How is our predicament going to change?

For me, I can't see any way we are going to address the gaping holes that are appearing in both our club and our team.

We can sign nobody, getting rid of the manager is futile, as who of any note would want to join the circus that we are.

Calling youngsters back who cant even get into a bottom third league two side, and today, how on earth can Hudson justify, injury apart, taking off our best striker with experience, and replacing him with an inexperienced kid who's goal ratio is just appalling, shows our last remaining and pointless options.

We have nothing and nobody who can stop the rot, the slide.

This has been coming, for three years, and nobody has done anything about it, not least Mr Tan. League one now calls, abd Im afraid that if The Dictator hangs on, and he undoubtedly will, we will very soon be back where we were in the mid 90's.

The club has been left to rot, and fans let down by a regime determined to kill the club.

Lets go back a few seasons.

The departure of Warnock saw Neil Harris come in. The squad he had was good enough to remain in the Championship. So good it got us too a play off. Now forward to the next season and we brought in Moore and Wilson. Harris with a stronger squad made a mess of it, was shown the door and was replaced my MaCarthy who directed us away from a relegation place. Going into the next season we lost Harris, Moore became disinterested and our squad was aging. We went on a bad run and MM was sacked. The bottom line at this stage was our squad was the worse it had been for many a season.

So Morison takes over, avoids the drop and ditches most of the squad. He brings in what we have now and the squad is no better. Thing is we are stuck with these players and to make matters worse we have this Embargo to deal with. So you ask how is our predicament going to change? With a lot of difficulty to overcome.

Some say we need an experienced manager. That's what most of us think, perhaps the best option but with such a weak squad what experience manager would want to take this on? While we are on this I do not think Warnock is the answer although he might be the best we can get.

Some say bring in quality players. Well they are not out there and January is a difficult time.

The bottom line here is we are in this position because of the board. For the last 2 seasons they have managed to find a solution. However, I feel this time its not going to be third time lucky.

A long time ago i was into horse racing and a good punter friend told me " a bad jockey can stop a good horse from winning, but a good jockey can't make a poor horse win"

Allsop, Kipre, NG, Romeo, O'Dowda, Ralls, Wintle, Romonhota, Robinson are proven Championship players. Sawyers was, but his legs have gone. So out of a squad of 22 its 9 who are the right level with Colwill and Davies as hopefuls. That is what a L1 playoff candidate team would have.

This is bigger than the manager, its the squad.

Tan and the board need to go in order to rebuild the whole club.
Tan did wonders for getting us into the premier league twice with the help of Malky and Warnock but now his heart is not with this club. And we need a new identity going forwards. We get a new owner and board in then fans can come together and things would start to look up. At this current situation the only way Tan and the board go is if we go to league 1. And Tan is willing to take the risk.

Tan and the board need to go in order to rebuild the whole club.
Tan did wonders for getting us into the premier league twice with the help of Malky and Warnock but now his heart is not with this club. And we need a new identity going forwards. We get a new owner and board in then fans can come together and things would start to look up. At this current situation the only way Tan and the board go is if we go to league 1. And Tan is willing to take the risk.

Let’s not forget Tan hit the self destruct button in that December by sacking MM. We were averaging a point a game , with on paper , the easier home games to come post Xmas . The appointment of Ole was a disaster.

Our inability to score goals / improve in that part of the pitch could well be our downfall this year however a real relegation fight has been on the cards for a few seasons now with Manager selection and squad changes in my view.

Sorry to disappoint you all but Mr Tan is not going to be throwing any money at this or any other manager after being ripped off in the transfer market by some of his ex managers.
Hudson has lost dressing room so he and his jobs for mates might as well go so personally where we are I'd ask SM to take us to end of season with perhaps SB.
NW will not be showing his face around here again so forget him ffs.

Tan and the board need to go in order to rebuild the whole club.
Tan did wonders for getting us into the premier league twice with the help of Malky and Warnock but now his heart is not with this club. And we need a new identity going forwards. We get a new owner and board in then fans can come together and things would start to look up. At this current situation the only way Tan and the board go is if we go to league 1. And Tan is willing to take the risk.

Let’s not forget Tan hit the self destruct button in that December by sacking MM. We were averaging a point a game , with on paper , the easier home games to come post Xmas . The appointment of Ole was a disaster.

Our inability to score goals / improve in that part of the pitch could well be our downfall this year however a real relegation fight has been on the cards for a few seasons now with Manager selection and squad changes in my view.

End of the day the only way to improve is cash, and Tan simply dont want to spend it on anything not Sala and not the club he owns. And if we go down then hopefully Tan will say his goodbyes to the club and go. Sooner he goes the better.

Going smash your piggyback are you?

Tan and the board need to go in order to rebuild the whole club.
Tan did wonders for getting us into the premier league twice with the help of Malky and Warnock but now his heart is not with this club. And we need a new identity going forwards. We get a new owner and board in then fans can come together and things would start to look up. At this current situation the only way Tan and the board go is if we go to league 1. And Tan is willing to take the risk.

Let’s not forget Tan hit the self destruct button in that December by sacking MM. We were averaging a point a game , with on paper , the easier home games to come post Xmas . The appointment of Ole was a disaster.

Our inability to score goals / improve in that part of the pitch could well be our downfall this year however a real relegation fight has been on the cards for a few seasons now with Manager selection and squad changes in my view.

End of the day the only way to improve is cash, and Tan simply dont want to spend it on anything not Sala and not the club he owns. And if we go down then hopefully Tan will say his goodbyes to the club and go. Sooner he goes the better.

Sam, why do you believe that Tan would sell up in L1?

A loss is a loss and we are almost set up to be a L1 club. Perhaps he believes a season in L1 would be a great reset and allow the very young squad to grow ?

We do not know his mindset, but he must have calculated what L1 meant as we were always going to be closer to that than the divsion thats made him huge losses, the premier league.

Personally, in my opinion this squad is not League One level. Our better players will go, or return to parent clubs, and Dalmans/Glen Williams' so called clutch of wonder kids of yester year are failing to impress at league 2 or lower.

Only my opinion as I say, but without strengthening, which we cant, or wouldn't irrespective of an embargo, we are mid to lower League One at best.

A reset is required as mentioned by a number, but certainly not one overseen by the current regime

For me, I can't see any way we are going to address the gaping holes that are appearing in both our club and our team.

We can sign nobody, getting rid of the manager is futile, as who of any note would want to join the circus that we are.

Calling youngsters back who cant even get into a bottom third league two side, and today, how on earth can Hudson justify, injury apart, taking off our best striker with experience, and replacing him with an inexperienced kid who's goal ratio is just appalling, shows our last remaining and pointless options.

We have nothing and nobody who can stop the rot, the slide.

This has been coming, for three years, and nobody has done anything about it, not least Mr Tan. League one now calls, abd Im afraid that if The Dictator hangs on, and he undoubtedly will, we will very soon be back where we were in the mid 90's.

The club has been left to rot, and fans let down by a regime determined to kill the club.

Callum Robinson did nothing yesterday really, and he was coming back from a knock. Didn't like seeing him front the manager when he isn't even pulling up trees. Delusional.

We were awful yesterday.
Blackburn - regarded as a footballing side - recognised the poor pitch would hold up balls over the top and targeted our high line whilst removing short passes getting clagged up at the back. We didn't seem to take it into account or learn from it.
Our only concession to poor surface was we ended up putting Kipre as a battering ram at the end. But this gets me thinking.....
What about bring Mozza or McGuinness back in defence and pushing Kipre into a double pivot with Wintle? They are probably our most composed and best passers of the ball, and it would add some additional leadership to the team.

A long time ago i was into horse racing and a good punter friend told me " a bad jockey can stop a good horse from winning, but a good jockey can't make a poor horse win"

Allsop, Kipre, NG, Romeo, O'Dowda, Ralls, Wintle, Romonhota, Robinson are proven Championship players. Sawyers was, but his legs have gone. So out of a squad of 22 its 9 who are the right level with Colwill and Davies as hopefuls. That is what a L1 playoff candidate team would have.

This is bigger than the manager, its the squad.

Reading through this thread and I particularly liked this post probably because of the old horse racing analogy. (I’m a big enough fool to still like putting SMALL bets on horses). But remeber we haven’t got to win the race, just finiah among the also rans…. not : bluebird: tailed off at the back!
Also I agree with nearly all of what you say eg. I agree with your list of players but I also think that Davies is at least good enough and so is Ojo ( and maybe one or 2 others). However, I don’t agree with the conclusion. For me, we are a good target man short of a good team.
The managers job is about getting the best out of the players he has at his disposal. Maybe a bit more of a chef than a jockey. He has the squad (the ingredients) and he needs to make something out of it! Imho he needs some height and physical presence in the front third. A couple of games ago we had Etete ypfront and he was improving and we looked a lot better. He should be playing.(Or else find a physical type centre forward on loan- easier said than done). I don’t think SM should have been sacked. We have gone backwards since. I feel sorry for Hudson, but I think we need an experienced (chef) manager to get the right balanve in the team and to serve up something worth watching!

We were awful yesterday.
Blackburn - regarded as a footballing side - recognised the poor pitch would hold up balls over the top and targeted our high line whilst removing short passes getting clagged up at the back. We didn't seem to take it into account or learn from it.
Our only concession to poor surface was we ended up putting Kipre as a battering ram at the end. But this gets me thinking.....
What about bring Mozza or McGuinness back in defence and pushing Kipre into a double pivot with Wintle? They are probably our most composed and best passers of the ball, and it would add some additional leadership to the team.

We were so awful that we only lost one nil to a freak deflected goal and Blackburn couldn't carve us open

We were awful yesterday.
Blackburn - regarded as a footballing side - recognised the poor pitch would hold up balls over the top and targeted our high line whilst removing short passes getting clagged up at the back. We didn't seem to take it into account or learn from it.
Our only concession to poor surface was we ended up putting Kipre as a battering ram at the end. But this gets me thinking.....
What about bring Mozza or McGuinness back in defence and pushing Kipre into a double pivot with Wintle? They are probably our most composed and best passers of the ball, and it would add some additional leadership to the team.

We were so awful that we only lost one nil to a freak deflected goal and Blackburn couldn't carve us open

That’s a fact that we only lost 1-0 to a deflected goal but it’s also a fact that we were awful with virtually zero shots on target and woeful finishing …. Again

We were awful yesterday.
Blackburn - regarded as a footballing side - recognised the poor pitch would hold up balls over the top and targeted our high line whilst removing short passes getting clagged up at the back. We didn't seem to take it into account or learn from it.
Our only concession to poor surface was we ended up putting Kipre as a battering ram at the end. But this gets me thinking.....
What about bring Mozza or McGuinness back in defence and pushing Kipre into a double pivot with Wintle? They are probably our most composed and best passers of the ball, and it would add some additional leadership to the team.

We were so awful that we only lost one nil to a freak deflected goal and Blackburn couldn't carve us open

That’s a fact that we only lost 1-0 to a deflected goal but it’s also a fact that we were awful with virtually zero shots on target and woeful finishing …. Again

I thought we had the better chances on the break in 1st half, Robinson's shot should have been squared to Harris, wintles ball to o'dowda was little too heavy and then there was gavin whyte, through on goal but bad 1st touch. Harris also had a couple of chances.
All they had was a long ball

We were awful yesterday.
Blackburn - regarded as a footballing side - recognised the poor pitch would hold up balls over the top and targeted our high line whilst removing short passes getting clagged up at the back. We didn't seem to take it into account or learn from it.
Our only concession to poor surface was we ended up putting Kipre as a battering ram at the end. But this gets me thinking.....
What about bring Mozza or McGuinness back in defence and pushing Kipre into a double pivot with Wintle? They are probably our most composed and best passers of the ball, and it would add some additional leadership to the team.

We were so awful that we only lost one nil to a freak deflected goal and Blackburn couldn't carve us open

That’s a fact that we only lost 1-0 to a deflected goal but it’s also a fact that we were awful with virtually zero shots on target and woeful finishing …. Again

I thought we had the better chances on the break in 1st half, Robinson's shot should have been squared to Harris, wintles ball to o'dowda was little too heavy and then there was gavin whyte, through on goal but bad 1st touch. Harris also had a couple of chances.
All they had was a long ball

Don't forget Tom Sang chance where he took an age to kick it.

We were awful yesterday.
Blackburn - regarded as a footballing side - recognised the poor pitch would hold up balls over the top and targeted our high line whilst removing short passes getting clagged up at the back. We didn't seem to take it into account or learn from it.
Our only concession to poor surface was we ended up putting Kipre as a battering ram at the end. But this gets me thinking.....
What about bring Mozza or McGuinness back in defence and pushing Kipre into a double pivot with Wintle? They are probably our most composed and best passers of the ball, and it would add some additional leadership to the team.

We were so awful that we only lost one nil to a freak deflected goal and Blackburn couldn't carve us open

That’s a fact that we only lost 1-0 to a deflected goal but it’s also a fact that we were awful with virtually zero shots on target and woeful finishing …. Again

100% with you there, mate

The irony is that the mood on here would have been different with a draw and completely different with a win. It's such fine margins...

But the only consistency we have right now is being woeful and profligate. All the 'pretty' play in the side means nothing, if we continue like this...

I really think the players have no belief in themselves and possibly the system anymore, we should have scored from at least one of the chances mentioned above. Then it's a whole different game. How Blackburn are 3rd I have no idea, they ain't that great and not a great deal between us.
Got to love the championship

We were awful yesterday.
Blackburn - regarded as a footballing side - recognised the poor pitch would hold up balls over the top and targeted our high line whilst removing short passes getting clagged up at the back. We didn't seem to take it into account or learn from it.
Our only concession to poor surface was we ended up putting Kipre as a battering ram at the end. But this gets me thinking.....
What about bring Mozza or McGuinness back in defence and pushing Kipre into a double pivot with Wintle? They are probably our most composed and best passers of the ball, and it would add some additional leadership to the team.

We were so awful that we only lost one nil to a freak deflected goal and Blackburn couldn't carve us open

That’s a fact that we only lost 1-0 to a deflected goal but it’s also a fact that we were awful with virtually zero shots on target and woeful finishing …. Again

I agree, we are awfully lacking ambition and direction in the final third. We are slowly building decent defensive foundations. I think people are over reacting to the result and losing a little perspective. It's not time to panic just yet imo

I thought you had stopped supporting us?

You are fully aware that is not what I said.

We were awful yesterday.
Blackburn - regarded as a footballing side - recognised the poor pitch would hold up balls over the top and targeted our high line whilst removing short passes getting clagged up at the back. We didn't seem to take it into account or learn from it.
Our only concession to poor surface was we ended up putting Kipre as a battering ram at the end. But this gets me thinking.....
What about bring Mozza or McGuinness back in defence and pushing Kipre into a double pivot with Wintle? They are probably our most composed and best passers of the ball, and it would add some additional leadership to the team.

We were so awful that we only lost one nil to a freak deflected goal and Blackburn couldn't carve us open

Agree we weren't awefull in general play , we were awefull up front, I said in another topic , we are in every game and when we do lose its by the odd goal , if we scored just one or two chances that we created as we should be ;we would be in the top 6 , strikers are a must in the loan window

You are fully aware that is not what I said.

Pretty much was. While Tan is owner you said.

Like you’re leaving off this message board.

Lasted a short time.

You are fully aware that is not what I said.

Pretty much was. While Tan is owner you said.

Like you’re leaving off this message board.

Lasted a short time.

Neil, I asked him to reconsider and he did

It's all about opinions, as we know all too well. I've never seen Johnny offend or abuse any member on here and he is a passionate Bluebird to boot...

Good to see you back posting, too!

You are fully aware that is not what I said.

Pretty much was. While Tan is owner you said.

Like you’re leaving off this message board.

Lasted a short time.

Neil, I asked him to reconsider and he did

It's all about opinions, as we know all too well. I've never seen Johnny offend or abuse any member on here and he is a passionate Bluebird to boot...

Good to see you back posting, too!

My departure wasn’t announced

I’m sure he’s a lovely bloke. I can’t see how he’s a supporter though. He doesn’t support much.

You are fully aware that is not what I said.

Pretty much was. While Tan is owner you said.

Like you’re leaving off this message board.

Lasted a short time.

Neil, I asked him to reconsider and he did

It's all about opinions, as we know all too well. I've never seen Johnny offend or abuse any member on here and he is a passionate Bluebird to boot...

Good to see you back posting, too!

Thanks Chris

I may not be everyones cup of tea, but ill say my piece and let others say theirs. A little respect is all that is asked.

These next 6 months are vital for our club and there are a lot of people having their say. Its probably the most importabt time since I've been following the club.

Im making my stand and sticking to it. Im not giving the Berjaya group another penny of my hard earned money until Tan goes.

That does not mean I am not following/supporting the club