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Why not pay up to lift embargo?

Wed Jan 04, 2023 12:03 am

Why not pay the sala instalments now to lift the embargo, then we can sign a few players to keep us up. Then hopefully win an insurance suing claim later down the line to claw money back. But hanging on to that decision happening and not paying it now when we might have to pay it all back in the future anyway is madness.

Re: Why not pay up to lift embargo?

Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:06 am

I am starting to think it's a lot deeper than this as firstly we had the money for ES then we didn't,
We are negotiating on payment then we're not paying.
This is smoke and mirrors stuff.

Re: Why not pay up to lift embargo?

Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:15 am

Welsh Giants wrote:Why not pay the sala instalments now to lift the embargo, then we can sign a few players to keep us up. Then hopefully win an insurance suing claim later down the line to claw money back. But hanging on to that decision happening and not paying it now when we might have to pay it all back in the future anyway is madness.


I think this is what will happen eventually.

If the club is ultimately successful against one of the insurance companies (ours, the agents or Nantes) then the interest will be pretty hefty too.

The embargo has probably changed the plans.

Re: Why not pay up to lift embargo?

Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:28 pm

JulesK wrote:I am starting to think it's a lot deeper than this as firstly we had the money for ES then we didn't,
We are negotiating on payment then we're not paying.
This is smoke and mirrors stuff.


The money has always been there, their not that daft to not put it aside. We had massive money from promotion to the premiership and parachute payment money. That money seems to have disappeared of the face of the earth weird hey.

Its simple, if they want to stay up pay the first instalment, if they want to risk going down dont pay it. But surely going down will cost the club a lot more in the long run?

Re: Why not pay up to lift embargo?

Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:13 pm

Welsh Giants wrote:
JulesK wrote:I am starting to think it's a lot deeper than this as firstly we had the money for ES then we didn't,
We are negotiating on payment then we're not paying.
This is smoke and mirrors stuff.


The money has always been there, their not that daft to not put it aside. We had massive money from promotion to the premiership and parachute payment money. That money seems to have disappeared of the face of the earth weird hey.

Its simple, if they want to stay up pay the first instalment, if they want to risk going down dont pay it. But surely going down will cost the club a lot more in the long run?


Who knows the secret of the Black Magic Box?

One minute the money was there the next its not. That's the Dalman speech strategy. When he gave that speech that it was not there it was so technically put it bedazzelled most of us.

It seems to me we did have the money, parachute parachutes, but since then its gone. So we need to find £6m from somewhere. Then it could be a waste of time as we still wont be able to lift the Embargo. Besides if we could do you think we will still avoid relegation? Everyone is talking about a new striker but even if we got 2 in we would still be favourites to go down. I just cant see the club coughing up.

Re: Why not pay up to lift embargo?

Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:10 am

Welsh Giants wrote:
JulesK wrote:I am starting to think it's a lot deeper than this as firstly we had the money for ES then we didn't,
We are negotiating on payment then we're not paying.
This is smoke and mirrors stuff.


The money has always been there, their not that daft to not put it aside. We had massive money from promotion to the premiership and parachute payment money. That money seems to have disappeared of the face of the earth weird hey.

Its simple, if they want to stay up pay the first instalment, if they want to risk going down dont pay it. But surely going down will cost the club a lot more in the long run?

Re: Why not pay up to lift embargo?

Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:13 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
Welsh Giants wrote:
JulesK wrote:I am starting to think it's a lot deeper than this as firstly we had the money for ES then we didn't,
We are negotiating on payment then we're not paying.
This is smoke and mirrors stuff.


The money has always been there, their not that daft to not put it aside. We had massive money from promotion to the premiership and parachute payment money. That money seems to have disappeared of the face of the earth weird hey.

Its simple, if they want to stay up pay the first instalment, if they want to risk going down dont pay it. But surely going down will cost the club a lot more in the long run?


Who knows the secret of the Black Magic Box?

One minute the money was there the next its not. That's the Dalman speech strategy. When he gave that speech that it was not there it was so technically put it bedazzelled most of us.

It seems to me we did have the money, parachute parachutes, but since then its gone. So we need to find £6m from somewhere. Then it could be a waste of time as we still wont be able to lift the Embargo. Besides if we could do you think we will still avoid relegation? Everyone is talking about a new striker but even if we got 2 in we would still be favourites to go down. I just cant see the club coughing up.

The money is not there. The audited accounts clearly show that. If it was it would show on the balance sheet. Any money would have to come from Tan himself.

Re: Why not pay up to lift embargo?

Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:09 am

i'm not Dalman fan, in fact the sooner he is out of our club the better, i don't want him near our club. but i cannot imagine its easy at the moment, you got fans yelling pay up, and you got the owner saying, i'm not paying. sue someone else. and he's in the middle taking the blame while no one looks at tan

Re: Why not pay up to lift embargo?

Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:01 am

simply do not have the money i feel.

Re: Why not pay up to lift embargo?

Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:06 am

Welsh Giants wrote:Why not pay the sala instalments now to lift the embargo, then we can sign a few players to keep us up. Then hopefully win an insurance suing claim later down the line to claw money back. But hanging on to that decision happening and not paying it now when we might have to pay it all back in the future anyway is madness.


Good Question / Answer ;)

Re: Why not pay up to lift embargo?

Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:13 am

Surely tan must have a plan in his own mind, what it is and the thinking behind it I couldn't even guess.
I agree with the other poster, he could pay and then try recoup afterwards, save causing us so many issues. He personally has the money to

Re: Why not pay up to lift embargo?

Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:08 pm

Perhaps the politician has siphoned it off hoping the case was dropped?
Something not right here at all.

Re: Why not pay up to lift embargo?

Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:46 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Welsh Giants wrote:
JulesK wrote:I am starting to think it's a lot deeper than this as firstly we had the money for ES then we didn't,
We are negotiating on payment then we're not paying.
This is smoke and mirrors stuff.


The money has always been there, their not that daft to not put it aside. We had massive money from promotion to the premiership and parachute payment money. That money seems to have disappeared of the face of the earth weird hey.

Its simple, if they want to stay up pay the first instalment, if they want to risk going down dont pay it. But surely going down will cost the club a lot more in the long run?


Who knows the secret of the Black Magic Box?

One minute the money was there the next its not. That's the Dalman speech strategy. When he gave that speech that it was not there it was so technically put it bedazzelled most of us.

It seems to me we did have the money, parachute parachutes, but since then its gone. So we need to find £6m from somewhere. Then it could be a waste of time as we still wont be able to lift the Embargo. Besides if we could do you think we will still avoid relegation? Everyone is talking about a new striker but even if we got 2 in we would still be favourites to go down. I just cant see the club coughing up.


Pay and then embargo still stay? Surely paying up the instalment will lift the embargo?

Re: Why not pay up to lift embargo?

Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:48 pm

JJ1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Welsh Giants wrote:
JulesK wrote:I am starting to think it's a lot deeper than this as firstly we had the money for ES then we didn't,
We are negotiating on payment then we're not paying.
This is smoke and mirrors stuff.


The money has always been there, their not that daft to not put it aside. We had massive money from promotion to the premiership and parachute payment money. That money seems to have disappeared of the face of the earth weird hey.

Its simple, if they want to stay up pay the first instalment, if they want to risk going down dont pay it. But surely going down will cost the club a lot more in the long run?


Who knows the secret of the Black Magic Box?

One minute the money was there the next its not. That's the Dalman speech strategy. When he gave that speech that it was not there it was so technically put it bedazzelled most of us.

It seems to me we did have the money, parachute parachutes, but since then its gone. So we need to find £6m from somewhere. Then it could be a waste of time as we still wont be able to lift the Embargo. Besides if we could do you think we will still avoid relegation? Everyone is talking about a new striker but even if we got 2 in we would still be favourites to go down. I just cant see the club coughing up.

The money is not there. The audited accounts clearly show that. If it was it would show on the balance sheet. Any money would have to come from Tan himself.


The money should be there with all the parachute payment money. Something isnt right f**k knows where all that money has gone because we have invested hardly f**k all since relegation from the prem and didnt overspend when we went up either