Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:58 pm
Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:01 pm
wez1927 wrote:Nantes to be paid Wednesday..FIFA are going to lift ban .EFL won't let McGuinness come back until sorted.
Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:02 pm
Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:05 pm
wez1927 wrote:Nantes to be paid Wednesday..FIFA are going to lift ban .EFL won't let McGuinness come back until sorted.
Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:08 pm
dorsetblue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Nantes to be paid Wednesday..FIFA are going to lift ban .EFL won't let McGuinness come back until sorted.
Good news IF true, but I'd be very surprised if the EFL can actually stop us recalling our own player.
Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:08 pm
Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:09 pm
JasonFowler1991 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Nantes to be paid Wednesday..FIFA are going to lift ban .EFL won't let McGuinness come back until sorted.
Is that the full amount, or just the $5 million installment?
Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:11 pm
wez1927 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Nantes to be paid Wednesday..FIFA are going to lift ban .EFL won't let McGuinness come back until sorted.
Is that the full amount, or just the $5 million installment?
All I was told being paid and ban lifted .
Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:13 pm
Forever Blue wrote:It’s unbelievable, they have cost our club £5mill in costs etc and embarrassment.
But finally yet again Tan has to pay.
Glad it’s all over
Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:16 pm
JasonFowler1991 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:It’s unbelievable, they have cost our club £5mill in costs etc and embarrassment.
But finally yet again Tan has to pay.
Glad it’s all over
I think you are right. However I hope we start going after legitimate avenues such as those actually responsible
Payment or not, I don't think this will be the end of this saga.
Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:21 pm
JasonFowler1991 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:It’s unbelievable, they have cost our club £5mill in costs etc and embarrassment.
But finally yet again Tan has to pay.
Glad it’s all over
Payment or not, I don't think this will be the end of this saga.
Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:23 pm
wez1927 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:It’s unbelievable, they have cost our club £5mill in costs etc and embarrassment.
But finally yet again Tan has to pay.
Glad it’s all over
Payment or not, I don't think this will be the end of this saga.
Can see us suing people .
Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:25 pm
Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:28 pm
welshrarebit wrote:wez1927 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:It’s unbelievable, they have cost our club £5mill in costs etc and embarrassment.
But finally yet again Tan has to pay.
Glad it’s all over
Payment or not, I don't think this will be the end of this saga.
Can see us suing people .
Yep. That’s what we should have done from the start or at least following the end of the criminal case
Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:29 pm
Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:34 pm
Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:56 pm
JasonFowler1991 wrote:welshrarebit wrote:wez1927 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:It’s unbelievable, they have cost our club £5mill in costs etc and embarrassment.
But finally yet again Tan has to pay.
Glad it’s all over
Payment or not, I don't think this will be the end of this saga.
Can see us suing people .
Yep. That’s what we should have done from the start or at least following the end of the criminal case
We don't know all the details; while the club claimed Sala wasn't ours, what these cases have verified is that he was. So nobody can opt out of paying based on him not being a Cardiff player. This may have been needed to pursue those other avenues, but I am not sure.
I'm glad we will do our part and pay up. And if any avenues are legitimate, then I have no problem with us pursuing those after paying what we owe (for now).
Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:58 pm
Forever Blue wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:welshrarebit wrote:wez1927 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:It’s unbelievable, they have cost our club £5mill in costs etc and embarrassment.
But finally yet again Tan has to pay.
Glad it’s all over
Payment or not, I don't think this will be the end of this saga.
Can see us suing people .
Yep. That’s what we should have done from the start or at least following the end of the criminal case
We don't know all the details; while the club claimed Sala wasn't ours, what these cases have verified is that he was. So nobody can opt out of paying based on him not being a Cardiff player. This may have been needed to pursue those other avenues, but I am not sure.
I'm glad we will do our part and pay up. And if any avenues are legitimate, then I have no problem with us pursuing those after paying what we owe (for now).
EMILIANO SALA WAS 1,000% a CARDIFF CITY PLAYER.
One case was bad enough , but fir this Hierarchy to drag us through 3 cases , disgusting, disgraceful and costly to OUR CLUB.
Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:00 pm
Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:00 pm
welshrarebit wrote:If the embargo is lifted can we still go in for the other player we were linked with?
Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:00 pm
Forever Blue wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:welshrarebit wrote:wez1927 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:It’s unbelievable, they have cost our club £5mill in costs etc and embarrassment.
But finally yet again Tan has to pay.
Glad it’s all over
Payment or not, I don't think this will be the end of this saga.
Can see us suing people .
Yep. That’s what we should have done from the start or at least following the end of the criminal case
We don't know all the details; while the club claimed Sala wasn't ours, what these cases have verified is that he was. So nobody can opt out of paying based on him not being a Cardiff player. This may have been needed to pursue those other avenues, but I am not sure.
I'm glad we will do our part and pay up. And if any avenues are legitimate, then I have no problem with us pursuing those after paying what we owe (for now).
EMILIANO SALA WAS 1,000% a CARDIFF CITY PLAYER.
One case was bad enough , but fir this Hierarchy to drag us through 3 cases , disgusting, disgraceful and costly to OUR CLUB.
Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:17 pm
wez1927 wrote:Nantes to be paid Wednesday..FIFA are going to lift ban .EFL won't let McGuinness come back until sorted.
Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:17 pm
Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:23 pm
Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:27 pm
Floppsy wrote:Are we just going to pay the £5m to get the embargo lifted or pay Nantes the full £15m?
Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:28 pm
Ninian1962 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Nantes to be paid Wednesday..FIFA are going to lift ban .EFL won't let McGuinness come back until sorted.
No such thing said at today`s meeting and the Disabled Supporters Chair Keiran Jones ,who is being tweeted as the source of this quote, was there.
Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:32 pm
wez1927 wrote:Ninian1962 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Nantes to be paid Wednesday..FIFA are going to lift ban .EFL won't let McGuinness come back until sorted.
No such thing said at today`s meeting and the Disabled Supporters Chair Keiran Jones ,who is being tweeted as the source of this quote, was there.
This hasnt come from him
Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:43 pm
Ninian1962 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Ninian1962 wrote:wez1927 wrote:Nantes to be paid Wednesday..FIFA are going to lift ban .EFL won't let McGuinness come back until sorted.
No such thing said at today`s meeting and the Disabled Supporters Chair Keiran Jones ,who is being tweeted as the source of this quote, was there.
This hasnt come from him
The Tweet , which someone sent me a photo of, clearly states that it was the Chair of the DSA which Keiran is. So either he is being misquoted or someone else is claiming to be him or to have his role at the DSA.
Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:11 pm
Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:17 pm
Paul Keevil wrote:This is a good move by City. The 1st Court Action did us a favour by proving ES was our player. I say did us a favour because had we pursued the 2nd action Nantes could have argued he wasnt our player.
I know many have disagreed with what has happened but there are some benefits to us in getting a final decision by the Courts.
And if that has cost VT (Not necessarily the city) an extra £5m then it could be money well spent.
We rightfully pay the £15m to Nantes
Then in my opinion we should pursue a 2nd action against Nantes for being Vicariously Liable for the actions of the Employee, Servant or Agent in (a) allowing him to transport a CCFC asset on an unregulated flight (b) failing to make adequate checks etc etc etc
and that breach of negligence caused the following losses to CCFC which Nantes are ultimately liable for as being Vicariously liable namely:
a) £15m - The loss of a CCFC Asset
b) £80m - Potential loss of revenue
I really do believe in this 2nd claim. Let me put it in more simpler terms.
Lets assume I was giving you a lift to the stadium and on my way to the ground my negligent driving caused an accident which caused (a) your iphone and laptop to fall to the floor and break (b) you to fracture your leg and arm which (c) caused you 1 year off work.
You would want to sue me right?
The losses that sustained from that accident could be (for example)
a) £1000 - IPhone
b) £1000 - Laptop
c) £25000 - Loss of Salary
d) £8000 - Fractured Leg
Obviously I would be insured but your solcicitor would sue me (as that is the legally right thing to do in the UK) and my insurers would settle the bill.
Now we already know Nantes will be found liable (if a link can be proven against Henderson) because he has already been found guilty in a criminal court and if you are found guilty in a criminal court you are automatically negligent in a civil action.
So being found negligent it is just a matter of working out what the losses sustained will be and for CCFC that is (a) Loss of an Asset and (b) Potential Loss of Revenue (c) plus maybe some smaller losses.