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JasonFowler1991 wrote:If this is the narrative, he also got us promoted to the Premier League twice and to a Carling Cup final, making him our most successful manager.
You can't blame him for the downfalls and not credit him for the successes if we're using this "Tan is the manager" as our narrative.
Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:28 pm
Forever Blue wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:If this is the narrative, he also got us promoted to the Premier League twice and to a Carling Cup final, making him our most successful manager.
You can't blame him for the downfalls and not credit him for the successes if we're using this "Tan is the manager" as our narrative.
And he sacked them both managers because they would not listen to him and they were both loved by the fans
Just remember
Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:36 pm
JasonFowler1991 wrote:If this is the narrative, he also got us promoted to the Premier League twice and to a Carling Cup final, making him our most successful manager.
You can't blame him for the downfalls and not credit him for the successes if we're using this "Tan is the manager" as our narrative.
Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:38 pm
7777 glt wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:If this is the narrative, he also got us promoted to the Premier League twice and to a Carling Cup final, making him our most successful manager.
You can't blame him for the downfalls and not credit him for the successes if we're using this "Tan is the manager" as our narrative.
I can't imagine Warnock allowing any interference in team selection during his time at Cardiff
Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:39 pm
Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:41 pm
JasonFowler1991 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:If this is the narrative, he also got us promoted to the Premier League twice and to a Carling Cup final, making him our most successful manager.
You can't blame him for the downfalls and not credit him for the successes if we're using this "Tan is the manager" as our narrative.
And he sacked them both managers because they would not listen to him and they were both loved by the fans
Just remember
So when we do well, Tan's not the manager, and the managers are doing their job, but when we do bad, Tan is the manager and does the manager's job? Is that the logic?
Malky was fired after being caught sending questionable text messages about the owner, which would get you sacked in almost any job.
The other appeared to have lost his influence as an aging manager, and we were sliding down the table.
All I am asking for is consistency in the arguments and logic.
Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:47 pm
Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:48 pm
Forever Blue wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:If this is the narrative, he also got us promoted to the Premier League twice and to a Carling Cup final, making him our most successful manager.
You can't blame him for the downfalls and not credit him for the successes if we're using this "Tan is the manager" as our narrative.
And he sacked them both managers because they would not listen to him and they were both loved by the fans
Just remember
So when we do well, Tan's not the manager, and the managers are doing their job, but when we do bad, Tan is the manager and does the manager's job? Is that the logic?
Malky was fired after being caught sending questionable text messages about the owner, which would get you sacked in almost any job.
The other appeared to have lost his influence as an aging manager, and we were sliding down the table.
All I am asking for is consistency in the arguments and logic.
Open your eyes have a look at the amount of yes men and how we have faired and yes Tan picked them.
You know the list I can’t be bothered going through the pathetic list.
Just keep supporting Tan and you won’t have a club to follow.
TAN OUT
Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:49 pm
Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:20 pm
JasonFowler1991 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:If this is the narrative, he also got us promoted to the Premier League twice and to a Carling Cup final, making him our most successful manager.
You can't blame him for the downfalls and not credit him for the successes if we're using this "Tan is the manager" as our narrative.
And he sacked them both managers because they would not listen to him and they were both loved by the fans
Just remember
So when we do well, Tan's not the manager, and the managers are doing their job, but when we do bad, Tan is the manager and does the manager's job? Is that the logic?
Malky was fired after being caught sending questionable text messages about the owner, which would get you sacked in almost any job.
The other appeared to have lost his influence as an aging manager, and we were sliding down the table.
All I am asking for is consistency in the arguments and logic.
Open your eyes have a look at the amount of yes men and how we have faired and yes Tan picked them.
You know the list I can’t be bothered going through the pathetic list.
Just keep supporting Tan and you won’t have a club to follow.
TAN OUT
I'm not "supporting Tan."
I'm critically questioning your logic, as it's inconsistent. You can see from my previous posts I am in favor of him leaving for the right person.
I just ask for consistency and truth.
You talk about not having a club to support, yet a previous owner you are in awe of literally nearly took us out of business. It was a result of his poor management of the club, that we ended up with Ridsdale and then Tan. That was the direct consequence of his actions.
We all want the best for the club, so let's unite around that rather than dividing the fanbase, which is what much of the rhetoric (not all) I read on this board does.
Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:26 pm
Forever Blue wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:If this is the narrative, he also got us promoted to the Premier League twice and to a Carling Cup final, making him our most successful manager.
You can't blame him for the downfalls and not credit him for the successes if we're using this "Tan is the manager" as our narrative.
And he sacked them both managers because they would not listen to him and they were both loved by the fans
Just remember
So when we do well, Tan's not the manager, and the managers are doing their job, but when we do bad, Tan is the manager and does the manager's job? Is that the logic?
Malky was fired after being caught sending questionable text messages about the owner, which would get you sacked in almost any job.
The other appeared to have lost his influence as an aging manager, and we were sliding down the table.
All I am asking for is consistency in the arguments and logic.
Open your eyes have a look at the amount of yes men and how we have faired and yes Tan picked them.
You know the list I can’t be bothered going through the pathetic list.
Just keep supporting Tan and you won’t have a club to follow.
TAN OUT
I'm not "supporting Tan."
I'm critically questioning your logic, as it's inconsistent. You can see from my previous posts I am in favor of him leaving for the right person.
I just ask for consistency and truth.
You talk about not having a club to support, yet a previous owner you are in awe of literally nearly took us out of business. It was a result of his poor management of the club, that we ended up with Ridsdale and then Tan. That was the direct consequence of his actions.
We all want the best for the club, so let's unite around that rather than dividing the fanbase, which is what much of the rhetoric (not all) I read on this board does.
Are you serious? How can I unite with a Tan follower and sticks up for him.
We are more in debt than ever in our history / lowest position for 20 years / club in turmoil / Manager after manager / worst run on the pitch in 120 years etc etc etc etc etc
Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:36 pm
JasonFowler1991 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:If this is the narrative, he also got us promoted to the Premier League twice and to a Carling Cup final, making him our most successful manager.
You can't blame him for the downfalls and not credit him for the successes if we're using this "Tan is the manager" as our narrative.
And he sacked them both managers because they would not listen to him and they were both loved by the fans
Just remember
So when we do well, Tan's not the manager, and the managers are doing their job, but when we do bad, Tan is the manager and does the manager's job? Is that the logic?
Malky was fired after being caught sending questionable text messages about the owner, which would get you sacked in almost any job.
The other appeared to have lost his influence as an aging manager, and we were sliding down the table.
All I am asking for is consistency in the arguments and logic.
Open your eyes have a look at the amount of yes men and how we have faired and yes Tan picked them.
You know the list I can’t be bothered going through the pathetic list.
Just keep supporting Tan and you won’t have a club to follow.
TAN OUT
I'm not "supporting Tan."
I'm critically questioning your logic, as it's inconsistent. You can see from my previous posts I am in favor of him leaving for the right person.
I just ask for consistency and truth.
You talk about not having a club to support, yet a previous owner you are in awe of literally nearly took us out of business. It was a result of his poor management of the club, that we ended up with Ridsdale and then Tan. That was the direct consequence of his actions.
We all want the best for the club, so let's unite around that rather than dividing the fanbase, which is what much of the rhetoric (not all) I read on this board does.
Are you serious? How can I unite with a Tan follower and sticks up for him.
We are more in debt than ever in our history / lowest position for 20 years / club in turmoil / Manager after manager / worst run on the pitch in 120 years etc etc etc etc etc
So it's either "agree with me, or we cannot unite" - and that, at the heart of it, is much of the problem. Our fans are as much to blame for the divide as our board is.
Until common ground is found, we won't move forward, and our club will continue to eat itself. This isn't just true for football clubs, but for society as a whole.
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valleyrambill wrote:Please stop putting pictures of him on here he a vile big headed know it all. No one can argue with him as a business man as he is very rich man but you only have to listen to his interviews he thinks he is god and we all should admire him he says Malky didnt get us promoted he did, what a pile of shit the man is mad.
If we go down he will blame everyone but himself and the worry I have he will not sell then as the club will be worth even less in league 1 and he will think he will take us back up with his great skills on football you must shoot drop the goalkeeper as he did not score the man has issues and needs help.
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JasonFowler1991 wrote:If this is the narrative, he also got us promoted to the Premier League twice and to a Carling Cup final, making him our most successful manager.
You can't blame him for the downfalls and not credit him for the successes if we're using this "Tan is the manager" as our narrative.
Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:39 pm