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"It's 'skulduggery' but Bluebirds would have done the same"

Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:35 pm

"It's 'skulduggery' but Bluebirds would have done the same"



Former Bluebirds and Wales centre-back Danny Gabbidon has argued Cardiff would have used the same "skulduggery" tactics if the shoe was on the other foot.

While Cardiff were in the ascendancy at New York Stadium, Gabbidon believes that if the shoe was on the other foot then the Bluebirds would have implemented a similar ploy.

"It's skullduggery, but if the shoe was on the other foot, Cardiff would have done exactly the same. I guarantee you," Gabbidon said on the same show.

"I don't know what the EFL will do. What will they do to punish them? I'm not really sure. Will they award Cardiff the three points? No.

"Rotherham will be up in arms (if it starts at 1-0). It will just get replayed again. From a Cardiff point of view, it's not nice. If you're on the receiving end, you're 1-0 up and you're seeing what's happening with the ground staff, you're not going to be happy.

"But if it was Cardiff, the opposite way around, and they were 1-0 down, I'm sure they wouldn't be trying their hardest to get the water off, either! It's just the situation you're in."

Of the replay, the date of which is as yet unknown, he added: "To go again, after being 1-0 up, it didn't sound like Rotherham were very good, it sounded like Cardiff would have gone on to get the three points.

"To then replay it, Rotherham might have players back and it's a totally different game again.

"It's not nice to be on the other end it when there's skulduggery happening, but they've used the situation to their advantage - and most teams would!""
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Re: "It's 'skulduggery' but Bluebirds would have done the sa

Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:22 pm

But would the same punishment been given to us.

Re: "It's 'skulduggery' but Bluebirds would have done the sa

Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:24 pm

Absolutely ridiculous thing for Gabby to say, 'guaranteeing City would have done the same'.
They may, or may have not. Someone at the club should have a word with him.

Re: "It's 'skulduggery' but Bluebirds would have done the sa

Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:05 pm

Chris Holmes wrote:Absolutely ridiculous thing for Gabby to say, 'guaranteeing City would have done the same'.
They may, or may have not. Someone at the club should have a word with him.


Why? He doesn't work for the club.

Re: "It's 'skulduggery' but Bluebirds would have done the sa

Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:27 pm

SB 1927 wrote:
Chris Holmes wrote:Absolutely ridiculous thing for Gabby to say, 'guaranteeing City would have done the same'.
They may, or may have not. Someone at the club should have a word with him.


Why? He doesn't work for the club.

He's entitled to his opinion just like everyone else. Can't throw your toys out just because you don't agree with their opinion.

Re: "It's 'skulduggery' but Bluebirds would have done the sa

Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:33 pm

Just 'Gabbs' keeping hus foot in the media eye... ;)

Personally, at only one goal down, I don't see why a 'total' effort wasn't made to play the rest of the match...


As for the Rotherham 'supporters', I was surprised at how they 'celebrated' the games abandonment. They actually 'wanted' the match to go to a replay even after taking the time, effort and financial outlay to attend. The travelling Bluebirds were rightly angry and frustrated at their opponents antics...

I genuinely don't see too many Bluebird supporters in attendance at a home game with similar circumstances 'wanting' a game called off by getting their grounds staff (or some of) to make the situation worse or, at best, not making it better

Shame on Rotherham and bigger shame on the ground staffs who were visually 'happy' to be seen not doing their jobs and being applauded for it... :oops:

Re: "It's 'skulduggery' but Bluebirds would have done the sa

Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:15 pm

Sorry Gabbs, the world and his wife all agree that we've been cheated, just like with Derby and also that we should get the points or play H2 only and 1-0 up. As Chris says, it's just a comment to stay in front of the eyeballs.

Re: "It's 'skulduggery' but Bluebirds would have done the sa

Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:49 pm

There's an awful lot of wishful thinking on this topic i e that Cardiff fans wouldn't be celebrating if the shoe wasn't on the other foot. This board would have been full of comments of the referees decision to abandon was correct, the groundwater was too much. The groundsta ff work for Cardiff , a replayed match suits us being 1 nil down.
Quite nieve to not understand why the Rotherham fans were not celebrating. Their team was playing badly and 1 nil down at home against the team next to them in the table . If that was us, our line would be of course the game should be replayed from the start.

Football's full of cheating , all the players appealing for a throw in when it's obviously not yours, endless dissent, feigning injury, time wasting etc, etc. This not clearing of the water is just one example of it and no doubt Cardiff supporters would be queuing up to buy our groundsmen a pint of it was the other way round.

One last comment knowing City s history and luck it wouldn't surprise me if we lost the replayed game and went down as a result. Tan! Get the chequebook out for the lawyers!

Re: "It's 'skulduggery' but Bluebirds would have done the sa

Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:16 pm

How would it be the same at Cardiff ? We’ve got about 6 groundsman , and they would of been out straight away pushing the water off , and we would of had more rakers than just 2 lol .
And the sprinklers would of been turned off
And the drainage system would be working
And Danny I think your wrong for the first time ever

Re: "It's 'skulduggery' but Bluebirds would have done the sa

Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:58 pm

Gabbidon is spot on. If we were 1 nil down at home and the heavens opened and the pitch was saturated we would be very happy to look for an abandonment and the game to be replayed. We have just got to get on with it and smash them next time around ( there should be no need for a team talk beforehand ).

Re: "It's 'skulduggery' but Bluebirds would have done the sa

Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:01 am

mugsy wrote:Gabbidon is spot on. If we were 1 nil down at home and the heavens opened and the pitch was saturated we would be very happy to look for an abandonment and the game to be replayed. We have just got to get on with it and smash them next time around ( there should be no need for a team talk beforehand ).


Unfortunately it's not quite that simple as the Derby "snowgate" game showed when even a wound up Neil Warnock team heading for promotion got "smashed" by a Derby team that took advantage of their own bit of shithousery in postponing a game that should have gone ahead.

At least that game hadn't started whereas the relief that Rotherham will feel from having a perfectly good goal against them being wiped out and being given a second chance in a game there was a good chance they were going to lose will make the replay extremely difficult for City.

Re: "It's 'skulduggery' but Bluebirds would have done the sa

Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:18 am

Gabby with yet another attempt at being a journalist!!!
His opinion but it differs from mine.

Re: "It's 'skulduggery' but Bluebirds would have done the sa

Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:30 am

I don't like it when some just assumes that EVERYONE would do the same in any given scenario.

There are some honourable people left in the world. I hope.

Re: "It's 'skulduggery' but Bluebirds would have done the sa

Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:21 am

biglad6 wrote:There's an awful lot of wishful thinking on this topic i e that Cardiff fans wouldn't be celebrating if the shoe wasn't on the other foot. This board would have been full of comments of the referees decision to abandon was correct, the groundwater was too much. The groundsta ff work for Cardiff , a replayed match suits us being 1 nil down.
Quite nieve to not understand why the Rotherham fans were not celebrating. Their team was playing badly and 1 nil down at home against the team next to them in the table . If that was us, our line would be of course the game should be replayed from the start.

Football's full of cheating , all the players appealing for a throw in when it's obviously not yours, endless dissent, feigning injury, time wasting etc, etc. This not clearing of the water is just one example of it and no doubt Cardiff supporters would be queuing up to buy our groundsmen a pint of it was the other way round.

One last comment knowing City s history and luck it wouldn't surprise me if we lost the replayed game and went down as a result. Tan! Get the chequebook out for the lawyers!

Not for the first time, I find myself disagreeing with you. Had the game been at 3-0 to us at half-time (as it might have been) there might have been some justification for the skullduggery that took place. But a 1-0 it smacks of ganwsmanship and unprofessionalism...

Re: "It's 'skulduggery' but Bluebirds would have done the sa

Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:41 pm

Couldn't agree more gamesmanship, cheating whatever you want to call it. That's football. As I said 1 nil down at home against a team that s next to you in the table playing badly. It's a godsend for them. If it was us we'd be celebrating at having a replay at nil nil. Get real that's modern football whether you or I like it or not.

Re: "It's 'skulduggery' but Bluebirds would have done the sa

Sat Mar 25, 2023 3:45 am

Gabbidon getting paid to talk rubbish and trying to stay relevant.