t house the ones already here, consequently local hotels are full of them, yet that clown Drakeford thinks this is a good idea. He’s a virtue signalling &£#@ who hasn’t had a pragmatic thought in his life, time to vote him out, sadly there’s nobody waiting in the wings to drag the country out of the mess he’s created.

Jock, the thought of the next self-seeking, minority-pleasing sychophant already in line genuinely scares me...

London is bad enough but these wannabe someones in WAG just add more salts to the wounds :cry:

Re: O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:23 am

The only way to solve this mess is mass deportations. Mass immigration is a curse that'll see the death of Britain/Europe as we know it. There needs to be a referendum, We were never asked.

Re: O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:29 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:The only way to solve this mess is mass deportations. Mass immigration is a curse that'll see the death of Britain/Europe as we know it. There needs to be a referendum, We were never asked.

Agree , it's got to he controlled to our needs .

Re: O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Wed Apr 19, 2023 2:52 pm

meanwhile back in the real world

i walked up st marys street cardiff yesterday morning about 7am...there are british people sleeping in shop doorways

the only people that want the illegal immigrants to stay in this country are the lefty lawyers looking for loopholes while making a huge amount from the taxpayer.
one london law firm made over 3 million pounds last year

giving illegal criminals 1600 pounds a month is only going to encourage more to come over

1600 pounds is more than twice the state pension

Re: O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:10 pm

Think a nasty tipping point is fast approaching.

Re: O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:11 pm

£1600 is more than my take home pay after tax etc :-o

Re: O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:06 pm

Surely this is to insane to be true

Re: O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:52 pm

Jestrix wrote:£1600 is more than my take home pay after tax etc :-o

So Drakeford values a migrant, whos never paid a penny in UK taxes, at £400 per week and a pensioner, who’s been chipping in for half a century, at £200 per week. What am I missing here?

Re: O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:01 pm

wez1927 wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:The only way to solve this mess is mass deportations. Mass immigration is a curse that'll see the death of Britain/Europe as we know it. There needs to be a referendum, We were never asked.

Agree , it's got to he controlled to our needs .

I've nothing against immigration persay. In reality, it's no different than emigration in that people will want to move around to suit their own needs and/or circumstances. It's no different in many ways to moving from city to city...

Cardiff is historically a very welcoming, cosmipolitan city; but it has to be controlled and be both beneficial and economic...

Just take a look at Swansea, if you want to see what 'keeping it local' results in...! ;) :laughing6:

Re: O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:54 pm

We really have to vote these tw-ts out... Unbelievable

Re: O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:01 pm

litoblues wrote:We really have to vote these tw-ts out... Unbelievable

It'll never happen as long as there are sheep in Wales...! ;) :laughing6:

Re: O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:40 am

By David Deans
BBC Wales political reporter

The prime minister has attacked Welsh Labour for allowing some asylum seeker children to take part in Wales' basic income pilot.

The £20m scheme offers £1,600 a month to 18-year-olds leaving care, including unaccompanied asylum seekers.

Mr Sunak said it was unbelievable ministers wanted to pay "illegal migrants".

The Welsh government has said it wanted to help young asylum seekers rebuild their lives.

While it is not clear how many asylum seekers are claiming the cash, BBC Wales was told a small number of asylum seekers are taking part.

The Welsh government denied that the young people involved are illegal migrants.

Ministers launched the basic income scheme last year to see how the payments could help care leavers be better placed as they become more independent.

From the start of the project, unaccompanied asylum seeker children (UASC) turning 18 have been able to apply for the money, which amounts to £1,280 a month after tax.

Young care leavers to get £1,600 a month in scheme
Can asylum seekers reach the UK legally?
What is a universal basic income?

The scheme offers unconditional monthly payments for two years to those who have been in care for 13 weeks.

Figures up to 8 March showed there were 294 recipients of the basic income pilot. It is expected around 500 will eventually join by the time the scheme closes to new applicants in June.

A total of 152 recipients have said they were Welsh, 57 said they were British and 37 said they were English. A total of 35 described their nationality as other, within that there were 29 different nationalities.

13 did not provide a response to the question.
'Extraordinary'

Wednesday's row began after the Welsh government made a request for legal aid rules to be eased for recipients of the pilot. Conservative ministers have refused.

In the House of Commons on Wednesday Welsh Secretary David TC Davies said Labour ministers wanted to exempt asylum seekers "from having to pay the same legal bills the rest of us would be subject to".

In response the Welsh government said their request on legal aid only related to those with active asylum claims at the point of leaving care, and said ministers were asking for aid to continue for vulnerable people who have left the care system and were taking part in the pilot.

Officials said the request was not about exempting young asylum seekers from the legal bills which would apply to others, as only asylum seekers need to progress an asylum claim to receive indefinite leave to remain in the UK.

Rishi Sunak, at Prime Minister's Questions, said: "I know the Labour leader has said that the Welsh Labour government is his blueprint, and unbelievably as my honourable member said, Labour in Wales are trying to pay illegal migrants £1,600.

"We're stopping the boats, Labour are paying for them".
'Right to be supported'

The Welsh government spokesperson said:  "In line with our Nation of Sanctuary approach, we want to ensure that unaccompanied asylum seeking children are supported to rebuild their lives and are not prevented from accessing appropriate Welsh government schemes and benefits to support their integration."

Later they added: "It is disappointing that inaccurate and misleading claims are being used to trivialise these sensitive issues."

The Welsh government has previously been unable to convince UK ministers to amend rules to prevent the cash from impacting an individual's benefit entitlement.

Three Welsh ministers, including Counsel General Mick Antoniw, wrote to the UK government in March asking if recipients of basic income could be exempted from means testing thresholds for legal aid.

Officials say it is unlikely those in receipt of basic income payments would qualify for legal aid under the "means" test, should they need legal representation.

The law society says that asylum seekers can be entitled to free legal advice to help with asylum claims if they have little or no money.

In response justice minister Lord Bellamy and David TC Davies rejected the Welsh government request.

They added: "Receipt of income from the pilot does not mean they would be ineligible for legal aid".

Re: O/T they want to give migrants £1600

Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:02 am

Sven wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:The only way to solve this mess is mass deportations. Mass immigration is a curse that'll see the death of Britain/Europe as we know it. There needs to be a referendum, We were never asked.

Agree , it's got to he controlled to our needs .

I've nothing against immigration persay. In reality, it's no different than emigration in that people will want to move around to suit their own needs and/or circumstances. It's no different in many ways to moving from city to city...

Cardiff is historically a very welcoming, cosmipolitan city; but it has to be controlled and be both beneficial and economic...

Just take a look at Swansea, if you want to see what 'keeping it local' results in...! ;) :laughing6:

Having sexual intercourse with your sister is beyond keeping it local.